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Speaking of The Power of Love, it's pretty awesome that ALL THREE Back to the Future movies are on Netflix. I loved BTTF2 the most when I was a kid because I really thought there would be flying cars in 2015, and it excited me so much to see into the future like that. No flying cars but swap out the kids constantly using virtual reality devices for smartphones and it's pretty accurate. Also, Marty is WAY TOO convincing in drag.
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computer parts posted:That's not really "Power of Love" unless you're also willing to call The Odyssey that. You're right I like the movie now
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Jul 2, 2016 19:14
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wafflesnsegways posted:You're right I like the movie now -_- you gotta at least be a lil engaged in talking to other people. Otherwise what's the point
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Jul 2, 2016 21:12
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computer parts posted:That's not really "Power of Love" unless you're also willing to call The Odyssey that. I haven't seen 12YaS yet, but I've read the Odyssey. I'm not sure you have, if you think Odysseus' defining trait is loving his family. He's pretty much synonymous with being wily as gently caress. For gently caress's sake, he didn't defeat Troy by hugging it and saying he missed it.
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Jul 2, 2016 21:20
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Chichevache posted:I haven't seen 12YaS yet, but I've read the Odyssey. I'm not sure you have, if you think Odysseus' defining trait is loving his family. He's pretty much synonymous with being wily as gently caress. For gently caress's sake, he didn't defeat Troy by hugging it and saying he missed it. Yeah, that's my point. The Odyssey is from a surface level about a dude returning to his family but it's actually about him going through hell and barely surviving the encounter. Although him and his son do have a joyous bonding experience when murdering all of his wife's suitors.
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computer parts posted:Yeah, that's my point. The Odyssey is from a surface level about a dude returning to his family but it's actually about him going through hell and barely surviving the encounter. That parts rly funny
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Hat Thoughts posted:-_- you gotta at least be a lil engaged in talking to other people. Otherwise what's the point I think he gave a pretty well reasoned explanation for why he found 12 YAS to be hollow oscar bait that didn't resonate with him. I don't think arguing about what constitutes 'Power of Love' is engaging in anything worthwhile.
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Jul 2, 2016 21:58
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Marketing New Brain posted:I think he gave a pretty well reasoned explanation for why he found 12 YAS to be hollow oscar bait that didn't resonate with him. I don't think arguing about what constitutes 'Power of Love' is engaging in anything worthwhile. Well, the problem I have with it is their explanation/reading is like based on their definition of the Power of Love. But (as computer parts brought up) the definition could equally invalidate The Odyssey and that creates an issue. So like, if they actually wanted to defend their reading they could've drawn something in the ground to explain why they feel it applies to one & not the other or just said that they believe The Odyssey is garbage for the same reason. Shrugging & saying *teen voice* "yeah whatever" is a refusal to communicate which especially sucks because it suggests there's no interest in forming a legitimate opinion. Hat Thoughts fucked around with this message at 22:52 on Jul 2, 2016 |
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Jul 2, 2016 22:44
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I tried to talk through my feelings about the movie in a way that I thought might be interesting. If you really liked the movie id love to hear about your experience with it. But if you're gonna nitpick my "argument" (which is just me trying my best to explain my feelings) why should I loving bother? "That thing you didn't like about the movie? Here's an entirely different thing that does something similar, and people like that thing." Uh, OK. What's a good response to that?
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His point was about the irrelevancy of the Power of Love nonsense. He was saying the motivation of the main character, his backstory, love of his wife, etc, from which we get the drama didn't address any of the things he thought would have made it feel less hollow, presumably the topics he mentioned, societal level oppression and slavery as the foundation of the southern economy. Addressing his point about whether that would make a better movie would be engaging him in a discussion. Talking about the exact definition of Power of Love seems to be sidestepping him entirely, and his snarky response doesn't surprise me.
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He's apparently capable of defending himself and I don't want to put words in his mouth, so I'll let him do that, I'm just annoyed when someone puts effort into a post and is dismissed by this forums annoying habit of movie argument sophistry.
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wafflesnsegways posted:Birdman wasn't likely to win, but it's part of the larger problem. It was made to impress people, not to connect with people. How do you know? And more importantly, does it matter? At least half of what Orson Welles did was showing off. He was out to wow you, not bare his soul.
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Hat Thoughts posted:Well, the problem I have with it is their explanation/reading is like based on their definition of the Power of Love. But (as computer parts brought up) the definition could equally invalidate The Odyssey and that creates an issue. So like, if they actually wanted to defend their reading they could've drawn something in the ground to explain why they feel it applies to one & not the other or just said that they believe The Odyssey is garbage for the same reason. I probably didn't explain it very well and it's not like I have some big broader theory about it. But basically, I felt like it wasn't a three dimensional main character, and his defining trait was that he loved his family, which I think is emblematic of the how barebones it was. (Chiwetel Ejiofor did an amazing job with what he had to work with though and that covered up a certain amount of the writing problems.) (Maybe I shouldn't have put "The Power of Love" in capital letters or even brought it up at all because honestly it's not a huge part of why I didn't like the movie, just a small gripe.) I'm not interested in talking about the odyssey because I don't give a poo poo and I doubt very many here do either. Did you like the movie?
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yes but what should i watch on streaming
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Edminster posted:yes but what should i watch on streaming I hear 12 Years a Slave is really good.
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Sarchasm posted:I hear 12 Years a Slave is really good. I'm not in the mood for a love story, can you recommend something grimdark instead?
