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8-Bit Scholar
Jan 23, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

extra stout posted:

i actually do kill my own meat and cant decide if i should call you an idiot bitch or commend you for at least acknowledging societies short comings

i also
-do my own woodworking
-forage my own berries
-suck my own cock

Sir, I'd like to shake your hand.

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Knitting Beetles
Feb 4, 2006

Fallen Rib
it would be a good idea OP

:smug: <- imagine those small round glasses on this

extra stout
Feb 24, 2005

ISILDUR's ERR

8-Bit Scholar posted:

Sir, I'd like to shake your hand.

alright im open to this friendship, have you tried fishing or hunting or are you more of a philosopher with the hands of an unsoiled fancy boy

there's actually a good thread in DIY for woodworking though it's mostly big machine stuff and not much bushcraft stuff or harvested wood

and a thread about mushroom foraging in the take a hike! forum

if we work together....goons can relearn the skills of a respectable society

8-Bit Scholar
Jan 23, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

extra stout posted:

alright im open to this friendship, have you tried fishing or hunting or are you more of a philosopher with the hands of an unsoiled fancy boy

there's actually a good thread in DIY for woodworking though it's mostly big machine stuff and not much bushcraft stuff or harvested wood

and a thread about mushroom foraging in the take a hike! forum

if we work together....goons can relearn the skills of a respectable society

Well, I work in newspapers, does that qualify? It's quite definitely a craft!

Riotgrrill
Sep 3, 2004

ahem, i can disassemble ops arguments with one word.

anime.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Riotgrrill posted:

ahem, i can disassemble ops arguments with one word.

anime.

genghis khan did nothing wrong

Mr. Unlucky
Nov 1, 2006

by R. Guyovich

8-Bit Scholar posted:

Ghengis Khan nearly destroyed the world under the banner of a singular idea: the civilized life was a life of weakness and sloth.

The greatest empires of his day crumbled before the force of this savage ideology.

Now, a thousand plus years on, we sit on the Internet. We drive cars. We no longer kill our own meat, we no longer grow our own crop.

Are we truly better, or is civilization weakening the human race?

Discuss respectfully.

if gengis khan had his way we'd all be eating goat testicles in loving yurts yeah civilization is a good thing you loving moron you answered your question with the first line

fabergay egg
Mar 1, 2012

it's not a rhetorical question, for politely saying 'you are an idiot, you don't know what you are talking about'


Actually I'm p sure Mr Khan started invading the world specifically to get out of the shitpile that is Mongolia

1st_Panzer_Div.
May 11, 2005
Grimey Drawer
I love civilization and thinking about all the ways it could have formed (because I love civ 5 and want to apply it to the real world).

Xenothral
Aug 1, 2013

No one's left... Everything's gone...! Zebes is burning!

I think civilization is pretty okay. It could do better though.

drunk dog
Apr 6, 2014

Resident Millennial

Xenothral posted:

I think civilization is pretty okay. It could do better though.

yea hellfire would be nice

8-Bit Scholar
Jan 23, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Xenothral posted:

I think civilization is pretty okay. It could do better though.

Agreed, legalize weed and whores.

Xenothral
Aug 1, 2013

No one's left... Everything's gone...! Zebes is burning!

Both of those sound like pretty decent ideas

buglord
Jul 31, 2010

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!

Buglord
On one hand, people might be happier if civilization vanished. You get those pastoralist/peasant types in third world countries that learn to be happy with life, while some middle class dude tries filling his worthless life with retail therapy. Consumerism has taught people to not be happy unless they get the next newest thing. There would probably be less religious wars. People would probably fall back to local animist religions which aren't known for trying to convert the entire world. Social stratification would likely dissolve right off the bat. Kind of hard to be racist/classist/sexist against other people in your band, especially with the threat of exile - a virtual death sentence out in the wild.

Later down the line, when a few generations pass and people re-learn wilderness survival, there would probably be less starvation in general. (I could imagine a gigantic starvation based die-off initially though. The population only got this big because of agriculture, which built civilization. If civilization and thus agriculture fails, zillions would go hungry. So I guess our population size would have to drop a very large amount in order to get that good ol' sustenance based commune lifestyle.) Once people learn how to live off the land and adopt generalist foraging skills, I can imagine mass hunger being a thing of the past.

Diabetes, cavities and cancer would probably go away too since we'd revert to wide-spectrum foraging and eat way healthier than we have in a long time.

But that health wouldn't really matter because you'd probably die from some pathogens in a stream. Or get an axe to the back of the skull, or die by a lion, or sprain your ankle in a ditch and starve to death.

:shrug:

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy
No, because you shitpost on GBS.

Blurry Gray Thing
Jun 3, 2009

Best Giraffe posted:

Actually I'm p sure Mr Khan started invading the world specifically to get out of the shitpile that is Mongolia

I think OP's confusing Genghis Khan with Attila the Hun.

Hey, OP, you sure you mean Genghis Khan, the guy responsible for history's biggest land-spanning Empire? You sure you don't mean Attila the Hun, the Scourge of God, destroyer of empires? That'd make a bit more sense. I mean you'd still be wrong, Attila wanted to marry a Roman lady and also get half the western Empire, he wasn't some freeman-on-the-steppes who didn't believe in cities.

naem
May 29, 2011

Blurry Gray Thing posted:

Civilized stabbing is better than regular stabbing.

