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zer0spunk posted:Alternatively, though, they have more access to a century of music and film than any generation before them. The closest thing I have to that feeling is being on the tail end of having to look things up in actual encyclopedias for answers, supplanted by internet searches pretty quickly.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Many, many movies made it to VHS. A lot more made it to DVD but not streaming. I'm betting my millennial kids had access to a lot more non-blockbuster movies than kids today. Who's bothering to clandestinely stream the first movie version of The Maltese Falcon, iirc Satan Was a Lady? Netflix DVDs catered to the long trail. Netflix streaming does not. https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/satan-met-a-lady They can rent it for 3 bucks, whereas you and I would have had to track that thing down in our heyday. I would have lost my mind as a young cinephile if I had this kind of access..I was in college by the time bittorrent made p2p obscure rips even a thing, let alone any legal channels of ownership or rental.
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# ? Aug 24, 2023 04:57 |
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Thank you for letting me know about justwatch! I will be using it a lot.
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# ? Aug 24, 2023 05:19 |
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Heh, blasts. Because the girl robot has a blaster cannon and uses it liberally. The fun of Wall-E is that the robots are radically indifferent to their assigned gender roles. Why isn't it that Wall-E is 'the girl robot'? Or what if the very attempt to classify them that way is kinda ridiculous?
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# ? Aug 24, 2023 07:04 |
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my dad is a crotchety 70 year old grump and he loved the movie he was absolutely adamant against seeing it when I asked him if he would like to go see it, but eventually relented for some reason and we went and saw it today. what a blast, just a wild ride basically the whole way through. loved the complete ridiculousness of it all. Definitely going to take my mom to go see it, I think she will absolutely adore it.
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# ? Aug 27, 2023 22:00 |
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Saw this yesterday. I thought it was a reasonably fun movie, especially the Ken song. My wife thought it was extremely shallow, had uninteresting takes on society, and wasn't funny.
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# ? Aug 28, 2023 14:54 |
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Ccs posted:Saw this yesterday. I thought it was a reasonably fun movie, especially the Ken song. My wife thought it was extremely shallow, had uninteresting takes on society, and wasn't funny. I kind of had the same experience this weekend. I think my wife was overhyped for it because people have been saying the movie will change your life or something, which isn’t a very fair expectation to have going into a barbie doll picture I don’t think
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# ? Aug 28, 2023 16:18 |
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I'm just super pissed that Barbieland is portrayed inaccurately due to the "it's all in Gloria's head" conceit. In actuality, Barbie's got a shitload of brothers and sisters, and her various friends all have their own names. There's like a hundred unique characters - not just dozens of Kens and an Allan. Gloria doesn't know the lore!!!
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# ? Aug 28, 2023 17:31 |
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Bendable Brad will never be able to run for office.
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# ? Aug 28, 2023 17:42 |
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:I'm just super pissed that Barbieland is portrayed inaccurately due to the "it's all in Gloria's head" conceit. Thats a heck of a thing to be super pissed about.
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# ? Aug 28, 2023 18:12 |
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Drunkboxer posted:I kind of had the same experience this weekend. I think my wife was overhyped for it because people have been saying the movie will change your life or something, which isn’t a very fair expectation to have going into a barbie doll picture I don’t think Yeah, I went in with the expectation that it was going to be mildly interesting and I got my dollars worth. I would call this movie fun and good but overhyping it would be well, too much.
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# ? Aug 28, 2023 19:02 |
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I think once this hits streaming it'll get more of a in the middle response, but I'm glad it did well in general (not for WBD, but for greta) I'm dreading the toy tie-in cinematic universe that always follows when anything makes a profit
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# ? Aug 28, 2023 19:45 |
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:I'm just super pissed that Barbieland is portrayed inaccurately due to the "it's all in Gloria's head" conceit.
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# ? Aug 28, 2023 20:28 |
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The only person I know who hasn't liked it was my Mum who said "it was too weird. Funny, but too weird", but she's always had an aversion to anything that has that po-mo maximalist look.
