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HopperUK posted:No. He was in Starfleet when he went wonky and was arrested, section 31 did not actually manage to mess with his mind, and he rejoined the Enterprise at the end of his arc on Disco. He had already been on the Enterprise before this, under Pike. I like to think that main reason Vulcans have such long lives is to explain Spock not aging between the pilot and Kirk replacing Pike. Probably doesn't hold up though, and it's kinda neat having Spock in TNG anyway.
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BonHair posted:I like to think that main reason Vulcans have such long lives is to explain Spock not aging between the pilot and Kirk replacing Pike. Probably doesn't hold up though, and it's kinda neat having Spock in TNG anyway. spocks in everything. be careful what you wish for
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IT'S MORE SPOCK THAN YOU THINK DAD...more spock than you think
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BonHair posted:I like to think that main reason Vulcans have such long lives is to explain Spock not aging between the pilot and Kirk replacing Pike. Probably doesn't hold up though, and it's kinda neat having Spock in TNG anyway. I think it was partially to handwave the fairly narrow age gap between Nimoy and Lenard; in Journey to Babel, Sarek said he was 102 years old, even though Lenard was only six or seven years older than Nimoy.
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Royal Updog posted:IT'S MORE SPOCK THAN YOU THINK DAD...more spock than you think Suck my Spock, son.
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Typical Pubbie posted:Retconning the character of Spock to be the product of an obnoxious Mary Sue made my nerd blood boil. I could hear the cry of the forum warrior. Is it really a retcon if it's a massive multiverse tho
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Goblin Craft posted:All right, but apart from the exploration of Kirk, Spock and McCoy's friendship, the memeability, David Warner, the score, the cinematography, and Laurence Luckinbill, what has Star Trek 5 ever done for us? He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty
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Goblin Craft posted:All right, but apart from the exploration of Kirk, Spock and McCoy's friendship, the memeability, David Warner, the score, the cinematography, and Laurence Luckinbill, what has Star Trek 5 ever done for us? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXWrOQZSuRc
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Payndz posted:One of David Gerrold's books noted how, as the series went on, the amount of effort spent on making the Enterprise seem like a real ship full of people with their own distinct duties (extras in the corridors, people in specialist work clothing, etc) diminished until it often seemed as deserted as the fake in 'The Mark of Gideon', through a combination of shrinking budgets, shortage of time and simple lack of caring. And then in TNG and Voyager they have the corridors that are so unnervingly empty that they intentionally use it for horror beats sometimes.
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Another report of a possible new Trek film in productionquote:Paramount Pictures has found a new captain to begin work on its next Star Trek film. This may not go anywhere, since Noah Hawley was also hired to write a script and then Paramount did nothing with that.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Another report of a possible new Trek film in production To be fair word is that it was halted abruptly because the core of the delivered script was a massive galaxy-wide pandemic and then 2020 happened.
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MikeJF posted:To be fair word is that it was halted abruptly because the core of the delivered script was a massive galaxy-wide pandemic and then 2020 happened. As far as I have been able to discern, with a lot of "I'm not saying, I'm just saying" emails that have gone back and forth, it was absolutely a galactic pandemic story and Hawley himself made the call to kill the project, feeling he had invested too much time and energy into the idea to go back to the drawing board while also realizing it was the absolute worst possible time to put that story into production. Then the options on Pine and Quinto lapsed and the idea of a Kelvin Trek 4 just fizzled into nothingness. Whatever Tarantino and Mark L. Smith came up with, though, is anyone's guess. loving no one will talk about that script's storyline, not even in the most vague sense, even though it got circulated all over Paramount, and it was developed under the Bad Robot umbrella--and Bad Robot leaks like a sieve. There was one loose, never-substantiated rumor that it was a remake of A Piece of the Action and that it was going to star the Kelvin crew, but even the Memory Alpha guys won't publish that rumor because absolutely nobody will corroborate it (and they're a lot more connected than I am). Timby fucked around with this message at 04:34 on Mar 5, 2021 |
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I would just really like to know what that story was
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FlamingLiberal posted:I would just really like to know what that story was Same. But for whatever reason that poo poo has been kept under tighter secret than the original Coca-Cola formula.
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Hell I might was well send them my script. It's got power rangers in it
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Yeah well mine has Vegeta
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Timby posted:tighter secret than the original Coca-Cola formula.  "Cocaine, brown sugar, white sugar, ginger, and more cocaine."
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Mine is a holodeck episode where they play Dungeons and Dragons and get stuck inside it.
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V-Men posted:Mine is a holodeck episode where they play Dungeons and Dragons and get stuck inside it. Guaranteed better than Nemesis and Into Darkness
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V-Men posted:Mine is a holodeck episode where they play Dungeons and Dragons and get stuck inside it. I have a spec script that’s just Stargate: Universe only the word gate is crossed out and replaced with Trek.
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V-Men posted:Mine is a holodeck episode where they play Dungeons and Dragons and get stuck inside it. Replace holodeck with the Dyson Sphere and you basically have the plot to John Varley’s Titan books. Fantasy through a scifi setting, with the DM being the godlike AI style mind that is controlling the space habitat. That fukken empty Dyson sphere could have an entire series it seems like such a cool setting. Definitely makes me laugh with the episodic ending of like “okay we’ll drop a beacon off here cuz I guess it’s cool but hey we got diplomats to taxi around bye” jeeves fucked around with this message at 13:18 on Mar 5, 2021 |
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Yeah my ideal Star Trek ever since that aired has basically been Ringworld. Exploring an unbelievably vast derelict with virtually any kind of ancient artifacts possible, and likely pockets of survivors in various stages of devolution.
