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fool of sound posted:I'd roll for the three and announce them to the thread, same with lesser ties. everyone self-vote, that way there's no possible way scum could influence the outcome of this
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any efforts to consolidate a vote behind anyone is inherently scummy
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Jan 26, 2024 22:17
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Sorry if it’s unclear but each person still only has one vote on Day 0. The top three are taken, but you may only choose one.
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Jan 26, 2024 22:19
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmquote:On Night 0, each Scum player may ##Select [Godfather/Ninja/Robbin’ Hood], becoming that Role for the remainder of the game. Each of these options may only be selected once. Scum players who become Masonic Blind Tinkers may not Select another role. Scum players who Select a role may still receive a Gift. I'd much rather make definite choices about who to elect and try to read what happens to the gamestate afterwards than leave this entirely to chance, given that scum don't want to be selected for this.
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Jan 26, 2024 22:20
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This is also a prime opportunity to develop reads on people. A first day that doesn't require killing anybody to get information. Can't think of a good reason to pass that up.
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Jan 26, 2024 22:23
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I will ##vote cube for the tinker thing because cube likes spreadsheets and keeping track of things. It's a no brainer.
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Jan 26, 2024 22:25
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shwinnebego posted:everyone self-vote, that way there's no possible way scum could influence the outcome of this oh shoot this is a good idea, i should have done that
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Jan 26, 2024 22:26
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Ignatius M. Meen posted:hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm wait what scum don't want to have a say in who gets the gifts? i would think scum absolutely want to be the tinkers?
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Jan 26, 2024 22:27
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Good news everyone I'm town 
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yuming posted:Good news everyone I'm town
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shwinnebego posted:wait what I don't believe scum would give up the right to be godfathers, ninjas, or role thieves in order to be able to empower town, no.
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Jan 26, 2024 22:29
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Ignatius M. Meen posted:I don't believe scum would give up the right to be godfathers, ninjas, or role thieves in order to be able to empower town, no. oh, right so if scum get all three scum roles, aka no scum tinkers, then they can always just steal/copy the tinker-given roles and/or hope town gives them tinker-given roles themselves
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well that does complicate my initial view of this
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Ignatius M. Meen posted:I don't believe scum would give up the right to be godfathers, ninjas, or role thieves in order to be able to empower town, no. I would argue that scum would absolutely want some control in who gets what and at the very least have the knowledge of who is getting what.
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i mean i guess by that logic though it doesn't matter who we elect as tinker? it's a blessing for town and a curse for scum in Iggy's assessment, so like whatever?
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Jan 26, 2024 22:31
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It is absolutely, without any doubt in my mind, too early to pocket anybody. Therefore there's no 'safe' town player to give roles to. So why do that instead of minimize the chance that scum are picked?
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Jan 26, 2024 22:31
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CapitalistPig posted:I would argue that scum would absolutely want some control in who gets what and at the very least have the knowledge of who is getting what. yeah ok this was my initial thought, and especially w the "knowing who gets what" bit it's more compelling than iggy's idea iggy's probably scum
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Jan 26, 2024 22:32
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Ignatius M. Meen posted:It is absolutely, without any doubt in my mind, too early to pocket anybody. Therefore there's no 'safe' town player to give roles to. So why do that instead of minimize the chance that scum are picked? to minimize the chance that scum is picked, we each self-vote and leave it to chance
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CapitalistPig posted:I would argue that scum would absolutely want some control in who gets what and at the very least have the knowledge of who is getting what. One tinker, sure. All of them being tinkers would be a death wish, since they'll have to dodge all the power roles around afterwards with no way to work around it.
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shwinnebego posted:yeah ok this was my initial thought, and especially w the "knowing who gets what" bit it's more compelling than iggy's idea Well, i mean, i can see where iggy is coming from too and think it's probably a bit of a leap jump to scum from that.
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however d0 shakes out i am pretty sure i wanna flip iggy asap
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Ignatius M. Meen posted:One tinker, sure. All of them being tinkers would be a death wish, since they'll have to dodge all the power roles around afterwards with no way to work around it. 100% they wouldn't want them all to be one. But for sure they will be trying to get one in.
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shwinnebego posted:to minimize the chance that scum is picked, we each self-vote and leave it to chance yes, great. we'll have a godfather who can dodge the cop, a ninja who can dodge the watch, and a scum thief who can nab the town roles for themselves when they reveal who they are. Or we could actually say who we'd trust in a vacuum instead of make the Vigs game mistake and work from there.
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I think best case for scum is they get one teammate into the masonry so they can get the info there. They absolutely want the scum-specific roles with all of the items in play. Hmm, okay I got it then. If you DON'T want to be a mason please explain why 
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CapitalistPig posted:100% they wouldn't want them all to be one. But for sure they will be trying to get one in. I could see them betting on lucking into one person ending up as such with the self-vote plan.
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Ignatius M. Meen posted:yes, great. we'll have a godfather who can dodge the cop, a ninja who can dodge the watch, and a scum thief who can nab the town roles for themselves when they reveal who they are. Or we could actually say who we'd trust in a vacuum instead of make the Vigs game mistake and work from there. If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball. Is there a D0 lurker thing or what?
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Jan 26, 2024 22:37
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Ignatius M. Meen posted:I could see them betting on lucking into one person ending up as such with the self-vote plan. yeah agreed, i have my eye on shwinn The self vote plan combined with the instant leap on you for questioning that plan felt weird.
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I'll go first (jk I do want to be a mason) but a reason for me NOT to be a mason is that I have limited time to post and engage with the masonry. I am mostly available after 8PM CST and over lunch. Tell us! Why SHOULDN'T YOU be a mason.
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yuming posted:I'll go first (jk I do want to be a mason) but a reason for me NOT to be a mason is that I have limited time to post and engage with the masonry. Town never self-vote. Does the masonry actually persist this game the whole time? Last time the two players couldn't interact with one another at all.
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yuming posted:Tell us! Why SHOULDN'T YOU be a mason. Because i do not want to have to think too hard about stuff. My brain hurts.
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ooo I've got it-- toalpaz and I should be masons together so we can become BFFs 
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Yes the masonry endures the entire game.
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CubicalSucrose posted:If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball. I'm feeling fired up with the town roll and the opportunity to develop reads right away without having to kill at random player to make it happen. So yeah, I'm gonna be a bit suspicious and posty when tossing that in the garbage is proposed.
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CapitalistPig posted:Because i do not want to have to think too hard about stuff. Anyways I have to get back to work and then I am out and about for the afternoon~ ttyl friends
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yuming posted:I'll go first (jk I do want to be a mason) but a reason for me NOT to be a mason is that I have limited time to post and engage with the masonry. I'm town and it'd mean scum would be able to pick a power role for themselves. Also dunno if I'd be the best role picker necessarily. Otherwise, hell yeah, I love being masons, and it'd be rad to be a big part of the game mech.
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We just kill all the tinkers first, yeah? There will almost definitely be a scum there, and they're forced VT so least impactful roles to lose.
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CubicalSucrose posted:We just kill all the tinkers first, yeah? There will almost definitely be a scum there, and they're forced VT so least impactful roles to lose. Totally on board with this idea since they'll give all the roles away immediately and if nobody gets better info from their roles overnight, then they'll be the best place to start with this particular method.
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For me for tinker please. I'm the best town player as you all know
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People should still use their heads on who goes first, of course, but that can be worked out more later.
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