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Commie NedFlanders posted:The only people who might get hurt by me are liberals and their feelings when I point out the flaws in their ideology "I'm just asking questions! I don't actually want to gently caress kids I just want to prove that liberals do and I'm not projecting in any way whatsoever!"
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Commie NedFlanders posted:I'm in favor of monogamous marriage and sex within that context Even between an employer and their employee? Does it matter if they were married before or after they wound up in those jobs relative to each other?
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Nov 29, 2016 16:40
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Straight White Shark posted:jobs relative to each other? Don't say "Relative". Are you trying to start an erotic frenzy?
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Nov 29, 2016 16:42
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god doesn't exist OP, hth
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Nov 29, 2016 16:45
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I'm not BSing about Canada either they really legalized sex with dogs
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Nov 29, 2016 16:48
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Quote-Unquote posted:"I'm just asking questions! I don't actually want to gently caress kids I just want to prove that liberals do and I'm not projecting in any way whatsoever!" Do you Know how mathematicians go about proving things that are nearly impossible to prove ?
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Nov 29, 2016 16:53
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Commie NedFlanders posted:Do you Know how mathematicians go about proving things that are nearly impossible to prove ? Do they fabricate massive straw man arguments about how people whose political opinions differ from theirs are trying to legalise child rape?
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Nov 29, 2016 17:03
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Quote-Unquote posted:Do they fabricate massive straw man arguments about how people whose political opinions differ from theirs are trying to legalise child rape? Wow I guess you do understand math theory after all.
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Nov 29, 2016 17:11
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Commie NedFlanders posted:I'm not BSing about Canada either they really legalized sex with dogs No they didn't.
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Nov 29, 2016 17:11
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Commie NedFlanders posted:I'm not BSing about Canada either they really legalized sex with dogs Their courts said "hey whoops technically we never actually passed any laws about oral sex with animals, maybe you guys in parliament should fix that nudge nudge." Such shocking libertines!
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Nov 29, 2016 17:12
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I don't know your starting point OP, doesn't the Bible support a gender imbalance in terms of power anyway? as far as anything hetero goes there is going to be a power imbalance and then there's gay sex, the best type of sex in conclusion modern notions of consent are cool and good Quote-Unquote posted:Do they fabricate massive straw man arguments about how people whose political opinions differ from theirs are trying to legalise child rape? lmao
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Nov 29, 2016 17:13
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This just in: fundamentalist Christian sees a court issue a ruling based on strict technical merits instead of interjecting their own personal morality into the law, concludes society has devolved into madness and anarchy
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Nov 29, 2016 17:14
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bag em and tag em posted:Wow I guess you do understand math theory after all. i'm pretty smart
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Nov 29, 2016 17:15
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In conclusion I think you will see that LIBERALS are the real rapists! (Racists, homophobes, bandits, money launderers, whatever bad thing).
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Nov 29, 2016 17:17
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Quote-Unquote posted:"I'm just asking questions! I don't actually want to gently caress kids I just want to prove that liberals do and I'm not projecting in any way whatsoever!" I think the overwhelming majority of liberals would find incest, bestiality, & pedophili abhorrent . However those who do want these things to be legal will be happy to use the logical framework liberals advocate to get their war
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Commie NedFlanders posted:I think the overwhelming majority of liberals would find incest, bestiality, & pedophili abhorrent . However those who do want these things to be legal will be happy to use the logical framework liberals advocate to get their war do you have children?
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Nov 29, 2016 17:25
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From your link WHAT'S TRUE: Canada's Supreme Court ruled that the current definition of bestiality only included penetrative acts.
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Commie NedFlanders posted:I think the overwhelming majority of liberals would find incest, bestiality, & pedophili abhorrent . However those who do want these things to be legal will be happy to use the logical framework liberals advocate to get their war disagreed, support for age of consent is at an all time high, you could make an argument for appeal to tradition for not enforcing age of consent. See: Adult female teachers actually getting prosecuted in recet decades for banging horny 14 year old boys
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Nov 29, 2016 17:28
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Quote-Unquote posted:do you have children? I've worked with child abuse victims and frankly find your accusatory tone offensive. I never accused liberals or anyone here of supporting those awful things. I simply said the fact that child abuse is very real and horribly prevalent and there are people pushing to make it more acceptable. I'm too familiar with the stats on child abuse and they are appalling and so is the way these sexual criminals try to justify their crimes I'm arguing about the way people justify things not accusing anyone ofit so stop with the judgemental accusing tone already If you're gonna be this obtuse and knee jerk why don't you not read this thread and go mod DnD Commie NedFlanders fucked around with this message at 17:37 on Nov 29, 2016 |
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glowstick party tonight posted:disagreed, support for age of consent is at an all time high, you could make an argument for appeal to tradition for not enforcing age of consent. Now this is a fair argument The stats on this type of offense of at an all time high in my state and I wonder if it's happening more or simply being reported more
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Commie NedFlanders posted:I've worked with child abuse victims and frankly find your accusatory tone offensive. I never accused liberals or anyone here of supporting those awful things. I simply said the fact that child abuse is very real and horribly prevalent and there are people pushing to make it more acceptable. I'm too familiar with the stats on child abuse and they are appalling and so is the way these sexual criminals try to justify their crimes lol "i'm not accusing liberals of supporting kiddy loving i'm just accusing them of using logic on totally unrelated issues that i am now using to justify making kiddy loving legal"
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Nov 29, 2016 17:41
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Commie NedFlanders posted:From your link This is a centuries-old legal tradition that never got updated. Canada did not "legalize" any form of bestiality because non-penetrative sex with animals was never illegal under English common law to begin with. It's only in recent decades that animal rights have been more broadly codified throughout the English-speaking world (generally due to pressure from liberals), but this was overlooked in Canada because it didn't really occur to people that their centuries-old body of law was silent on the topic of oral sex with dogs.
