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Tom Brady is an owner in a player's uniform.
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Jul 23, 2017 05:56
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seiferguy posted:Tom Brady is a piece of poo poo.
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Jul 23, 2017 05:58
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Brady, but only because I still don't think Mark Davis was all that douchey. He was pretty up front that he wasn't gonna stay in Oakland and, aside from jobbing a known jobber in Sheldon Adelson, played the financing thing pretty par for the course. Brady defended his brand at the expense of his wife, his fellow NFLPA members, the guys he threw under the bus for colluding, etc etc. He also made Jim Harbaugh somehow look worse when he showed up to a UM game to toss the pigskin for cheap media coverage.
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Jul 23, 2017 06:20
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Tom Brady, because (credit to the Chromatic in the News and Views thread) https://twitter.com/AllbrightNFL/status/888149869424254976
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Jul 23, 2017 06:37
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Tom Brady
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Jul 23, 2017 07:19
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Tom Brady for throwing his wife (who actually makes more than him) under the bus when faced with public scrutiny.
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Jul 23, 2017 07:48
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Skwirl posted:Tom Brady, because (credit to the Chromatic in the News and Views thread) Yeah this
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Jul 23, 2017 10:20
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Leperflesh posted:I suppose one thing to consider is that the Raiders move will take place in two or three years, so there will be two or three more years of opportunity to give Davis the win specifically for this move: whereas the Spanoses will be ineligible for the move starting next year, unless there is new douchebaggery related to the move to report. Way to put your thumb on the scale there buddy. Also most of Brady's peak douche is old news, his shady TB12 company included. That story broke in 2015, so no votes based on just that are valid. https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/...qeBL/story.html He's a great Hall of Fame candidate, but for this year he's piss weak compared to a team stealing piece of poo poo people are trying to excuse on a legalistic loophole, or because he has a populist image that fools morons. sean10mm fucked around with this message at 13:11 on Jul 23, 2017 |
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Jul 23, 2017 13:01
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sean10mm posted:Way to put your thumb on the scale there buddy. He's still doing the shady poo poo. Therefore it is totally relevant this year.
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Jul 23, 2017 15:07
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sean10mm posted:Way to put your thumb on the scale there buddy. lol
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Jul 23, 2017 15:45
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This one is tough. My instinct is to vote for Brady. But what is doucheier, pretending to be more than you are like Brady? Or pretending to be just another guy when you don't behave that way like Davis? Brady is arguably closer to what he pretends to be, in that he has a certain greatness but he has just overstated it wildly. There is nothing "just another guy" about a silver-spoon supercuts-sneeze simpleton prick like Davis. First off, I'm not going to blame Brady for finding a way to cheat the system and get paid what he deserves outside the cap. That's more on Kraft than him, and he has a competitive reason to accept the plan because it gives the team more room to work with. If the other owners or the NFLPA don't like it, then I suggest they loving do something about it, or just join the club and become landlords for their player's snake oil clinics too. Brady's antics are super douchey bordering on a God complex: He's the male Gwyneth Paltrow, except instead of steaming your genitals he wants you to reduce the pressure in your balls. But it just doesn't have the profound impact of what Davis did. Normally, what a business does to gently caress people over doesn't rank on the douche scale, because I believe douche implies a moral component; it's doing something you shouldn't, or conducting yourself in a way you shouldn't. Corporations are non-moral actors and non-people, despite what Mittchum Romney says. However, there are at least two times where it's a bit different: when the people being hosed are employees or when they are fans rather than normal customers. Employees depend on the corporation acting with their interests in mind, and fans support you out of a non-business interest and cannot always just go to another vendor like a normal customer can. Doing either wrong is preying on their vulnerability, though to different degrees. The number of people harmed and the special circumstances of sport mean it exists on the douche scale in a way that it does not if Amazon or GE were to move in the same way. I think I have to give it to Davis.
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Jul 23, 2017 16:08
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Tom Brady. (Insert image of Tom counting his rings.)
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Jul 23, 2017 18:35
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sean10mm posted:Way to put your thumb on the scale there buddy. My impartiality is pretend. I assure you I count all the votes fairly, though. Also the Brady/Spanos matchup hasn't happened yet, and might not happen at all. But regardless, I believe people will vote as they please and that I don't have special powers of persuasion that are stronger than anyone else's in the thread. quote:Also most of Brady's peak douche is old news, his shady TB12 company included. That story broke in 2015, so no votes based on just that are valid. "When the story broke" is not the criterion. Leperflesh posted:Eligibility Brady's TB12 company is ongoing, and the affect - his artificially low salary, giving the Pats extra room under the cap - is ongoing and certainly affected them last year. quote:He's a great Hall of Fame candidate, but for this year he's piss weak compared to a team stealing piece of poo poo people are trying to excuse on a legalistic loophole, or because he has a populist image that fools morons. Maybe so! I encourage you to keep advocating for the position you believe passionately in: that's the lifeblood of this thread and process, after all. There's a good argument to be made that the main reason people are voting Brady right now is because they're angry about the Pats superbowl and this is a way to express that. Finally, I will point out that in the previous years of this contest, the guy running the thing also voted: I have abstained. Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 18:58 on Jul 23, 2017 |
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Jul 23, 2017 18:56
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Speaking of the hall of fame: e: I'm great at reading, part 9001 in this thread. iospace fucked around with this message at 19:18 on Jul 23, 2017 |
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Jul 23, 2017 19:06
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Leperflesh posted:#2: Douchebag Paterno/Sandusky has been explicitly disallowed in the past, although we've had Penn State Fans as nominees before. I carried forward that ban, but I'm open to a discussion about it if you guys think it's an unnecessary exclusion. I'd say we could exclude the allegations regarding the sexual assault coverup, but I don't think the thread or voters can reasonably discuss and vote on Paterno while doing that. Like I said, though, I'm open to it if the thread feels it's appropriate and worthwhile.
