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http://www.zeit.de/politik/deutschl...rehabilitierungquote:Entschädigung für verurteilte Homosexuelle quote:Der Antidiskriminierungsstelle des Bundes zufolge wurden seit 1945 in Deutschland mehr als 50.000 Männer auf Grundlage des schwulenfeindlichen Paragrafen 175 verfolgt und zu teils mehrjährigen Haftstrafen verurteilt. Zudem verloren sie oft Arbeitsplatz und Wohnung und wurden sozial ausgegrenzt. This is cool and good but also really late.
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Jul 1, 2016 21:29
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quote:Im Jahr 2002 wurden Urteile gegen Homosexuelle aus der NS-Zeit aufgehoben, Urteile aus der Zeit danach jedoch nicht. quote:antragsberechtigt Mithaldu fucked around with this message at 21:51 on Jul 1, 2016 |
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Jul 1, 2016 21:49
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GaussianCopula posted:People celebrating Stalin because he defeated Hitler and industrialized Russia. It was sparked by the Russians voting Stalin the greatest Russian. Still better than voting Adenauer the greatest German
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Jul 1, 2016 21:56
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skipThings posted:Still better than voting Adenauer the greatest German At least Adenauer was not the worst German.
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Jul 1, 2016 22:04
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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skipThings posted:Still better than voting Adenauer the greatest German Who should win that particular award, then?
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Jul 1, 2016 22:05
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Mithaldu posted:You're doing Berlin right. Yeahñ i've been looking forward to that brunch. Tomorrow i'll be... gently caress if i know. Getting lost again but i really do want to hit up either CC or the old east german musuem or something and buy a commissar hat. My uber host will be back tomorrow and i might watch the game with him and hus friends after walkijg around more. I have been drinking. Pardon the typoes. When's a good day for that potsdam meet up? Would sunday work or does your entire country shut down?
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Jul 1, 2016 22:22
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botany posted:http://www.zeit.de/politik/deutschl...rehabilitierung You know which German state legalised homosexuality as early as 1813 (only to see it recriminalised again after entering the Prussia-led Empire in 1871)? That's right, Bavaria 
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Jul 1, 2016 22:56
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System Metternich posted:You know which German state legalised homosexuality as early as 1813 (only to see it recriminalised again after entering the Prussia-led Empire in 1871)? That's right, Bavaria citybeatnik posted:i might watch the game with him and hus friends after walkijg around more. citybeatnik posted:When's a good day for that potsdam meet up? Would sunday work or does your entire country shut down?
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Jul 1, 2016 23:00
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citybeatnik posted:When's a good day for that potsdam meet up? Would sunday work or does your entire country shut down? My friend wants to come over to watch the game on Sunday anyway, so that would certainly work. Just Skype me up. I'll probably also be at that friend's place in Charlottenburg tomorrow. Also Berlin is a bit of a special case when it comes to Sunday shopping. The Ullrich at Zoologischer Garten is open (and full of foreigners) on Sundays and I think there's some other supermarkets here and there. If I remember right, the Vietnamese enclave at Fennpfuhl is closed on Tuesdays but not Sundays so if you want to buy some chicken feet and enjoy a decent Pho you can do it there.
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Jul 1, 2016 23:12
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Rushputin posted:so if you want to buy some chicken feet and enjoy a decent Pho you can do it there. Holy poo poo really?
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Jul 1, 2016 23:39
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Kopijeger posted:Who should win that particular award, then? Martin Sonneborn ? I don't know, but surely not Adenauer
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Jul 2, 2016 00:47
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citybeatnik posted:Holy poo poo really? One of the largest cities in Europe has a vibrant international food scene, who knew. But yeah Vietnamese food especially is all over in Berlin. Something about solidarity between East Germany and Vietnam back before the wall fell that saw a lot of people coming in to open restaurants.
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Jul 2, 2016 06:44
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Drone posted:One of the largest cities in Europe has a vibrant international food scene, who knew. Not only East Germany, West Germany opened the borders for refugees from South Vietnam during the Vietnam War. About half of the modern day German Vietnamese population comes from that. Immigration from Vietnam into Germany continues since then without pause, nowadays there's even a Pagoda for the Buddhist Vietnamese minority in my city: Viên Giác in Hanover is one of the largest of its kind in Europe. Libluini fucked around with this message at 09:13 on Jul 2, 2016 |
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Jul 2, 2016 09:08
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Also citybeatnik, I'd recommend getting something from the cheap but great Vietnamese place near my home, but they crazy fuckers are actually closed on Sundays. You know, the day I'm least likely to have food in the house.
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Jul 2, 2016 11:15
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Rushputin posted:cheap but great Vietnamese place not stalking pinky swear
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Jul 2, 2016 11:20
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Karl-Liebknecht-Straße in Babelsberg, more or less across the Rathaus. If you're usually on the other shore, I'm not sure if it's worth a trip, since it's not especially fancy or anything - it's just very clean and professional for its price range. But let me put it that way: My dad is a gourmand and while he isn't above eating at cheaper places in general, this Vietnamese joint is pretty much the only restaurant in the neighbourhood he likes.
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Jul 2, 2016 11:30
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Cheers, gonna keep that in mind for if I'm ever in the area (cause yeah usually I'm at the completely opposite end of town  )
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Jul 2, 2016 11:36
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Sieht so aus, als käme die Sexualstrafrechtsreform doch nocht dieses Jahr.
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Jul 2, 2016 16:38
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That is by far the dumbest article I've read in a while, holy poo poo. If I roll my eyes any harder they'll fall out of my head.
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Jul 2, 2016 16:51
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Who would have thought that feminists and the SPD are going to line up behind Gina Lisa Lohfink in solidarity after she wrongly accused friends of #Nachbar Boateng. What a crazy world this is.