It's mostly all just different types of hats

the fart question
Mar 21, 2007

College Slice
without civilization this would not exist:

drunk dog
Apr 6, 2014

Resident Millennial

Crowsbeak posted:

No, because you shitpost on GBS.


edit; actually literally this

Hogge Wild
Aug 21, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Pillbug
civilization isn't a good thing because it made this thread possible

drunk dog
Apr 6, 2014

Resident Millennial

Hogge Wild posted:

civilization isn't a good thing because it made this thread possible

this but you

Have Blue
Mar 27, 2013


Panther Like a Panther
No humanity was unironically better off as hunter gathers which is why I seek to emulate those idyllic times by rooting through garbage for half chewed pizza crusts and grubs.

eSports Chaebol
Feb 22, 2005

Yeah, actually, gamers in the house forever,

Have Blue posted:

No humanity was unironically better off as hunter gathers which is why I seek to emulate those idyllic times by rooting through garbage for half chewed pizza crusts and grubs.

civilization was literally worse than hunting and gathering was until like, 1950 pretty much. but now it's better. lol sorry everyone c. 4000 BC-1950 AD. thanks though, couldnt have a big TV without ya!

a whole buncha crows
May 8, 2003

WHEN WE DON'T KNOW WHO TO HATE, WE HATE OURSELVES.-SA USER NATION (AKA ME!)
The best civilizations are Thise who break off and go they own way

Have Blue
Mar 27, 2013


Panther Like a Panther

Nation posted:

The best civilizations are Thise who break off and go they own way

We are a civilization of one who is very interested in "going our own way". Would you have an informational brochure or something like that by chance?

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!
idk about you op but i quite like Civilization V

its a p good game

a whole buncha crows
May 8, 2003

WHEN WE DON'T KNOW WHO TO HATE, WE HATE OURSELVES.-SA USER NATION (AKA ME!)

Have Blue posted:

We are a civilization of one who is very interested in "going our own way". Would you have an informational brochure or something like that by chance?

Sure let me break one off for you

Mariana Horchata
Jun 30, 2008

College Slice

ANIME IS BLOOD posted:

throw whatever Jared Diamond book you're reading in the trash, OP, he's a hack

he went to jared

wow what poo poo first name that is, i guess i never thought about that before buts its true

Gasbraai
Oct 25, 2010

Lictor my Dictor
Whatever your feelings towards civilisation, try and enjoy this last year of it, after this year the trumpocalypse will descend and the straw haired god-emperor of mankind will reign in blood and fire for a thousand years.

Sialia
Feb 12, 2016

Lunixnerd posted:

Whatever your feelings towards civilisation, try and enjoy this last year of it, after this year the trumpocalypse will descend and the straw haired god-emperor of mankind will reign in blood and fire for a thousand years.

I haven't seen him called the antichrist yet which must mean HE IS THE ANTICHRIST

The Dennis System
Aug 4, 2014

Nothing in Jurassic World is natural, we have always filled gaps in the genome with the DNA of other animals. And if the genetic code was pure, many of them would look quite different. But you didn't ask for reality, you asked for more teeth.
Video games. 'Nuff said.

Xenothral
Aug 1, 2013

No one's left... Everything's gone...! Zebes is burning!

The Dennis System posted:

Video games. 'Nuff said.

Actually, yeah.

criscodisco
Feb 18, 2004

do it
I watch a lot of Green Acres, where they moved from a Manhattan penthouse to a farm where they grow their own food without electricity or running water, and I think to myself "you know, I think I could do this".

Have Blue
Mar 27, 2013


Panther Like a Panther

criscodisco posted:

I watch a lot of Green Acres, where they moved from a Manhattan penthouse to a farm where they grow their own food without electricity or running water, and I think to myself "you know, I think I could do this".

*Bzzt* agriculture is the basis of civilisation. Garb yourself in tattered furs and shake something pointy at a mammoth or go back to your hoity toity "farm".

criscodisco
Feb 18, 2004

do it

Have Blue posted:

*Bzzt* agriculture is the basis of civilisation. Garb yourself in tattered furs and shake something pointy at a mammoth or go back to your hoity toity "farm".

Yeah but their farm never produced more than enough to feed Oliver and Lisa and occasionally their farmhand Eb.

Happy Bear Suit
Jul 21, 2004

is good because instead of doing poo poo like harvesting our own crops or foraging for berries and poo poo we instead can focus all our time and energy on the things that matter, like scientific research on boner pills and virtual reality anime body pillows

in conclusion:

Mr. Unlucky posted:

if gengis khan had his way we'd all be eating goat testicles in loving yurts yeah civilization is a good thing you loving moron you answered your question with the first line

Jacada
Aug 1, 2009

the height of civilization was the roman republic, ever since that ended we´ve just been on one big slide downhill. shameful.

Funky See Funky Do
Aug 20, 2013
STILL TRYING HARD

Mr. Unlucky posted:

if gengis khan had his way we'd all be eating goat testicles in loving yurts yeah civilization is a good thing you loving moron you answered your question with the first line

For all you know goats testicles are delicious and loving in a yurt with the many wives you just plain stole sounds awesome.

Split Pea Superman
Dec 16, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

Blurry Gray Thing posted:

As a misanthrope that cannot be in the presence of another human without experiencing crippling insecurity I say I'd do even worse in a world without computers and videogames and fast food and 24 hour grocery stores.

Haha loser! You see I have this thing called autism, and from what i've read on the internet it means I'd be a badass alpha survivalist.

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RideTheSpiral
Sep 18, 2005
College Slice

extra stout posted:

i actually do kill my own meat and cant decide if i should call you an idiot bitch or commend you for at least acknowledging societies short comings

i also
-do my own woodworking
-forage my own berries
-suck my own cock


i bet you do your own blcksmithing too you giant nerd idiot

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