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can I get a datetime conversion from stardate JUNE 1989 to utc?
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Jun 10, 2021 01:26
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FlamingLiberal posted:I don’t think I’ve ever seen this poster before but lol What does Theater need with a seatbelt?
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Jun 10, 2021 01:36
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Alec Peters sent out a very thirsty email this week:quote:While very few people knew it until now, Axanar will be at Creation's Star Trek Las Vegas show in August!
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Jun 10, 2021 01:50
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He's still doing that poo poo? I thought Paramount C&D'd him?
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Jun 10, 2021 12:11
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Axanar will be streamed live on gas pump TV screens at 2:30 in the morning in Des Moines, Iowa!
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Jun 10, 2021 12:24
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At this point I'm expecting it to premiere at the famous convention center, Four Seasons Total Landscaping
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Jun 10, 2021 12:29
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Christ, how long ago was that Axanar trailer, now? 12 years? Edit: gently caress me it's only 7.
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Jun 10, 2021 12:34
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Christ almighty, get a life Axanar
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Jun 10, 2021 14:01
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HIJK posted:Christ almighty, get a life Axanar
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Jun 10, 2021 14:48
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Somehow this complete clown who ruined ST fan projects for everyone is still going.
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Jun 10, 2021 15:47
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How did he ruin it? Im not current on that drama
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Jun 10, 2021 19:58
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Marx Headroom posted:How did he ruin it? Im not current on that drama Cliff notes are he was making money off of Star Trek IP which caused CBS to enact heavy restrictions on fan projects where they were basically turning a blind eye before.
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Jun 10, 2021 19:59
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Marx Headroom posted:How did he ruin it? Im not current on that drama The short version as I understand it is that he used crowdfunding from fans to finance the purchasing/construction of equipment and studio space, then transferred ownership of all that stuff to his for-profit production company under rather stupid assumption that nobody would mind. Unfortunately for him, what this did is turn the fan film into a profit-taking venture, and The Powers What Is had to take notice at that point because it would set a precedent that they couldn't allow. I'm sure someone here is more familiar and will fill in/correct anything I'm wrong on.
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Jun 10, 2021 20:05
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Wasn't he also reporting other fan films to CBS trying to get them shutdown while trying to sell Axanar to Amazon and Netflix, trying to convince them it's an official Star Trek production? Also selling unlicensed Axanar merch, I remember some Axanar branded coffee with a Klingon ship on the package. Also he lied to Tony Todd that Axanar was an official production.
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Jun 10, 2021 20:08
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Veotax posted:Also he lied to Tony Todd that Axanar was an official production. Okay now this guy is on my shitlist. Tony Todd rules.
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Jun 10, 2021 20:19
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 A klangons and a borgs.
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Jun 10, 2021 21:18
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Axanar guy was also using the Enterprise badge as a logo to sell coffee which is a hella huge violation and then when they got their asses dragged into court they tried to argue that "Vulcan ears" aren't trademarked or something which was pretty laughable. They got their poo poo pushed in, I think Axanar ended up having to refund a lot of money and they've been screaming bloody murder ever since.
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Jun 11, 2021 01:29
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Have any of those Dunning-Kruger brained Trek lawsuits actually accomplished anything aside from wasting the time and money of everyone involved?
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Jun 11, 2021 01:42
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Oh drat Odo hosed that other changeling. Unrelated question but can replicators be set to make healthy versions of normal foods that don't taste weird? So you could chow down on whatever you want but it's all nutritionally balanced.
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Jun 11, 2021 02:05
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I think that's the default setting.
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Jun 11, 2021 03:44
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Sisko's dad and Picard's brother be damned then, I'm eating strange-tasting but nutritionally sound mozzarella sticks until I die
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Jun 11, 2021 03:57
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Would you even think it tasted weird if you've eaten food from a replicator for years
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Jun 11, 2021 04:06
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Probably? Eddington presumably ate nothing but replicated food for all of his assignment on DS9 and how much better real food tastes is one of the first things he crows to Sisko about
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Jun 11, 2021 04:40
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I tend to think the sometimes shown "better" experience of food is often in their heads, which can have a real effect on how they perceive and enjoy the meal, so it is "real." Troi wanting a "real" fudge ice-cream, part of that desire is the knowledge of the extra-nutritional indulgence of the thing itself. Plus if everyone was like "oh boy this replicator perfect food is so great, not looking forward to having to eat dirty ol' ground food some folks put their hands and skin cells into" then Neelix would be out of a job nobody gave him. Tunicate posted:Go back to reddit. Not what I was saying at all and one of the strengths of Trek is to be use stories to illustrate "bigotry is bad" through using non-real alien cultures to examine stuff without all the baggage, prejudice, and pain that comes with real history, religion and government.
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Jun 11, 2021 04:42
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Kibayasu posted:Oh that’s why they hate solids so much. That’s fair. You'd think that they would share some of those ancestral memories with Odo of anecdotes of being persecuted for being changelings if they wanted to recruit him. I also kinda felt it was weird how their species name is just an english word unlike almost every other species in the franchise.
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Jun 11, 2021 05:16
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I realize this has been posted before but this particular edit had me rolling on the floor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7-InJXDMwI Especially Data making that weak 'aiiieee'
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Jun 11, 2021 06:13
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Binary Badger posted:I realize this has been posted before but this particular edit had me rolling on the floor: For me, it's Picard miming getting blown up before the ship explodes for real. I appreciate a crew who faces their deaths like a gaggle of blithering idiots. A true credit to the name Enterprise.
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Jun 11, 2021 06:19
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Froghammer posted:Probably? Eddington presumably ate nothing but replicated food for all of his assignment on DS9 and how much better real food tastes is one of the first things he crows to Sisko about Why would said restaurants exist if there were a bar and an automat that only served replicated food?
