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Upcoming uniques Valyrium looks rather good.
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whypick1 posted:Upcoming uniques Finally, armore that lets me store some potions in my codbasket.
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Aug 5, 2016 03:44
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whypick1 posted:Upcoming uniques Kondo's Pride looks worse than Doomsower
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Aug 5, 2016 03:48
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e: wrong, mixed up items
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Aug 5, 2016 04:35
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Valyrium looks great with Cast when Stunned
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Aug 5, 2016 07:00
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ronya posted:Valyrium looks great with Cast when Stunned Oh poo poo, good observation, time to theorycraft
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Aug 5, 2016 10:17
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dis astranagant posted:Kondo's Pride looks worse than Doomsower Holy poo poo 5% crit chance. Why the gently caress is it not a Lithe Blade? It's even a goddamn katana. It appears to have the second highest PDPS of any unique in the game, but it's not crit themed at all aside from some really lovely mods.
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Aug 5, 2016 11:08
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Those look mostly awful.
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Aug 5, 2016 12:45
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Praxis is a leveling unique, Valyrium is interesting, Kondo's is hot loving garbage.
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Aug 5, 2016 14:08
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Vasudus posted:Those look mostly awful. Counterpoint: Those all look good.
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Aug 5, 2016 14:23
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The Shortest Path posted:Praxis is a leveling unique, Valyrium is interesting, Kondo's is hot loving garbage. Almost 500 pdps with built in leech and 50% inc melee damage (not phys, melee) on bleeding targets. Grab RT and another bleed source and you have a great weapon. I dont get why people are always so quick to judge items as either useless or overpowered. There's room for stuff in between. E: Or go crit cyclone/eq juggernaut. Great attackspeed + accuracy from the ascendancy E2 for clarity: inc melee damage buffs elemental damage, so you get a buff to hatred/taste of hate/added fire/vinktars/heralds that stacks with WED. TheRat fucked around with this message at 14:34 on Aug 5, 2016 |
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Aug 5, 2016 14:26
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Accuracy Jugg was what I was thinking. I'm way too lazy to run the numbers, but just grabbing a bit of inc crit strikes and not having to worry about maxing chance / multi seems cool.
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Aug 5, 2016 14:50
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Let me rephrase that: as a crit weapon, it's garbage.
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Aug 5, 2016 14:56
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The Shortest Path posted:Let me rephrase that: as a crit weapon, it's garbage. It's not though. It's good with a drawback, as it should be. The recent influx of superbroken uniques with no drawbacks is pretty depressing.
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Aug 5, 2016 15:08
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FYI 33% chance to crit = same chance to blind as using Blind gem. So if you get 33% chance to crit it's a "7 link" in the same sense that BoR is a 7 link. Bleed on crit is also more or less worth a gem link but you get that from Voidheart too. And the leech/50% increased damage is worth a few skill points. I'm guessing a high roll Kondo's is like a 10-15% damage upgrade on Doomsower but you lose 15% aoe/10% phys as fire if you're using Doomsower as your main link. On the other hand, no one uses their weapon as their main link and no one uses red gems with swords so those parts of Doomsower aren't great in the first place.
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Aug 5, 2016 18:28
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That assumes that Voidheart is going to make it past this league and not immediately go into legacy, never to be seen again.
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Aug 5, 2016 18:40
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TheRat posted:Counterpoint: Those all look good. I for one, agree with rat. TheRat posted:The recent influx of superbroken uniques with no drawbacks is pretty depressing. I no longer agree. Alternatively you can go some crit CI trickster build with that. If you can get lucky, get your hands on a shavs revelation in a temp league, you can reserve all your mana for auras, have no mana cost for flicker or cyclone, and not worry about having no leech because you stack ES regen. But who knows what the game will be like next league. I am just assuming that all of the prophecy fated uniques and drops from the pale court/proph chains will stay in the past and either be non-existent or incredibly rare. I do think Cospri's will get nerfed, hopefully they leave a legacy version.