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# ? Aug 28, 2023 22:20 |
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AndyElusive posted:Thats a heck of a thing to be super pissed about. indeed. Ccs posted:Saw this yesterday. I thought it was a reasonably fun movie, especially the Ken song. My wife thought it was extremely shallow, had uninteresting takes on society, and wasn't funny. brutal. one and two i have no real problems with (though I think shallow is the wrong word, if anything the movie is way overthought, which leads to number two which again, I don't think it's uninteresting it's just wrongheaded) but not funny at all? it takes all kinds i guess.
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# ? Aug 30, 2023 04:40 |
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One of my younger (Gen Z) friends said she didn’t like it because it was too hard on men, and she couldn’t relate to it because most of the men her age are not so bad.
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# ? Aug 31, 2023 20:30 |
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It definitely seems like it is targeted towards millennials.
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# ? Aug 31, 2023 21:04 |
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Cojawfee posted:It definitely seems like it is targeted towards millennials. For sure. Gloria is the audience surrogate, and most of the jokes are 90’s jokes
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# ? Aug 31, 2023 21:24 |
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Halisnacks posted:One of my younger (Gen Z) friends said she didn’t like it because it was too hard on men, and she couldn’t relate to it because most of the men her age are not so bad. Hopefully someone will mansplain to her why she's wrong.
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# ? Aug 31, 2023 21:26 |
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I mean, yeah: Greta Gerwig is a 40-year-old white woman and her output speaks to that. It's not that surprising.
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# ? Aug 31, 2023 21:28 |
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Halisnacks posted:One of my younger (Gen Z) friends said she didn’t like it because it was too hard on men, and she couldn’t relate to it because most of the men her age are not so bad. Guess the kids actually are all right.
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# ? Aug 31, 2023 21:39 |
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Eason the Fifth posted:Guess the kids actually are all right. The issue at hand is that, even if we somehow resolve the gender wars, we will still be "in the poo poo", so to speak.
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# ? Aug 31, 2023 21:49 |
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KVeezy3 posted:Hopefully someone will mansplain to her why she's wrong.
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# ? Aug 31, 2023 22:03 |
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DeimosRising posted:indeed. Sense of humor difference probably results from her growing up in a different culture.
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# ? Sep 1, 2023 03:58 |
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I just think that Emma Mackey should be in every Margot Robbie movie going forward and visa versa. Edit: Why is the entire cast of Sex Education in this movie? mcmagic fucked around with this message at 01:44 on Sep 3, 2023 |
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:The characters in Rogue One are killing Nazis fr. Like, they’re not pretending. SMG, what is your take or analysis on the Hunger Games movies?
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Trent posted:SMG, what is your take or analysis on the Hunger Games movies? Not much of a take: they’re good. As self-aware and straightforwardly literal as Barbie, but with actual left-of-centre politics. Only Mockingjay Part 1 is a truly great film, but that third one is fuckin’ wild, man - a compelling blockbuster sci-fi movie, without any major action scenes, about making revolutionary agitprop.
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# ? Sep 4, 2023 22:58 |
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The Hunger Games are kinda funny for being used as go-to examples of the supposedly lazy and juvenile YA dystopia genre, but compared to drat near every other example of the genre and its stablemates they seem pretty solid. The whole point is that the social divisions are arbitrary and only exist as a means of social control, and the presentation as a mix of gladiatorial games and reality TV making lurid entertainment out of the lower classes literally forced to fight for survival, with the survivors being made celebrities while suffering trauma and alienation, has aged all too well.
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# ? Sep 5, 2023 07:25 |
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The Hunger Games gets the YA-dystopia-killer shorthand because Divergent was so poo poo everyone has chosen to forget it. I even had to google ‘ya killer’ for the tumblr post that says as much to get the name again.
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# ? Sep 5, 2023 10:43 |
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Divergent: where your personality defines your entire life and career and it’s simply unfathomable for people to be both brave and smart. Being a farmer is also a personality.
