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The Butcher posted:That's sort of one of the issues I'm stuck on. Why do we do anything? It's just pain and pleasure in the end. Yeah so the big problem is we don't really have any good answers for what consciousness is other than maybe just an emergent affect from an incredibly complex system. There is also a lot of questions about if you consciously chose to do something or your unconsciousness brain is just doing a whole bunch of stuff in the background and what we think of thinking is basically just a picture show playing based off that stuff and our conscious thinking doesn't actually change anything. It's just an audience. But yeah pain pleasure, and having emotional reactions -based off pain/pleasure like/dislike- to me doesn't seem to explain anything about consciousness and how it arises, as it's easy enough to code in if keyboard=smashed with hammer then then pain=+1 into a computer but that still doesn't make it feel pain, to feel pain you need to be conscious, so how would that develop then? Anyway I've always sort of like Dr Dan Dennett (He's a cognitive scientist and philosopher) thoughts on conscious, so might want to check him out if your interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm8M_xQrgCk (only watched first 10 minutes but it seems to be one of his most recent and a pretty good intro to his stuff), https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGPIzSe5cAU (a talk he gave where he goes through a bit more into the science behind his thoughts, but nothing that you would of had to of study the field to actually follow)
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SniperWoreConverse posted:someone do something like "cyberskull vaping in the style of van Gogh"   
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imagine if they managed to prove that thoughts occur 0.0000001 seconds after the action we think they refer to, proving forever that we literally don't have any control over our actions and only think about them after they happen
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precision posted:imagine if they managed to prove that thoughts occur 0.0000001 seconds after the action we think they refer to, proving forever that we literally don't have any control over our actions and only think about them after they happen Do you think that would change anything about how society is structured?
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A Strange Aeon posted:Do you think that would change anything about how society is structured? no, because most people would be like "lmao what" or "i don't care" but it would change a lot of people who do care, i think. i mean, speaking for myself, if i had irrefutable proof that i did not ever "decide" to do anything, i would have to go completely insane and invent whole new belief paradigms to explain it to myself, or just give up
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how long does pixray usually take? it's been stuck for an hour on "two princesses standing in front of a mechanical horse under the aurora borealis"
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precision posted:imagine if they managed to prove that thoughts occur 0.0000001 seconds after the action we think they refer to, proving forever that we literally don't have any control over our actions and only think about them after they happen they already did that, iirc edit: https://www.nature.com/articles/news.2008.751
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ymgve posted:they already did that, iirc nah that was just hilariously bad statistics
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ymgve posted:they already did that, iirc oh yeah! that one doesn't scare me though, because the experiment used isn't like... i mean, i would be scared if it weren't literally "just push this button at a random time". it's not super surprising that there's a big delay there, to me. that doesn't, to me, sound like any kind of removal of authority if they manage to replicate the same thing with something less ephemeral i'll start poooping
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I've done a lot of uh, experiments... with alcohol and I find the removal of the inhibition filter to be really interesting. And often painful. It's not "should I do that?" It's just "I'm gonna do that right now" or even "I'm not really sure why I did that." And even sober, there is still different sorts of acting without thinking with words. Something unexpected approaches rapidly in your peripheral vision and you'll try to block it, you don't internal dialogue "should I block that?". Weird rear end monkey brains. The Butcher fucked around with this message at 17:59 on May 27, 2022 |
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one time i was pretty sauced at a friend's birthday party, and we were leaning on a railing on a porch, and the railing just straight up broke my friend tumbled down the hill and everyone was like "holy poo poo" somehow, i did a literal Matrix/Hollywood stunt scene thing where, as i was falling backwards with a beer in my left hand, i IMMEDIATELY hooked my right arm out and caught the support beam, and pulled myself back up onto the porch. i mean i was fully tilted backwards and on my way down and my brain just went YO DUDE and did this awesome thing, and i sometimes wonder if being drunk actually made that easier?
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A roundabout way of getting Biscuit from HunterxHunter  
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precision posted:how long does pixray usually take? it's been stuck for an hour on "two princesses standing in front of a mechanical horse under the aurora borealis" usually less than 5 minutes per picture
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Lord Stimperor posted:Bernie Sanders shooting jfk Look he knew it was the only way to get the civil rights act passed, he did what he had to do. Just let the past be the past!!!!
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"two princesses standing in front of a mechanical horse under the aurora borealis"
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precision posted:"two princesses standing in front of a mechanical horse under the aurora borealis" 
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Alice in wonderland tea party in the style of HR Giger Butcher shop in the style of HR Giger Edit: stuffed animal crucifixion in the style of HR Giger Edit 2: vaporwave last supper of reptilian aliens Woodsy Owl fucked around with this message at 02:45 on May 28, 2022 |
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Jim playing a prank on Dwight
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Woodsy Owl posted:Alice in wonderland tea party in the style of HR Giger i got some ideas on that subject...  
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Applewhite posted:Jim playing a prank on Dwight it appears that Jim's pranks have been very disfiguring 
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This is some Dr. Who poo poo
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Maybe "Jim mugs the camera after pranking Dwight"?
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Applewhite posted:Jim playing a prank on Dwight oh you know i got you 
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precision posted:oh you know i got you Jesus lol
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I think the only photos of Dwight the AI was trained on were from this scene
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Applewhite posted:This is some Dr. Who poo poo  I'm kind of fascinated at the way it combines recognizable bits of a bunch of different Doctors. Also the Dalek/TARDIS hybrid in the first panel.
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The hybrid offspring of an elephant and a shark An average example of chaos A yearbook page from MIT, class of 2189 A 1820 woodcut depicting the origin of the universe according to kangaroos A comfortable but unaffordable bed A full page advertisement for a perpetual motion machine
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nailed it on the first try "pure evil" 
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kay this is mildly scary... i put "[my name] performing slam poetry onstage with [my friend's name]", something which definitely happened but which there are no pictures online of. and yet... it uh... it fuckin did it. this is fuckin wild haha  i mean that even looks exactly like some places we were... and the thing is, right, he died in 2002 or so, that's why i say there's basically no pics of him and me... haha drat jesus
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TIP posted:it appears that Jim's pranks have been very disfiguring Jim mugs at the camera "Oh, yeah, I've been subtly degrading Dwight's DNA every day for years now. It's hilarious, he can barely move or breathe now."
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munce posted:using At first I skipped past your prompt and just looked at the images and though "those look like action movie posters", then I scrolled back up and welp,
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Lamebot posted:A roundabout way of getting Biscuit from HunterxHunter Holy poo poo lol
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SniperWoreConverse posted:someone do something like "cyberskull vaping in the style of van Gogh" It's not cyber, it's not vaping, but these are pretty good:  Other prompts from the last page I tried: "Sailor Moon in the style of Baki manga" Clearly the model doesn't know what Baki is  , but it knows what Sailor Moon is "two princesses standing in front of a mechanical horse under the aurora borealis" The model says you can get 2 of those things, not all three, sorry  "One, two princes kneel before you, that's what I said now" uhh...  ?
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Good! Your taste has made you powerful. Now, fulfill your destiny and take your father's place in my stomach!
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