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Aug 5, 2016 20:16
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funmanguy posted:I no longer agree. I thought you of all people would agree with me that it's better when rares are your optimal endgame weapon :-/. Having everyone use the same unique weapon is really boring and takes away a lot of the fun of hunting for the perfect rares. funmanguy posted:
I think cospri's itself is fine really, they just really badly need to do something about poison. TheRat fucked around with this message at 20:25 on Aug 5, 2016 |
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Aug 5, 2016 20:23
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TheRat posted:I thought you of all people would agree with me that it's better when rares are your optimal endgame weapon :-/. Having everyone use the same unique weapon is really boring and takes away a lot of the fun of hunting for the perfect rares. I love a good rare item weapon, i used my mirror on standard to get a nice physical sceptre just yesterday. I also ID way more rare weapons than most people looking for really good ones. But I just really like playing strong builds. I am that guy who played mtg and only played the best deck in the meta, because for it thats fun. Thats why i enjoy powerful uniques, its wholly selfish and without any concern for the state of the game overall, but i don't care, its fun. Also ive been using cospris a bit and for me, its the strongest unique this league. If they continue to leave poison in the game as its been the last few leagues then cospris is an easy target for nerf.
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Aug 5, 2016 20:32
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The only thing keeping me from wearing Cospri's over my 6L Lightning Coil on my current Ranger is that I can't afford a 6L Cospri's/Reach of the Council and I'm not willing to blow 1000 fusings trying to manually 6L one of them.
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Aug 5, 2016 21:20
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TheRat posted:I thought you of all people would agree with me that it's better when rares are your optimal endgame weapon :-/. Having everyone use the same unique weapon is really boring and takes away a lot of the fun of hunting for the perfect rares. I think the best solution for this, with new endgame content coming, is to add additional higher tiers of better item mods to the rare item pool. I'd be really surprised if they don't already have this lined up, actually. Bam, the rare item nerds get to have an optimization exercise for their BiS item. IMO the best numerical items should be rares, but the difference between them and a top tier unique should be like 20% at most. It's just not fun or feasible for the majority of players to deal with the mirrored rare item system. Maybe if mirrors were more common, you could force more crafting for top tier items, but as it stands nerfing the good uniques is bad for 99% of players' game experience. Also IMO more nerfs should be directed at damage mitigation sources rather than DPS sources, or at least provide more different mutually exclusive defensive options. Every Hardcore player using Lightning Coil and Taste of Hate is no better than overuse of Council's Reach or whatever.
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Aug 5, 2016 21:21
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the tail is crazily, improbably long that is, a "normal" player has exactly zero exalts and has maybe some chaos from dutifully doing the chaos recipe a dozen times, whereas a handful of dedicated players have hundreds of ex I'm not sure GGG has a way to make crafting more accessible without utterly devaluing currency
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Aug 6, 2016 03:12
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ronya posted:the tail is crazily, improbably long I have way more chaos from drops than from recipes. I'm not so sure the average player bothers with sets that much.
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Aug 6, 2016 03:52
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I think that sword needs a shitload of accuracy to be worth using without RT.
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Aug 6, 2016 03:55
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Gibbo posted:I have way more chaos from drops than from recipes. It's really easy if you horde all your 60+ jewelry. Put it all in a tab and start picking up the remainder of sets while you map.
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Aug 6, 2016 03:56
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The really pro players don't even do the chaos recipe and just spam high-yellow and low-red maps.
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Aug 6, 2016 04:00
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Phobophilia posted:The really pro players don't even do the chaos recipe and just spam high-yellow and low-red maps. I've been recommending this even to casual players ever since the quant changes. High tier maps just have so much quant/rarity now its not worth spending time on chaos recipe. Especially not with chaos dropping in value vs ex.
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Aug 6, 2016 04:01
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Rare rings and amulets are like the one rare that I will always pick up, because 1) what if and 2) it's one item space, whatever. I got quite a bit of good jewelry this league and made some good enough scratch from it.