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Jul 2, 2016 16:54
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I wanted to give this article the benefit of the doubt, but it really did get worse with every paragraph. At the end it got so bad I'm now convinced all men should be shot, without trial. To take this into context, the article wanted to defend men. It wasn't convincing.
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Jul 2, 2016 17:08
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Libluini posted:I wanted to give this article the benefit of the doubt, but it really did get worse with every paragraph. Just in case you missed it, here is the byline quote:Von Sabine Rückert
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Jul 2, 2016 17:23
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GaussianCopula posted:Just in case you missed it, here is the byline I didn't know who that was. Yeaaaahhh. She's pretty much the dictionary definition of the rich white liberal.
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Jul 2, 2016 17:51
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Ahaha, yes, putting your hand on your husband's dick while he is watching football is going to be a crime once the reform passes. Of course. Killer argument here. Jesus Christ, I love Die Zeit and everything, but sometimes ...
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Jul 2, 2016 18:45
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waitwhatno posted:Ahaha, yes, putting your hand on your husband's dick while he is watching football is going to be a crime once the reform passes. Of course. Killer argument here. Well, how about putting your hand under your wife's skirt when she says no, because she is watching Shopping Queen? No means no and all that.
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Jul 2, 2016 18:53
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GaussianCopula posted:Well, how about putting your hand under your wife's skirt when she says no, because she is watching Shopping Queen? No means no and all that. If your marriage is at a point where your wife is filing charges against you for touching her, you probably shouldn't be touching her in the first place. 
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Jul 2, 2016 19:06
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waitwhatno posted:If your marriage is at a point where your wife is filing charges against you for touching her, you probably shouldn't be touching her in the first place. Well, she could also file charges four years later, after a very emotional divorce.
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Jul 2, 2016 20:33
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ArchangeI posted:Well, she could also file charges four years later, after a very emotional divorce. She could do this before too by making up some bullshit. It would have been just as successful. I mean, don't you find it completely ridiculous that you need to physical resist for it to count as rape? When you are mugged, the general police advice is to never resist and do everything the mugger says, cause money is replaceable and your health/life isn't. But in cases of rape it's suddenly all "Victory or Valhalla"? Why?
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Jul 2, 2016 23:47
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waitwhatno posted:She could do this before too by making up some bullshit. It would have been just as successful. No, I absolutely agree, especially the part about deciding not to resist to not endanger yourself. That's a glaring omission in the current law.
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Jul 3, 2016 01:55
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waitwhatno posted:I mean, don't you find it completely ridiculous that you need to physical resist for it to count as rape? I guess it's a good thing that physical resisting is not required under our current criminal law either then.
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Jul 3, 2016 02:53
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Bless whichever one of y'all that suggested Datscha. East Berlin is basically East Austin it feels like, only instead of Spanish it's German.
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Jul 3, 2016 11:49
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Big shout out to rushputin for hosting me in potsdam for the day. It was fun! And i managed to make it back to the airbnb.
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Jul 4, 2016 00:18
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Hooray! Yeah, it was fun. Thanks for the overpriced bad booze. 
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Jul 4, 2016 11:40
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Randler posted:I guess it's a good thing that physical resisting is not required under our current criminal law either then. Yeah the whole thing seems like a campaign to mobilize feminist voters for the SPD to be honest. And I have nothing against feminism obviously but the law as it is seems perfectly adequate to me. I really dislike politicians playing with their legislative power and using the usual echo chambers of party institutions and affiliated journalists to forward their own career.
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Jul 4, 2016 21:45
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No the law should be overhauled, it's just questionable if this is the right fix. Sexual assault by law required an aspect of force, either actual or threatened. If the victim is so scared that force becomes unneccessary, or if the attacker uses threats but it's not a threat of immediate danger to bodily integrity, it's not sexual assault. That's what the law proposes to amend. As always Randler will now nitpick some aspect of this post.
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Jul 5, 2016 05:49
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botany posted:As always Randler will now nitpick some aspect of this post. Nah, the inaccuracies in there are minor compared to people saying physical resistance is required, so I don't bother.
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Jul 5, 2016 07:53
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botany posted:No the law should be overhauled, it's just questionable if this is the right fix. Sexual assault by law required an aspect of force, either actual or threatened. If the victim is so scared that force becomes unneccessary, or if the attacker uses threats but it's not a threat of immediate danger to bodily integrity, it's not sexual assault. That's what the law proposes to amend. As always Randler will now nitpick some aspect of this post. So if say my boss comes to me and says "Sleep with me or I'll get you fired" then this wouldn't constitute sexual assault/rape under the current law?
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Jul 5, 2016 09:56
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System Metternich posted:So if say my boss comes to me and says "Sleep with me or I'll get you fired" then this wouldn't constitute sexual assault/rape under the current law? That's sexual harrassment.
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Jul 5, 2016 10:01
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System Metternich posted:So if say my boss comes to me and says "Sleep with me or I'll get you fired" then this wouldn't constitute sexual assault/rape under the current law? Nötigung zum Beischlaf durch Gewalt oder Drohung mit gegenwärtiger Gefahr für Leib oder Leben: Vergewaltigung nach § 175; Strafrahmen: 2-15 Jahre. Nötigung zum Beischlaf durch andere Nötigungsmittel ("Kündigung als Drohung mit empfindlichen Übel"): Besonders schwerer Fall der Nötigung, § 240; Strafrahmen: 6 Monate bis 5 Jahre. Ausnutzung einer schutzlosen Lage zum Vollzug des Beischlafs: Vergewaltigung nach § 175; Strafrahmen: 2-15 Jahre.
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