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Jun 11, 2021 06:46
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LividLiquid posted:This never sat right with me because there were several restaurants on the station in addition to Quark's and the replimatt, whose food was explicitly replicated. The klingon guy surely brought his food in alive, but I think some is just a preference for where to go really. If you're going to quark's you're going to have a drink, play casino games, visit a holosuite, etc. The replimatt I'm sure was just explicitly like, well, an automat. Get in, get out, eat quick with coworkers kind of thing. Likewise, you may want to sit down in a quieter place than quark's with dabo screams going off all the time, but not as utilitarian as the replimat. It also doesn't have to be either or, a lot of places could have a few specialties they make from scratch, but if you want to eat a burger while you're there with company they'll just replicate that. I would also imagine places that served real food on the station charged money, and a lot of starfleet, like eddington, might not have thought it was worth spending what money they were allocated on. Or, the writers just didn't really think it through fully.
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Jun 11, 2021 07:02
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Doesn't Sisko replicate ingredients to cook the jambalaya? I assume the preparation is meaningful. You can also probably toggle the settings between "the computer is tracking your macros and feeds you appropriately" and "No, I want exactly what I'm asking for." Eddington being a smuglord about Real Food that Isn't Replicated is completely in character for him because he's ultimately a LARPer.
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Jun 11, 2021 07:21
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I love how poisoned 24th century humans are by the convenience available to them that doing things halfway doesn't occur to them. Like Janeway replicating cups of coffee one at a time instead of replicating a bag of beans.
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Jun 11, 2021 08:20
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When the Enterprise found the frozen 20th century people and they said that the replicated food was the best they'd ever had. 24th century people saying that "real food is better" seem a lot like the equivalent of raw food advocates who claim that you shouldn't cook food.
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Jun 11, 2021 12:12
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8one6 posted:When the Enterprise found the frozen 20th century people and they said that the replicated food was the best they'd ever had. 24th century people saying that "real food is better" seem a lot like the equivalent of raw food advocates who claim that you shouldn't cook food. I wonder if Federation Hipsters went to Bajor to try some Jumja sticks from some poor farmers while complaining that their infinite food box at home doesn't taste as authentic.
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Jun 11, 2021 12:16
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My take on replicated food is that it's indistinguishable from the real deal except that that it's always the same. Ordering a cheeseburger or a loaf of bread is always the same recipe unless someone programs their own take. A tomato is always the same tomato over and over. There's a difference between replicating the raw ingredients and making it yourself and even more so when you grow the food. It's not that it tastes worse, just that after decades of eating it you can tell the difference. That's the impression I got from the show anyway. Which is why the Mars workers in Picard complaining about their Hungry Man dinners seemed off.
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Jun 11, 2021 12:19
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LividLiquid posted:This never sat right with me because there were several restaurants on the station in addition to Quark's and the replimatt, whose food was explicitly replicated. Easy! Babylon 5 had bars and restaurants, so they had to as well!
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Jun 11, 2021 12:30
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It's also stated in DS9 that the type of replicator you use has an effect on the taste. There was an episode where Quark offers to sell Sisko the type of replicator he uses in the bar, and then later on Sisko is saying that he should've taken Quark up on the offer after tasting something from a runabout replicator.
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Jun 11, 2021 12:45
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Quark's model has twice the Taste Per Nanometer resolution
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Jun 11, 2021 12:49
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8one6 posted:When the Enterprise found the frozen 20th century people and they said that the replicated food was the best they'd ever had. 24th century people saying that "real food is better" seem a lot like the equivalent of raw food advocates who claim that you shouldn't cook food. I think part of it might also be the variation you can get in interpretations of the same meal. You can order the same dish from 2 different restaurants and they might vary heavily - what quality/cut of meat they use, how they cook that meat, red or white potatoes/onions, cherry vs. beefsteak tomatoes, yellow vs. whole-seed mustard, etc. Technically you could probably ask a replicator to make you "a hamburger, 85% lean, medium cooked beef, 1 1/4" slice of beefsteak tomato, 2 rings of raw white onion, spicy brown mustard, lightly toasted sesame seed bun" and get exactly that, but most people will just say "a hamburger" and the replicator has a standardized recipe for it. So "real" food restaurants would probably be desirable for similar reasons they are today, to get an individual interpretation of a meal. Also, I would guess that just like today, if you went into a restaurant from a culture/alien race you weren't intimately familiar with, you'd expect to find at least a few things on the menu you've never even heard of. I assume you could go "computer, list and describe popular Ethiopian dinner entrees" and have the replicator make one that sounded good, but it wouldn't really be the same.
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Jun 11, 2021 13:18
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Lizard Combatant posted:My take on replicated food is that it's indistinguishable from the real deal except that that it's always the same. Ordering a cheeseburger or a loaf of bread is always the same recipe unless someone programs their own take. A tomato is always the same tomato over and over. There's a difference between replicating the raw ingredients and making it yourself and even more so when you grow the food. It's not that it tastes worse, just that after decades of eating it you can tell the difference. I mean it could also be like what impossible meat is like now. I had an impossible sandwhich from Dunkin Donuts and its fine, I like it enough, but isn't QUITE the same taste and feel of real meat.
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Jun 11, 2021 13:46
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Mooseontheloose posted:I mean it could also be like what impossible meat is like now. I had an impossible sandwhich from Dunkin Donuts and its fine, I like it enough, but isn't QUITE the same taste and feel of real meat. Impossible meat and real meat are fundamentally different things though - AFAIK the replicators are building a copy of "real" meat that's accurate to the molecular level.
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