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Aug 6, 2016 04:20
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I like uniques having drawbacks but I also really like uniques having build-enabling traits like Varunastra's "counts as all one-handed weapons" or Chin Sol's point blank feature.
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Aug 6, 2016 04:24
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I just throw all my junk jewelry and a few belts here and there in a tab. Early in a league I'll price this tab at 1c, since people sometimes do buy junk jewelry. Later on I'll raise or remove the price since I don't want to leave a map for a 1c trade. Eventually I'll notice there is a fair amount of jewelry in there and at the end of a map if I have spare inventory space I'll pick up other rares to complete a chaos set on the way out. It takes very little time to do it this way and I only really actually vendor the sets at the end of a session when I'm done mapping and just pricing poo poo or ready to log out. I still think it is very worth doing, particularly for builds that aren't optimized enough to blast through every map in 2-5 minutes.
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Aug 6, 2016 04:25
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Regardless of the crit mods and whether they're good or not, Kondo's Pride is still gonna be almost BIS for 2h builds that use skills that don't require a mace/staff, just because of that DPS. In that respect it doesn't really have any drawbacks 
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Count Uvula posted:Regardless of the crit mods and whether they're good or not, Kondo's Pride is still gonna be almost BIS for 2h builds that use skills that don't require a mace/staff, just because of that DPS. In that respect it doesn't really have any drawbacks Shown dps is in range for Doomsower (which can hit 480something and is cheaply available at 450). So if you're gonna go RT with it you're basically just choosing between aoe vs leech assuming they don't give swords a good red skill.
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Aug 6, 2016 04:51
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dis astranagant posted:Shown dps is in range for Doomsower (which can hit 480something and is cheaply available at 450). So if you're gonna go RT with it you're basically just choosing between aoe vs leech assuming they don't give swords a good red skill. why not just put the totem in the doomsower
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Aug 6, 2016 05:03
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Kild posted:why not just put the totem in the doomsower I ran that this league. It was ok but waiting for grandpa to wake up and kill dudes always feels just slightly clunky. I get why it's there but my playstyle felt a lot better with cyclone.
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Aug 6, 2016 05:05
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I don't think kondo's look all that bad. Comparing the damage from the one ggg showed us to the large range of damage on doomsower rolls, kondo's isnt just as good, its dramatically better. If someone can figure out a way to ignore or even leverage the drawbacks from kondo's it could be a really good item.
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Aug 6, 2016 16:03
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What build actually uses cospri's will to its fullest extent anyway? Blade Vortex? I tried it with a bladefall trapper but it didn't seem any better really than using coated shrapnel jewels, so I sold it at a profit.
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Aug 7, 2016 22:11
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Mince Pieface posted:What build actually uses cospri's will to its fullest extent anyway? Blade Vortex? I tried it with a bladefall trapper but it didn't seem any better really than using coated shrapnel jewels, so I sold it at a profit. you can do a lot with curse on hit corrupted gauntlets, with those you basically can do any build that utilizes physical or chaos damage (for the free poison)
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Aug 7, 2016 22:35
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I'm doing assassin tshot/barrage with reach and cospri's. Got vuln on his winds of change which curses the first hit, poisons the second hit, then starts dealing obscene Dots because of assassins Toxic Delivery node.
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Aug 8, 2016 00:40
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funmanguy posted:I'm doing assassin tshot/barrage with reach and cospri's. Got vuln on his winds of change which curses the first hit, poisons the second hit, then starts dealing obscene Dots because of assassins Toxic Delivery node. I'm guessing that's mostly useful for bosses? Or do you not one-shot everything offscreen?
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Item crafting of some form is in the new league. Sounds like it might be a regal and exalt sink from the hints in the post, to me. Though I hope it's possible with early currency like alchs and chaos orbs just so it's more accessible to exaltless plebes like me.
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