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jeeves posted:That fukken empty Dyson sphere could have an entire series it seems like such a cool setting. Definitely makes me laugh with the episodic ending of like “okay we’ll drop a beacon off here cuz I guess it’s cool but hey we got diplomats to taxi around bye” My favorite part of that episode has always been that Scotty crashed on the Dyson Sphere on his way to the colony where he was going to retire. The thing is so far inside Federation space people are passing it on their way to an old folks home and it still wasn't discovered for another 75 years. What else are they missing?
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The real question is: do you think that Scottish Space Candle Ghosts woulda crossed paths with Scotty on his Scotland retirement planet? Berman plz give me a check for making a good S8 plot rite there
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I forget, was the Dyson sphere not amenable for life? It seems like an obvious solution to the whole burn situation in Discovery if it was since you could probably fit the entire population of the federation on one Dyson sphere. And traveling around it wouldn't require any dilithium whatsoever.
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The star had become unstable with deadly flares, so the entire surface was uninhabitable at least in the long term.
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I just watched the Coffee Nebula episode. I got real excited when I realized she was about to say the line. That was a really good episode I thought!!! Lol at the made up spiritual stuff the con artist consultant sold them though.
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Timby posted:Whatever Tarantino and Mark L. Smith came up with, though, is anyone's guess. loving no one will talk about that script's storyline, not even in the most vague sense, even though it got circulated all over Paramount, and it was developed under the Bad Robot umbrella--and Bad Robot leaks like a sieve. There was one loose, never-substantiated rumor that it was a remake of A Piece of the Action and that it was going to star the Kelvin crew, but even the Memory Alpha guys won't publish that rumor because absolutely nobody will corroborate it (and they're a lot more connected than I am). A Piece of the Action, only instead of 1920s Chicago gangsters, it’s 1980s LA gangs. Spock uses the N-word.
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Nitrousoxide posted:I forget, was the Dyson sphere not amenable for life? Well, no dilithium required once they get everyone to it in the first place, I suppose. Which seems like a bit of a hurdle. And besides, if you thought the Maquis were stubborn about not wanting to leave, just try convincing everyone in the Federation to abandon their (perfectly good) actual homeworlds.
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Route an Iconian gateway to the dyson sphere and stabilize the star with red matter
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sunday at work posted:My favorite part of that episode has always been that Scotty crashed on the Dyson Sphere on his way to the colony where he was going to retire. Space is big. Really big. You just won’t believe how vastly hugely mindbogglingly big it is. I mean you may think it’s a long way down the road to the chemist’s, but that’s just peanuts to space.
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Brawnfire posted:Route an Iconian gateway to the dyson sphere and stabilize the star with red matter But then Michael Burnham can't figure out the secret of the federation location which is so super secret no one knows where it is, which begs the question is it really a "federation of planets" at that point?
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SaintFu posted:A Piece of the Action, only instead of 1920s Chicago gangsters, it’s 1980s LA gangs. Spock uses the N-word. Pretty sure that was the inspiration for the Kazon, actually.
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Voyager is The Warriors
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Brawnfire posted:Route an Iconian gateway to the dyson sphere and stabilize the star with red matter There's absolutely no way this plan could fail.
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Find and activate the iconian gateway in the Dyson Sphere (according to STO) fly to the sun and fix the machinery behind it (according to STO) and then activate the Voth Dyson Sphere in the Delta Sector and get Janeway home like 4 years early, and basically eliminate half of all bad trek ever made!
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Brawnfire posted:Voyager is The Warriors
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So like, I haven't seen Discovery or anything but apparently it's a thing in the 30th century all the dilithium in the universe explodes and so no one has warp drive anymore? But isn't the dilithium just used to stabilise the matter/anti-matter reaction that powers most warp drives, and Romulans have perfectly good warp drives powered by artificial singularities? Did that technology get forgotten when the Romulans were all killed in Picard?
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Shyrka posted:So like, I haven't seen Discovery or anything but apparently it's a thing in the 30th century all the dilithium in the universe explodes and so no one has warp drive anymore? But isn't the dilithium just used to stabilise the matter/anti-matter reaction that powers most warp drives, and Romulans have perfectly good warp drives powered by artificial singularities? It is far dumber than you think. The Vulcans and Romulans are the same faction now, since all the factions are completely different, but yes, it makes not sense on any level, and really, the reason for it, is so stupid, I took a vow of chastity and went to a monastery. Basically the Vulcans+romulans are now total isolationists so no one talks about the romulan tech at all.
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Shyrka posted:So like, I haven't seen Discovery or anything but apparently it's a thing in the 30th century all the dilithium in the universe explodes and so no one has warp drive anymore? But isn't the dilithium just used to stabilise the matter/anti-matter reaction that powers most warp drives, and Romulans have perfectly good warp drives powered by artificial singularities? The dilithium didn't explode, but for a moment 100 years prior it became inert so any ship that had an active warp core at that moment had an unmoderated reaction which caused widespread core breaches. But yeah, they kinda handwaved away any FTL travel that doesn't use dilithium and does the cardinal sin of treating it more like an energy source than reaction moderator. Like, there's no reason why Discovery should have that much dilithium onboard and even by TNG days they were recrystallizing dilithium within the core so 1000 years later I would think they wouldn't need to use so much new stuff. bull3964 fucked around with this message at 17:37 on Mar 5, 2021 |
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