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# ? Sep 5, 2023 11:12 |
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Athletic Footjob posted:It’s simply unfathomable for people to be both brave and smart. Being a farmer is also a personality. It worked for Harry Potter
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# ? Sep 5, 2023 11:26 |
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:There’s usually a paradox in labelling something ‘pretentious’, because the word is basically a synonym for incompetence. Like, if you’re claiming that you have something very meaningful to say, but it turns out to be wrong. The way to understand the use of "pretentious" in casual online criticism is to take the etymological root, "praetendo", as in to pretend. It's seen that something is pretending to be something else, to let something sinister slip through under the guise. "There was a catastrophic failure in making the movie that stops it from being good, so it was covered up from being seen as a failed movie by being pretentious", etc. It's the usual obsession about directors, companies, individuals behind the scenes to avoid engaging with the thing itself.
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# ? Sep 5, 2023 12:49 |
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Total Meatlove posted:The Hunger Games gets the YA-dystopia-killer shorthand because Divergent was so poo poo everyone has chosen to forget it. Whereas Barry Lyga's YA book "I Hunt Killers" was pretty good. *notices which thread this is* And, uh, I'm sure at least some of the Kens would dig it!
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Ghost Leviathan posted:The Hunger Games are kinda funny for being used as go-to examples of the supposedly lazy and juvenile YA dystopia genre, but compared to drat near every other example of the genre and its stablemates they seem pretty solid. The whole point is that the social divisions are arbitrary and only exist as a means of social control, and the presentation as a mix of gladiatorial games and reality TV making lurid entertainment out of the lower classes literally forced to fight for survival, with the survivors being made celebrities while suffering trauma and alienation, has aged all too well. It followed both Stephen Kings Long Walk and Battle Royale, which is the biggest issue. Both sides of what the book/movies covered are in those movies and both are well received. Hunger Games is fine, but it will always invite a comparison.
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# ? Sep 6, 2023 00:03 |
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Saw this with my mom on Labor Day and had a wonderful time. Normally when a movie is in its second month there are only going to be a couple other groups but I was surprised that the theater was almost half full. Assorted comments: Ryan Gosling and to an extent Michael Cera actually have a lot less screentime than I expected. The movie is extremely tongue-in-cheek about a near total return to the status quo being the "happy ending" so I don't get where that criticism is coming from unless this is the modern internet form of criticism where fiction needs to portray the ideal society or else it promotes bad values or whatever. The Ken's demeaning treatment of the Barbies being sexual but not quite (making them all switch into skimpy maid outfits and serve beers) is weird and uncomfortable, but it's kind of appropriate that Ken's concept of masculinity is like a child's idea of a manly man. Finally: is there anything I'm not getting about the running joke about nobody being able to understand the concept of walls? Allan can't jump a fence, Will Ferrel can't get over the cubical wall, the construction Kens can't build horizontally...
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# ? Sep 6, 2023 06:29 |
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mycot posted:Finally: is there anything I'm not getting about the running joke about nobody being able to understand the concept of walls? Allan can't jump a fence, Will Ferrel can't get over the cubical wall, the construction Kens can't build horizontally...
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# ? Sep 6, 2023 06:35 |
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I feel that might have something to do with how dollhouses usually don't have full actual walls, or at least open up so you can actually play with them. Like say, look at your typical Barbie Dreamhouse playset. In their world, walls exist as backdrops, not barriers. See I would accept that no question if it was just the dolls but that bit with Will Ferrell made me pause because he's not a doll, he's human. Maybe this is a parallel meant to show that the Kens are based on real men, but then Allan does it too even though he's not a Ken...I may be overthinking this.
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# ? Sep 6, 2023 06:46 |
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mycot posted:See I would accept that no question if it was just the dolls but that bit with Will Ferrell made me pause because he's not a doll, he's human. Maybe this is a parallel meant to show that the Kens are based on real men, but then Allan does it too even though he's not a Ken...I may be overthinking this. Yeah, I was wondering about that bit. Maybe it is indeed just a bit to demonstrate that he's not so different from a Ken, and/or maintain a running gag.
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# ? Sep 6, 2023 06:58 |
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I took the inability of men to overcome walls as an issue that girls don't play with Ken dolls like they do with Barbies; they're more or less accessories and are not played with as much. Will Farrell & the Mattel board members also not being able to go over obstacles may also be if you follow the "this is from Gloria's perspective" theory. Or it's just a funny running joke.
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Rarity posted:It worked for Harry Potter It did work for Harry Potter because it was more for flavour, community and competition purposes rather than changing their entire lives forever.
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