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Gin Soaked Ape posted:also the first thing we did in iraq after overthrowing the government was to totally dismantle and privatize any civil services rather than try to use them to restore the country to any kind of functioning order because the people in charge of rebuilding were free market ideologues
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permabanned posted:That's all bullshit. Eve of the war (and this is after nearly ten years of sanctions), close to 85% literacy rate. Says the UN, not the Iraqi government. They're not a bunch of camel-loving Bedouin. Here is a thing UNESCO did which also amounts to "we hosed up their education system but people can still read, and their teachers are trying if they're not fleeing or dying". And if you think any 1930s economy compares to any 2000s economy, that is lol. jBrereton fucked around with this message at 15:09 on Jun 7, 2014 |
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FreudianSlippers posted:A lot of the insurgents are dudes who would've been executed as enemies of the state in Saddam's day. lmbo yeah them drat uppity sunnis were always getting under saddam's skin
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jBrereton posted:http://unstats.un.org/unsd/mdg/SeriesDetail.aspx?srid=656 don't bother using logic on him. he's a soldier who helped destroy that civilization
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butplug accident posted:don't bother using logic on him. he's a soldier who helped destroy that civilization
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im from the usa and i say we kill them all!
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butplug accident posted:don't bother using logic on him. he's a soldier who helped destroy that civilization Truly? That's interesting... Now, tell me more about it. jBrereton posted:http://unstats.un.org/unsd/mdg/SeriesDetail.aspx?srid=656 That's interesting, but unfortunately not relevant - the Iraq economy is and was based on imports, all the while the tribalism, cultural sense of entitlement and religion problem still stand. Japan attained 100% basic literacy rates before 1904.
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Just give all of the Middle East to the Kurds.
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Sancho posted:sadam owned he was actually very good at keeping the peace and these assholes in check as his people had no problem resorting to brutal violence and torture, a language these people understand very well
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butplug accident posted:that's what you have to tell yourselves to relieve the guilt of your gently caress ups goddamn you're on a roll here.
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Chris Awful posted:How did the U.S. do so well in Japan with setting up a new government and yet so bad in Iraq? Does the U.S. need to drop some MOABs on a few highly populated cities to crush the will of the terrorist? perhaps the stone age people of iraq are a little different?
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baw posted:
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good insult
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butplug accident posted:don't bother using logic on him. he's a soldier who helped destroy that civilization "civilization" lol
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baw posted:good insult thanks
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Lord Tywin posted:Just give all of the Middle East to the Kurds.
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Gin Soaked Ape posted:also the first thing we did in iraq after overthrowing the government was to totally dismantle and privatize any civil services rather than try to use them to restore the country to any kind of functioning order because the people in charge of rebuilding were free market ideologues Yeah, everything about the way the U.S. handled the occupation was pretty much a dismal failure. The invasion force was actually significantly smaller than the one deployed in the Gulf War, which meant they were unable to secure the military stocks of the old state and a lot of it ended up with militants. All members of the Baath party were banned from government and since membership in the party was a requirement for participation in government and civil services under Hussayn, there was literally no skilled natives allowed to run things. The worst thing they did was disbanding the entire Iraqi military, which left thousands of trained and armed men unemployed and embittered. Paul Bremmer, the head of state of the occupation government was all sorts of incompetent; if I remember right, he didn't even speak Arabic. His incompetence and sheltered style of rule condemned hundreds of thousands of people to death and poverty.
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i rly hope i can go to iraq for a vacation before i die
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baw posted:i rly hope i can go to iraq for a vacation before i die i hope you go there soon
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Greed is eternal posted:I hope the next president have enough balls to leave Iraq. Considering it might be Clinton, it is not looking that hopeful. There haven't been any American forces in Iraq since Dec 2011 dude.
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baw posted:i rly hope i can go to iraq for a vacation before i die the two events will probs be connected
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Fandyien posted:imo we should return
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isn't turkey going having a thing of Neo-Ottomanism atm anyways?
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we could've subjugated Iraq like Japan if we put a million men in there, installed a morally questionable general as supreme leader of Iraq, declared martial law and were allowed to carry out summary executions in the street we really can't commit overt war crimes like we could in the good old days
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erdogan is kinda autocratic but i dont think he has any imperial ambitions and zildjian is located in massachusetts now so they won't have any way to frighten their enemies
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VikingSkull posted:we could've subjugated Iraq like Japan if we put a million men in there, installed a morally questionable general as supreme leader of Iraq, declared martial law and were allowed to carry out summary executions in the street hey what if we didn't invade instead and used the money we spent on things the Iraq war could of paid for? like a mars colony
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iraq death tolls  for shame, america Zzulu fucked around with this message at 16:53 on Jun 7, 2014 |
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US soldiers committing suicide is justice, not a tragedy
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Lawman 0 posted:hey cant kill coloreds on Mars
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Fog Tripper posted:"civilization" cradle of civilisation motherfucker
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Gobblecoque posted:natives allowed to run things
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Zzulu posted:iraq death tolls maybe spend 4 seconds thinking about who killed all those people im having trouble picturing how retarded, ignorant, and insensitive someone could be to post that and "for shame america" in a loving thread where those same people who killed the overwhelming majority of those people are now holding hundreds of people hostage. Presumably taking a break from "car bomb in crowded civilian market number #459". Get bent RonMexicosPitbull fucked around with this message at 17:02 on Jun 7, 2014 |
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VikingSkull posted:cant kill coloreds on Mars what if you imported them to play the most dangerous game? 
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wid posted:Japan was never a country teetering on civil war due to religious/tribal differences. This. Iraq as a country has effectively been a Sunni/Shiite/Kurd civil war since day 1. Liquid Communism fucked around with this message at 17:03 on Jun 7, 2014 |
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We need a new arms race to see who can lay waste to most of the Middle East with only drones. If they are going to kill each other, their lives are already wasted it, why not get some new technology out of it?
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hey lf is back now, great *puke*
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Liquid Communism posted:This. the british looked after iraq without the country going to poo poo, get your excuses in americans but it did go nazi for a bit, but we stomped on that kurds- churchill showed the way by gassing them General China fucked around with this message at 17:08 on Jun 7, 2014 |
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wid posted:Japan was never a country teetering on civil war due to tribal differences.
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