The Vosgian Beast posted:

https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/735671790115131392

Organizing a mob is bad

http://ask.fm/St_Rev/answers/128305288958
Organizing a mob is good

Heresiarch posted:

When the hell did Pando stop being just a bunch of press releases?

It's still garbage but it's different garbage, I wonder what happened.

Hate Fibration posted:

I don't own a TV! That's what laptops and internet connections are for!

I think you are massively overestimating how universal 4chan was for people. Me and my friends in high school were massive dorks. I feel like the fact that they used memes in everyday conversation and I still hung out with them was evidence of this. But no one outside my little group of nerd friends would catch the references. The internet equivalent of "I down even own a TV" is easily "I don't have a Facebook" and I am not sure why you are so defensive about 4chan, especially when talking about the time period we are, the site was definitely a "Not for everyone" kind of place. I always felt it was downright unpleasant and very much lacking in accountability, and years later everyone I know who was involved with it finds it embarrassing and awkward. It was really more like the adolescent geek equivalent of "super embarrassing goth phase" and pretending that it's some sort of generational touchstone strikes me as pretty disingenuous.

Small Frozen Thing posted:

On the other hand, now THIS post...

Heresiarch posted:

I refuse to lie to myself and pretend that I don't find intense satisfaction in the public embarrassment of utter shitheels like Thiel (and Hulk Hogan, etc), even if the other side of my brain is telling me that Gawker is a gossip rag with exceedingly poor editorial ethics. I think the majority of people in this thread feel similarly; we are not rationalist Übermenschen who refuse to even acknowledge the contradiction and therefore feel the need to find a logical excuse for their instinctive emotional reactions.

I also believe in the sanctity of human life and the necessity of human dignity, while at the same time feeling very strongly that (for example) Margaret Thatcher deserved to die homeless and suffering in a ditch somewhere in Yorkshire.

Vast, contain multitudes, etc.

Cumslut1895 posted:

keep in mind that while they were trying to get a copy of hogans sex tape their were also running a crusade about the release of those celebrities nude photos. It's the hypocrisy that annoys me.

Heresiarch posted:

Yes, but Hulk Hogan is a wretched sac of fermented machismo who is on those tapes talking about how much he hates his daughter dating [euphemisms], which is the real reason he's so upset about them, and therefore the hypocrite in me, who I have come to embrace over the years, has no real problem with this. You can take the high road if you want, but don't pretend that some small part of you isn't gleeful that Gawker got to be your sin-eater, to be the transgressor while you get to stand back and enjoy the show with clean hands.

The world is a terrifying vortex of human suffering already, ruled over by the worst among us, and nothing can or will ever change that, so take these little pleasures where you can. Feel sympathy for the women whose photos were stolen, and laugh with your full heart at the flexing man-scrote now revealed to be the pathetic creature that he is. If this is hypocrisy then it's your loving birthright and you should wield it with both hands.

Cumslut1895 posted:

Honestly I hate true-believer hypocrisy worse than almost anything. I'm enjoying watching Gawker crash and burn while simultaneously publishing articles decrying bad piloting.
Not that hulk hogan isin't an insane parody of a comic book character

Tesseraction posted:

Would you say it's about ethics in journalism?

Cumslut1895 posted:

Doesn't mean I have to like gawker.

Tesseraction posted:

Well yes, but gleefully watching an entire organisation go down because a racist idiot sued it while bankrolled by a fascist idiot seems a bit much.

Cumslut1895 posted:

http://jezebel.com/294383/have-you-ever-beat-up-a-boyfriend-cause-uh-we-have

they're anti-domestic violence activists who gleefully admit to beating up their boyfreinds

The Vosgian Beast posted:

thats nice honey

Cumslut1895 posted:

http://jezebel.com/294383/have-you-ever-beat-up-a-boyfriend-cause-uh-we-have

they're anti-domestic violence activists who gleefully admit to beating up their boyfreinds

Tesseraction posted:

Okay, you found a lovely article from 2007. I'm not going to defend it. I am going to notice you knew about, and could reference, a 9-year old article that would definitely be listed on MRA sites.

divabot posted:

Is there some way that all of Gawker, Thiel and Hulk Hogan can lose? I want an outcome where they all lose big.

In other news, Neoreaction A Basilisk has made $11,000 so a bonus essays ebook for all backers is go! Projected to top $12k, so Phil is working on the TERFs essay.

Heresiarch posted:

Oh hey I wasted a perfectly good rant on a goddamn idiot.

Cumslut1895 posted:

Not an MRA. I did see it through a Reddit link though. The reason I remembered it is that it is aggressively hypocritical, which is something I hate.
do you think if asked the current editors they'd disown that article? something tells me no.

Tesseraction posted:

Again, I'm not doing to defend that article, and think it should be taken down. I would hope the editors would agree, but will admit that the fact they haven't already done so is damning.

Cumslut1895 posted:

to be fair, I understand the impulse to defend against any internal criticism, however valid it is. Jezebel is probably responsible for good things, and and accepting criticism for something they screwed up on would weaken their ability to do good. It's not great for society though.

Tesseraction posted:

I'm not saying Gawker shouldn't be criticised, I'm curious as to why you said you're enjoying this so much. I would be happy to see them financially punished, but you're gleeful to see an entire operation go out of business.

Cumslut1895 posted:

As far as I'm concerned, there willingness to abandon their beliefs the second the target is someone they don't like means they never believed what they said, and were just using it to gain something. in this case, media attention. I don't think the existence of groups like that is good for anyone, including women.

Tesseraction posted:

Your posts sound really well rehearsed.

Cumslut1895 posted:

As far as I'm concerned, there willingness to abandon their beliefs the second the target is someone they don't like means they never believed what they said, and were just using it to gain something. in this case, media attention. I don't think the existence of groups like that is good for anyone, including women.

Nessus posted:

Does this mean you still share your opinion of black people circa March of this year, then

Tesseraction posted:

Either way once Gawker has been killed over two manchildren throwing a tantrum I hope some other low-effort rag starts doggedly pursuing Thiel and has dumb baby actions.

Nessus posted:

Does this mean you still share your opinion of black people circa March of this year, then

Tesseraction posted:

Ahahaha hoooo boy yeah this dude really is calling for ethics in games journalism.

Tesseraction posted:

I bet you found that jezebel article on KotakuInAction

Cumslut1895 posted:

edit: I get what you're saying tho, reddit is all kinds of hosed up, which is why I stopped reading it

Tesseraction posted:

did you move to voat

divabot posted:

Cumslut1895 posted:

what did I say about black people?

Cumslut1895 posted:

Nor are Negros. This discussion is over.

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Tesseraction posted:

Has Sandifer given an estimated time frame between the KS finishing and expected delivery?

Cumslut1895 posted:

edit: is neoreaction: A basilbisc supporting the spergs or opposing them, I haven't been paying attention