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Jul 23, 2017 19:16
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Retracted, because I can read 
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Jul 23, 2017 19:18
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As much as I detest Tom Brady, moving a team and all the consequences of doing so are ultimately more substantial than playing for the Patriots. Mark Davis. By the way, since the Chargers aren't in their final home, wouldn't the Spanos family qualify for the contest until that happened using the same logic applied here?
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Jul 23, 2017 19:47
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gently caress Tom Brady
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Jul 23, 2017 21:16
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I am fond of both men, and therefore would like at this time to add my own nomination of my Self for the hall of fame thing. I Love You
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Jul 23, 2017 22:31
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Zurreco posted:Brady, but only because I still don't think Mark Davis was all that douchey. He was pretty up front that he wasn't gonna stay in Oakland and, aside from jobbing a known jobber in Sheldon Adelson, played the financing thing pretty par for the course. These points are how I was thinking about it, too. Therefore, Tom Brady.
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Jul 24, 2017 01:47
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Mark Davis screwing over Sheldon Adelson is part of the reason I didn't vote for Davis.
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King Hong Kong posted:By the way, since the Chargers aren't in their final home, wouldn't the Spanos family qualify for the contest until that happened using the same logic applied here? Presumably "Moving the team to LA" has happened, but "Moving the team" is ongoing? Cavauro posted:I am fond of both men, and therefore would like at this time to add my own nomination of my Self for the hall of fame thing. I Love You You were already nominated, so I've added this to the seconds. You now have four seconds, which is the most! I Love You Too.
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Jul 24, 2017 06:08
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i will never come back for seconds. that's a gluttony And greed combination
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Jul 24, 2017 06:30
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Zurreco posted:but only because I still don't think Mark Davis was all that douchey. He was pretty up front that he wasn't gonna stay in Oakland and, aside from jobbing a known jobber in Sheldon Adelson, played the financing thing pretty par for the course. I don't have any great love for Tom Brady, but don't sell Davis short here.
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Jul 24, 2017 09:22
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Tom Brady, a member of the NFLPA, gets paid under the table by management for taking below-market wages and supports discrimination against fellow union members based on their religion. A man willing to betray his own wife is a douche that cannot be trusted.
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Jul 24, 2017 19:47
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Tom Brady for reasons I can't really articulate. I guess Mark Davis really sucks but doesn't scream douche to me the same way Brady does.
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Jul 24, 2017 21:05
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sean10mm posted:Way to put your thumb on the scale there buddy. 
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Jul 25, 2017 00:04
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Tom Brady wins, 36-18 over Mark Davis.
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Jul 25, 2017 01:35
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Dean Spanos and family vs. Pacman Jones Dean Spanos and family stole the Chargers from the city of San Diego and made off with them in a very nasty way. Also various items previously discussed for Chargers Front Office can largely be attributed to them.  The closest any of these fabulously rich people will come to doing actual work in their entire privileged lives Pacman Jones does his best to cripple his opponents on the field, and spits on nurses in his spare time.  A familiar sight to Cincinnati residents
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Jul 25, 2017 01:41
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Spanos family slumlords, failson, owned by MLS team, etc. etc.
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Jul 25, 2017 01:43
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Jul 25, 2017 01:43
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Dean Spanos + all the other Spanoses.
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Jul 25, 2017 01:45
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They're creepy and they're kooky, Mysterious and spooky, They're altogether ooky, The Spanos Family!
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Jul 25, 2017 01:50
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The Spanos Family
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Jul 25, 2017 01:51
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Spanos Family in another land slide
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Jul 25, 2017 02:06
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PostNouveau posted:Spanos family slumlords, failson, owned by MLS team, etc. etc.
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Jul 25, 2017 02:08
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Dean Spanos and family stole the Chargers from the city of San Diego.
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Jul 25, 2017 02:38
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Leperflesh posted:Pacman Jones does his best to cripple his opponents on the field, and spits on nurses in his spare time. 
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I'm going to do something because I am disturbed at how many shutouts there's been so far. I am going to vote for Pacman "Adam" Jones so there won't be a shutout. This is not an endorsement of his douchebaggery being larger than what Dean Spanos and his fuckwit family have accomplished. Yes, Pacman is a dirty, lovely player and somehow a worse human being. This is why he deserves a 1-point acknowledgement. Dean Spanos should be acknowledged to be the biggest douche of the year. Hell, he managed to somehow be worse than Stan Kroenke and his douchebag move out of St. Louis. He's sunk the bar so low that it's like Freddy Krueger came in it's dreams and swallowed it in the mud where a few air pockets seep out until it chokes and dies. It's midnight, there's a crow in the background being a tool, there's a parked ice creme truck in someone's driveway nearby, it's a kind-of warm night so it's uncomfortable to be outside; idk, at this point I'm just winging it. gently caress Dean Spanos.
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