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Pretty sure the RAT is more likely to give a false negative than a false positive, at least that's what the stats on the instructions in the box I got seemed to indicate. Eg. A negative RAT is no guarantee you don't have it while a positive RAT is a strong indication you do.
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Apparently they are more reliable if you take multiple tests with consistant results..
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ModernMajorGeneral posted:I think some of Australia's collapse in covid response was due to obsession with fairness and inconsistencies (although ostensibly reasonable) always being used at every turn to justify relaxing restrictions rather than increasing them both from an individual behaviour justification and policy making. The response to silly situations like this was always 'I guess there's no point wearing masks in woolies then' instead of 'maybe we should stop gathering in pubs' leading to exponential open er up momentum. It's still going on with the stuff around border travel testing. Our country is run by useless boomers who've never had to do anything hard in their entire lives.
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It's moments like these I think back to the arguments about people not being able to travel to see their families. And people are dead. Their families will never get to see them again ever. No matter what government policy is in place. They can't even video chat them or call them or even text. We had multiple news segments talking about a woman missing her Dad's funeral. Meanwhile people have to watch their families die. If they're lucky, because visitation is changing in light of the pandemic. Like, if I'm supposed to be moved by people not being able to visit the family back in England or wherever then how am I supposed to process all the loving death? If I'm supposed to change my mind because of people's mental health during lockdown, what am I supposed to think about people's mental state as the people around them die and their society let it happen? Everything that happened to people in lockdown is happening far worse to people as a result of stopping it.
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Basically! I for one am excited to find out how the hell my immunocompromised household is supposed to navigate...loving anything from this point on, especially with Centrelink hounding our asses to 'get out there and get a job (but you still get kicked off if you only do online job applications despite every loving company on earth binning in person, phone, and email applications) you filthy loving poors,' and by 'excited' i mean 'goddamn terrified'.
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meteor9 posted:Basically! I for one am excited to find out how the hell my immunocompromised household is supposed to navigate...loving anything from this point on, especially with Centrelink hounding our asses to 'get out there and get a job (but you still get kicked off if you only do online job applications despite every loving company on earth binning in person, phone, and email applications) you filthy loving poors,' and by 'excited' i mean 'goddamn terrified'. Hoorah for Centerlink being awful, always!!!
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If the US is any indication most job ads are fake and they don't intend to hire anyone for them at all, they're just padding numbers to get govt money
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And holy cow do you get added to a lot of spam call lists either through applying or through the job agencies selling your data! Remember two years ago when they actually paid (most) people to stay home and it worked (and they immediately started trying to claw it back almost the day they announced it)? And then the second wave where they avoided every possible permutation of that and everything got worse? Ah, good times, memories, memories. I'm sure this run of "we will do absolutely nothing" will go swimmingly. No one can apply for disability if they're all dead, right?
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Breetai posted:Please, PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong, but I was looking up the efficacy of rapid tests and read that they return a positive result 70% of the time when the testee has COVID. This suggests a 30% failure rate to detect a positive case. There are varying grades of RAT tests, the ones that are officially registered for use here are grouped into either 80%, 90% or 95% accuracy brackets.
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Of course they didn't. They didn't need to.
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21,151. Guess we are doing this  . Herd immunity for some, disability and death for others. Remember the 25,000 cases a day prediction for NSW by the end of January? We're about a month in front. go_banana fucked around with this message at 23:16 on Dec 30, 2021 |
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Dec 30, 2021 23:12
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go_banana posted:21,151. Guess we are doing this that's too many
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5,919 in Victoria. It's hard not to feel like you've been abandoned.
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Sierra Madre posted:5,919 in Victoria. It's hard not to feel like you've been abandoned. Yeah feel like it's just going to get worse here
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So my girlfriend and I have been feeling sick since Monday, same symptoms, got tested on Wednesday as it was the earliest available, and then yesterday night at 11:30 got the news that she tested positive and I negative. So now I've got to wait for another test, but the next available booking is the loving 4th. gently caress's sake.
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go_banana posted:21,151. Guess we are doing this West state best state
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go_banana posted:21,151. Guess we are doing this it was 250,000, not 25k by end of Jan. we're still gonna make it though.
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Laserface posted:it was 250,000, not 25k by end of Jan. Yeah nah 25,000.