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Quote-Unquote posted:lol There have already been US cases of people trying to justify parent-child incest relationships on the basis of "consenting adults" and as soon as they get the slightest leeway the next edge case comes along then the next and then we are back in Ancient Greece
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If I'm your boss, you're sucking my dick, no two ways about it
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Commie NedFlanders posted:There have already been US cases of people trying to justify parent-child incest relationships on the basis of "consenting adults" and as soon as they get the slightest leeway the next edge case comes along then the next and then we are back in Ancient Greece lol not a slippery slope, honest. So far you've posted "is it immoral for a boss and employee to have sex" and people said "it's stupid but it's not immoral" then you went "so by that logic you don't think it's immoral for parents to gently caress their children, checkmate libtards  "get help, seriously.
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Quote-Unquote posted:lol not a slippery slope, honest. First of all you've been unable to provide an argument against the second case without contradicting the logic of the first case, you're just resorting to petty insults Second incest is already wildly popular in pornography and has even made its way into mainstream pop culture (game of thrones). So don't act like I'm just pulling this out of thin air This is how previously taboo things have become normalized
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Nov 29, 2016 18:00
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Commie NedFlanders posted:Now this is a fair argument There was a huge cultural shift on how rape is viewed in the 80s or so When equal protection based on sex started to become a Thing, a case made it to the supreme court where a 19 year old dude and a 17 year old girl banged and it was challenged and the dude won because the age of consent law was only applicable to women. The rationale of the law was not to protect the emotional well being of children but rather to prevent teenage pregnancy. The kicker in that case is it really wasn't even an age of consent case, because based on the case and the girl's story it was a straight up rape where the girl made it clear she wasn't into it when the sexing happened. It was never treated as a forced rape case because it wasn't prosecuted as such  The dissent was the liberal wing of the Court.
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Commie NedFlanders posted:Second incest is already wildly popular in pornography and has even made its way into mainstream pop culture (game of thrones). So don't act like I'm just pulling this out of thin air  that incest porn is fakeAlso I don't think anyone takes moral guidance from what characters do on Game of Thrones
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glowstick party tonight posted:There was a huge cultural shift on how rape is viewed in the 80s or so An informative and fair point
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it's not immoral or illegal but it's probably unethical E: and by that I mean a boss and employee loving
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Commie NedFlanders posted:First of all you've been unable to provide an argument against the second case without contradicting the logic of the first case, you're just resorting to petty insults Okay creepo. A boss and an employee having a relationship does not necessarily mean an imbalance of power. It's stupid and unprofessional because of the high risk of office drama. A boss forcing an employee to have sex with him is immoral and illegal. loving your child is wrong because it involves loving your child and you having spent their childhood grooming them into thinking this is acceptable. And nobody is taking moral lessons from the universally reviled incestual child-loving characters on noted fictional TV show GoT, who are universally amongst the most reviled characters. But this brings me back to my earlier point... is it morally acceptable for Lot's daughters to rape him? I mean, your bible says so. I disagree, because I am opposed to child loving.
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I should also mention the liberal dissent was not based on emotional well being either or anything like that because that simply wasn't the issue in the case, it was strictly an equal protection based on sex case
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Adam, Cain, and Abel did a full airtight on Eve as was God's will.
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The first argument is about a power imbalance and the second argument is about both power imbalance and straight up incest. The problem with the second argument isn't the power imbalance part. Are you asking what's immoral about incest?
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Commie NedFlanders posted:Second incest is already wildly popular in pornography and has even made its way into mainstream pop culture (game of thrones). So don't act like I'm just pulling this out of thin air Pornography and pop culture have always been fascinated with incest, specifically because it is such a prevailing and pervasive taboo. Both the fascination and the taboo have existed side by side, each one feeding into the other, for millennia without any change in the status quo. We've been titillating each other with stories about incest as long as we've had the language to communicate them to each other, and the taboo is just as strong as ever.
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Selling your body for money is inherently immoral. Don't need god to tell you that. Just listen to your heart when you are deep inside some hooker.
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TheLightPurges posted:Selling your body for money is inherently immoral. Don't need god to tell you that. Just listen to your heart when you are deep inside some hooker. What if you have no other options for employment? What if you need the money to get an education?
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Onan never did join in the fun
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glowstick party tonight posted:What if you have no other options for employment? What if you need the money to get an education? Be a waitress its piss easy and pays about the same
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Commie NedFlanders posted:
What you're pulling out of thin air is the idea that it's a new or somehow unprecedented result of those drat liberals and their drat liberal logic.
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