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Is there a special field in Star Trek for studying god-like celestial beings? By the end of Voyager they have dozens if not hundreds of recorded instances of contact with these beings. At some point they have to stop being a surprise.
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Apr 1, 2021 22:23
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McSpanky posted:a sad boy screamed and blew up all the make-us-go rocks in the galaxy All the ships in the federation blow up, except those of the new romulan members. Nobody suspects a thing.
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Apr 1, 2021 22:24
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goons when people criticise something they themselves only like for contrarian reasons: goons are suchh nerrdssss lol omgg
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Apr 1, 2021 22:25
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I do like someone tried to own goons by saying they only think in video game terms while inthread about Star Trek.
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Apr 1, 2021 22:36
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One time, I had a tantrum at a store and caused a singularity to close. Romulans, I'm willing to talk. B-)
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Apr 1, 2021 22:40
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Mr. Prokosch posted:Is there a special field in Star Trek for studying god-like celestial beings? "Have you ever kicked the poo poo out of Captain James T Kirk?" "No." "Have you ever kicked the poo poo out of Admiral James T Kirk?" "No." "Then you are no God."
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Apr 1, 2021 22:59
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Tunicate posted:All the ships in the federation blow up, except those of the new romulan members. 500 odd years after the Romulans burned down Mars and blew up all the federation's ships.
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Apr 1, 2021 23:13
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Powered Descent posted:See also: Cardassia. Are the Klingon and Cardassian symbols shaped after their ships? Or are their ships shaped after their symbols? 
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Apr 2, 2021 01:18
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happyhippy posted:"Have you ever kicked the poo poo out of Captain James T Kirk?" Pretty sure Q would out smug Kirk. Calling it now.
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Apr 2, 2021 01:35
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Astroman posted:Are the Klingon and Cardassian symbols shaped after their ships? Are Dominion ships purple in theme because of the Vorta or do the Vorta have purple eyes because the Founders just really like that colour?
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Apr 2, 2021 01:45
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HopperUK posted:Are Dominion ships purple in theme because of the Vorta or do the Vorta have purple eyes because the Founders just really like that colour? It probably is because of the purple eyes. Vorta have lovely vision don't they? So having all their stuff be purple, which they can probably see well, makes sense. The Founders themselves are hands off enough to not really care about the logistics of running the Dominion day to day, although their favourite colour would probably be like... gold-orange whatever you call the colour used when they're liquid.
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Apr 2, 2021 02:33
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Does the fact that it wasn't really a theme in Star Trek beforehand and weirdly draped over previously unrelated setting elements make it even more of a Mass Effect rip-off?Shyrka posted:It probably is because of the purple eyes. Vorta have lovely vision don't they? So having all their stuff be purple, which they can probably see well, makes sense. The Founders themselves are hands off enough to not really care about the logistics of running the Dominion day to day, although their favourite colour would probably be like... gold-orange whatever you call the colour used when they're liquid. The Founders sneer at the fact that spaceships have to be made out of rigid metal instead of some kind of jelly. Mr. Prokosch posted:Is there a special field in Star Trek for studying god-like celestial beings? I feel like every time Starfleet gets really weird and awkward about possible theological implications and kinda just hushes it up as much as they can. The franchise itself seems like it thinks that it's the natural course of life for people to develop further and further until they somehow jump some kind of step to become godlike energy beings.
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Apr 2, 2021 04:35
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Mr. Prokosch posted:Is there a special field in Star Trek for studying god-like celestial beings? Its all just one Q
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Apr 2, 2021 05:19
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happyhippy posted:"Have you ever kicked the poo poo out of Captain James T Kirk?" But why does God need a starship?
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Apr 2, 2021 05:20
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SlothfulCobra posted:The franchise itself seems like it thinks that it's the natural course of life for people to develop further and further until they somehow jump some kind of step to become godlike energy beings. 
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Apr 2, 2021 08:24
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Bilirubin posted:But why does God need a starship? Jim! You don't ask the Almighty for his ID!
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Apr 2, 2021 08:27
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Now I'm thinking that Gary Mitchell should be a regular on Strange New Worlds, always talking about his good friend Jim Kirk on the Farragut and what a great guy he is. His entertaining buddy relationship with Lee Kelso is one of the high points of the show.
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Apr 2, 2021 09:11
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You mean the relationship where he strangles Kelso with a cable then brings him back to life again, over and over?
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Apr 2, 2021 13:15
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SlothfulCobra posted:The Founders sneer at the fact that spaceships have to be made out of rigid metal instead of some kind of jelly. Now I really wish the Dominion ships were transformers. Like gelatinous shapechanging bioships are just beyond their technology so they do the best they can with mechanical shapechanging ships. Just picturing one of the Founders infiltrating Starfleet HQ and seeing an Intrepid class's folding nacelles and nodding.