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Oscar Bait = A critically-acclaimed movie that wafflesnsegways doesn't like
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I just watched Kagemusha on Netflix and holy hell i just want to say that right now it feels like every other movie I've ever seen was made by an amateur. Incredible movie and Kurosawa owns
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Mover posted:I just watched Kagemusha on Netflix and holy hell i just want to say that right now it feels like every other movie I've ever seen was made by an amateur. Incredible movie and Kurosawa owns Now go watch Ran, it's visually incredible and my favorite of his color movies. It was on the streaming services but I think it got taken off a while ago unfortunately. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwP_kXyd-Rw
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Jul 3, 2016 03:34
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hihifellow posted:Now go watch Ran, it's visually incredible and my favorite of his color movies. It was on the streaming services but I think it got taken off a while ago unfortunately. It's on Hulu along with a few other of his movies.
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Edminster posted:yes but what should i watch on streaming Lethal Weapon 1-4
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hihifellow posted:Now go watch Ran, it's visually incredible and my favorite of his color movies. It was on the streaming services but I think it got taken off a while ago unfortunately.
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Ran is so beautiful I had to watch it twice. The first time I was staring at the scenery so much I missed the subtitles half the time. 
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I love Kagemusha. I'm not sure it's a great introductory Kurosawa movie - it really feels like a culmination, like he's putting all of his most epic ideas into one big piece. (Still haven't seen Ran and can't wait to.) Basically, watch Kagemusha, and if you like it, watch more Kurosawa, and if you don't like it, watch more Kurosawa.
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Accident Underwater posted:It's on Hulu along with a few other of his movies. They're showing the restored version at the Pacific Film Archive in Berkeley next Friday. I have my tickets already 
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:They're showing the restored version at the Pacific Film Archive in Berkeley next Friday. I have my tickets already I caught it at the NY Film Forum, it's really awesome.
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Nobody's sung the praises of Happy Valley in a while, so I will. It's great TV; a compelling character drama that's able to maintain a bleak tone throughout without falling into grimdark ridiculousness or becoming too oppressive. Well acted, well scored... maybe I don't watch a lot of TV but the last time that I was this into a crime drama was The Wire.
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The mighty morphin power rangers movie aka the best movie ever loving made is on HBO go now. You're welcome 
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wafflesnsegways posted:Yeah, I've read his memoir. I highly recommend it. It's very short, you can read it over lunch. After he escaped he toured the abolitionist circles telling his story, and there's a good chance that someone targeted him for it. Chichevache posted:I haven't seen 12YaS yet, but I've read the Odyssey. I'm not sure you have, if you think Odysseus' defining trait is loving his family. He's pretty much synonymous with being wily as gently caress. For gently caress's sake, he didn't defeat Troy by hugging it and saying he missed it. I also don't remember the part where Odysseus defeated Troy, maybe you're mixing him up with Gerard Butler? I mean there was that one time he dressed up like a woman and snuck into Troy to steal the Paladium or some poo poo, but other than building a big wooden horse... coyo7e fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Jul 3, 2016 |
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Jul 3, 2016 21:33
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12YAS is not a film about slavery, i.e., it's not about the past. It's about America's particular racial caste system.
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Maxwell Lord posted:At least half of what Orson Welles did was showing off. He was out to wow you, not bare his soul.
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Jul 3, 2016 21:39
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How is building the wooden horse not Odysseus defeating the Trojans? Because of his plan the Argives storm Priam's city and destroy it. Without Odysseus that war is lost and Agamemnon's alliance crumbles after the death of Achilles. Are you conflating the Siege of Troy with 300's depiction of the Battle of Thermopylae, or is this a joke? Sean Bean plays Odysseus in the Troy movie.
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Jul 3, 2016 22:13
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Sean Bean always dies, that's a loser move
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Odysseus is a major player in both The Iliad and The Odyssey, and I think a handful of people in here have their wires crossed as to which is which. Iliad: The siege of Troy, where the Greeks (of whom Odysseus is a high-ranking leader) eventually sack the city. Odyssey: Odysseus fucks around on the Mediterranean for ten years attempting to get home after the war.
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Okay, if we're done with the aside about movies that aren't streaming, there's this Ethiopian drama from 2014 called Difret up and if you're into dust-of-the-earth international cinema and social realism, you'll dig it. It's about what happens when modern litigation collides with antiquated cultural traditions, creating the perfect storm of bureaucratic bullshit in the face of injustice: A teenage girl is charged with the murder of a man who abducted and raped her, and it's basically an uphill battle from there to not only see her exonerated, but to also serve justice without resulting in reactionary violence. I'm not sure that technically it's much to shake a stick at, but there's this one scene around thirty-five minutes in with the village elders debating the situation which is absolutely riveting.
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I've been watching Prison Break on Netflix(UK) as background noise mostly for a few days starting with season 3 (I watched the first 2 when it aired) and whilst I enjoy the show despite it's ridiculousness I cant help but be put off by the amount of noise on display I don't know what they did but some shots are ridiculously grainy.
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Sarchasm posted:Odysseus is a major player in both The Iliad and The Odyssey, and I think a handful of people in here have their wires crossed as to which is which.
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A hell of a lot of sources attribute Odysseus with being possibly the greatest liar in history, but few claim he was actually good at much besides maybe archery
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Ran was really good. It's basically a feudal Japanese version of a Shakespeare play and it looks absolutely gorgeous. It's a bit on the long side, but definitely worth it. I watched it while multitasking and had no real trouble following along since most of the important characters either look ridiculous or are in helpfully color coded costumes.
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It's a shame that none of Kurosawa's noir stuff is on Netflix. As great as his samurai work is, I get the urge to watch High and Low or The Bad Sleep Well more often.
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