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If the NSW per capita results were replicated nationally, it would correspond to almost 67k cases today. We're absolutely going to smash through the 100k daily cases, even if testing can't pick it all up.
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Yeah, with the population of Australia, there's pretty much no way for a state to get 250'000 a day due to, well some states that's every one infected in like less then a week. And at that point pretty much no one would be testing as... well why bother? 21,000 is crazy enough number for a state, in a country with this size pop.
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entity119 posted:that's too many gently caress off we're full
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freebooter posted:I was of the understanding that a RAT is more likely to give a false positive than a false negative, though maybe things change with new strains?
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Doherty said 200,000 cases a day, described as unlikely last week by CMO Paul Kelly https://www.9news.com.au/national/c...5b-bd41fbf4c84a
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Goffer posted:Doherty said 200,000 cases a day, described as unlikely last week by CMO Paul Kelly https://www.9news.com.au/national/c...5b-bd41fbf4c84a Like again, if they're talking about confirmed cases, I just don't see it. Testing is already breaking down at the numbers that were at.
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Dec 31, 2021 02:09
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In the new Palmer United Party Youtube ads, you have a charismaless Craig Kelly reading out a message about how Christmas is a time for family and unity and freedom blah blah blah. It is so unequivocally terrible. Who is it for? Who likes this? Who sees it and says "yes, I will vote for that fat wooden man?"
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25000 is probably the level they know hospitals are absolutely going to collapse at, so I'm sure they put out a statement to say modelling showed that's where we're going to peak. Doubling every two days baby. We're going to see mass death because hospitals won't be able to admit anyone.
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BrigadierSensible posted:In the new Palmer United Party Youtube ads, you have a charismaless Craig Kelly reading out a message about how Christmas is a time for family and unity and freedom blah blah blah. People whose families have long abandoned them.
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starkebn posted:25000 is probably the level they know hospitals are absolutely going to collapse at, so I'm sure they put out a statement to say modelling showed that's where we're going to peak. Hospitalisations / icu / ventilators got up to 1268 / 242 / 123 last outbreak. We're only up to 832 / 69 / 19 so far, but there's a lag of 5-10 days from detection to hospitalization (depending on who's counting), and probably more of a lag between hospital bed to icu to ventilator. Might be less intense an illness as well, plus a lot of cases are probably vaxed and not suffering as much as they might otherwise, but a few days of 20k cases will push those hospital limits pretty hard.
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NSW premier just said that the state is in a "strong position" with covid. Sort of feel like he's just decided to back the winning team. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-31/covid-leaves-sydney-st-vincent-hospital-vulnerable/100732848
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morrison announced not long ago that they've already changed the rules from yesterday & now you can leave isolation on day 6 if you're not symptomatic (no negative rapid test result needed unlike what was announced yesterday) why even bother then, it's not like symptoms are correlated to contagiousness or anything. & of course workplaces don't count as close contact or anything anymore, only if you live with someone. gotta keep businesses open so everyone can get it! lunacy
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lih posted:morrison announced not long ago that they've already changed the rules from yesterday & now you can leave isolation on day 6 if you're not symptomatic (no negative rapid test result needed unlike what was announced yesterday) I mean morrisons literally never cared. He's always going to go for the looses rules he thinks he can publicly get away. The science or consequences of it is not a consideration.
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lih posted:morrison announced not long ago that they've already changed the rules from yesterday & now you can leave isolation on day 6 if you're not symptomatic (no negative rapid test result needed unlike what was announced yesterday) Yeah just saw this. Why even bother quarantining? gently caress me.
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Goffer posted:We're only up to ...69 ...so far, nice
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When do Scott and Dom plan on getting covid?
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go_banana posted:21,151. Guess we are doing this Not gonna lie, I truly though that prediction was some stupid fearmongering. gently caress me.
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Budzilla posted:gently caress off we're full AusPol Variant 4: gently caress Off We're Full of Covid.
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Was gonna reply some variation of "lol why?" to your doubt but it turns out 25k per day for NSW is the equivalent of roughly 1 million per day in the USA. Which yeah, that number is actually kinda crazy.
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Phigs posted:... but it turns out 25k per day for NSW is the equivalent of roughly 1 million per day in the USA. Which yeah, that number is actually kinda crazy. Math is truly the enemy of us all. 
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