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Apr 2, 2021 14:26
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Shyrka posted:Now I really wish the Dominion ships were transformers. Like gelatinous shapechanging bioships are just beyond their technology so they do the best they can with mechanical shapechanging ships. Turns out the intrepid was designed by a changeling infiltrator the moving nacelles don't actually do anything but everyone assumed someone else knew what they were for
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Apr 2, 2021 14:39
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nine-gear crow posted:Jim! You don't ask the Almighty for his ID! I love how they encounter and defeat hundreds of "god-like" beings throughout TOS, but when they stumble upon and defeat this one other being that's believed to be god (by like 5 people) McCoy gets all disillusioned and he's all like "wow, I guess there really is no God, mind blown"
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Apr 2, 2021 14:58
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In an alternate universe, Voyager goes the opposite direction and makes it to the Gamma quadrant wormhole, only to be immediately blown to hell by Rom’s mines.
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Apr 2, 2021 15:02
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Sir Lemming posted:I love how they encounter and defeat hundreds of "god-like" beings throughout TOS, but when they stumble upon and defeat this one other being that's believed to be god (by like 5 people) McCoy gets all disillusioned and he's all like "wow, I guess there really is no God, mind blown" Well he is from Georgia.
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Apr 2, 2021 16:33
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HD DAD posted:In an alternate universe, Voyager goes the opposite direction and makes it to the Gamma quadrant wormhole, only to be immediately blown to hell by Rom’s mines. And nothing was lost.
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Apr 2, 2021 16:37
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Binary Badger posted:You mean the relationship where he strangles Kelso with a cable then brings him back to life again, over and over? "That's our Gary!" *freeze-frame to credits*
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Apr 2, 2021 16:42
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Mr. Prokosch posted:Is there a special field in Star Trek for studying god-like celestial beings? Well, by analogy to astrology/astronomy, why not just call it theonomy? I really like the idea of an academic type going around classifying and analysing the various types of space gods in a casual and slightly boring way that you would expect from an entomologist. I especially like the mental image of Q pinned in a display case like a butterfly.
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Apr 2, 2021 19:40
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BonHair posted:Well, by analogy to astrology/astronomy, why not just call it theonomy? I really like the idea of an academic type going around classifying and analysing the various types of space gods in a casual and slightly boring way that you would expect from an entomologist. I especially like the mental image of Q pinned in a display case like a butterfly.
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Apr 2, 2021 20:05
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Starfleet never seems very concerned that a being wiped out an entire race and is I believe still sitting in Federation territory
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Apr 2, 2021 20:14
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FlamingLiberal posted:Starfleet never seems very concerned that a being wiped out an entire race and is I believe still sitting in Federation territory What would they even do about it? I Beyond just putting up a couple of warning beacons broadcasting "Seriously, stay away!"
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Apr 2, 2021 20:25
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD6KJNpOLJI
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Apr 2, 2021 20:39
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FlamingLiberal posted:Starfleet never seems very concerned that a being wiped out an entire race and is I believe still sitting in Federation territory Buoys saying "STAY AWAY FROM THIS SYSTEM" seem like a good plan.
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Apr 2, 2021 20:51
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FlamingLiberal posted:Starfleet never seems very concerned that a being wiped out an entire race and is I believe still sitting in Federation territory Who is this?
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Apr 2, 2021 21:16
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Nitrousoxide posted:Who is this? Kevin Uxbridge
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Apr 2, 2021 21:20
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Everything and everyone just keeps owning Worf and it's kinda sad.
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Apr 2, 2021 21:25
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FlamingLiberal posted:Starfleet never seems very concerned that a being wiped out an entire race and is I believe still sitting in Federation territory seems like a good poison pill in case the borg or some other rear end in a top hat race invades.
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Apr 2, 2021 22:18
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Tunicate posted:seems like a good poison pill in case the borg or some other rear end in a top hat race invades.
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Apr 2, 2021 22:45
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FlamingLiberal posted:Yeah they should have at least tried to see if Kevin would take out the Borg for them Am I the only one here weirded out by how one of the most power beings in all of Star Trek is a guy named Kevin?
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Apr 2, 2021 22:49
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There are so many godlike beings just chilling in Federation space. Kevin, Trelane's parents, the Organians, the Thasians, the Metrons, Nagilum, that glowing guy Beverly liked... Starfleet really should try to get at least one of them on their side. Failing that, just keep throwing people through the galactic barrier and hope at least one doesn't turn into an rear end in a top hat godlike being.
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Apr 2, 2021 23:08
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FlamingLiberal posted:Yeah they should have at least tried to see if Kevin would take out the Borg for them Now if you asked Uxbridge to "protect us from the Borg," or to do something neutral to protect you from the Borg, he might happily oblige. But then you may run into the additional layer of bullshit where Q thinks this is a failure condition, and on a philosophical level at some point you are just asking Kevin Uxbridge to be God for you.
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Apr 2, 2021 23:31
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Mr. Prokosch posted:Is there a special field in Star Trek for studying god-like celestial beings? I just recently discovered the kardashev scale, and I love thinking about it in the context of sci-fi. Maybe all the God-like beings were actually some type 3 or higher civilization, whose technology, and way of thinking would likely be beyond human comprehension. Q was the equivalent of an angsty teen vacationing in a distant part of the galaxy for a few days, and he just happened to meet a fun distraction like Picard
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