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LMAO I just found out I screwed myself out of the underwater materia because you can't go back to the underwater reactor. Whoops!
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You can't? No you totally can. You can't get the HUGE Materia, as in the key item, if you miss it. But I swear you can go back down that elevator!
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Apr 10, 2018 02:23
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The White Dragon posted:You can't? No you totally can. You can't get the HUGE Materia, as in the key item, if you miss it. But I swear you can go back down that elevator! The guide I looked up said you can't go back to go get the chests, so I assumed you couldn't go back there... I guess I'll check it out for myself then!
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Apr 10, 2018 02:26
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Die Sexmonster! posted:I spontaneously decided to try this with one of the Pokemon games. (Maybe the only RPGs easier than FF.) I've done Type Ace challenges of Pokemon games where you only use one specific type for the whole game. It actually makes for a refreshingly fun time to figure out how to get around some of the gyms and stuff. I did Poison for X/Y and the first two gyms (Bug & Rock) were a goddamn nightmare but then the rest of the game was mostly fine. It was a weird feeling being roadblocked by the first gym, much less it being the Bug Gym.
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Apr 10, 2018 02:44
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DrNutt posted:The guide I looked up said you can't go back to go get the chests, so I assumed you couldn't go back there... I guess I'll check it out for myself then! IIRC, you Morph a monster that appears in the tunnel that leads to the Underwater Reactor. You can't get in the reactor itself again but that doesn't matter. You morph that monster into a Guidebook (?) and that gives you Underwater Materia when you trade it with the old man in Kalm. The White Dragon posted:Does Ruby Weapon get vulnerable when you hit it with Dazers? I know its default state has unmarked invincibility. Yeah you have to wait for it to put its hands in the ground the first time to make it vunlerable I think.
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Apr 10, 2018 02:46
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YoshiOfYellow posted:I've done Type Ace challenges of Pokemon games where you only use one specific type for the whole game. It actually makes for a refreshingly fun time to figure out how to get around some of the gyms and stuff. For us who grew up as part of the CharmanderCrew, being roadblocked by the first two gyms is a tradition. a crisp refreshing Moxie fucked around with this message at 03:28 on Apr 10, 2018 |
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Apr 10, 2018 02:47
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NikkolasKing posted:IIRC, you Morph a monster that appears in the tunnel that leads to the Underwater Reactor. You can't get in the reactor itself again but that doesn't matter. You morph that monster into a Guidebook (?) and that gives you Underwater Materia when you trade it with the old man in Kalm. Apparently that woman just stays in the elevator after you murder the shinra dudes and just waits for people to come along and need to go up or down.
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Apr 10, 2018 03:09
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NikkolasKing posted:Yeah you have to wait for it to put its hands in the ground the first time to make it vunlerable I think. It only does that when only 1 party member is alive. You have to solo it which is why Vincent + Hades + Added Effect makes it free. If you enter the fight with only Vincent alive it immediately puts its tentacles in vulnerable position. I only specify Vincent because he has the highest possible magic stat. You can really use anyone.
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Apr 10, 2018 03:13
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Mega64 posted:Solo Runs are kinda weird because half the time the game ends up easier since the one character is getting 3-5x the experience as normal (depending on the game's normal part size, of course) and the extra levels end up boosting the offense enough to wipe the floor with regular encounters. Of course, the main challenge is surviving all the instant death attacks that inevitably pop up, and doing the runs with weaker characters/jobs. It's apparently possible to beat FFX with solo Rikku, no leveling up, no overdrives and no no encounters. The dark aeons can also be done without leveling up. The amount of grinding required for either seems ridiculous. I heard Anima described as "understatted" after 200 hours spent increasing her stats.
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Apr 10, 2018 04:57
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Elephant Ambush posted:It only does that when only 1 party member is alive. You have to solo it which is why Vincent + Hades + Added Effect makes it free. This advice is confusing me. 1. Summons can only be cast once per level of the materia until you master it. So are you saying you should master this summon you get late in the game before doing the fight? 2. The Added Effect materia in your weapon allows you to inflict statuses with your basic attack based on the paired materia, or you can use it in your armor to resist the stats. It doesn't do anything when you're casting summons.
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Apr 10, 2018 05:14
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lobster22221 posted:JRPGs were a mistake. Yeah but they got pretty good music and we get some pretty good cheesecake out of it.
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Apr 10, 2018 06:07
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Elephant Ambush posted:That... doesn't sound easy at all. How do guarantee a character getting exactly 7677 hp? Get yourself down to a really low hp, use the accessory that gives you hp as you walk, up to 144hp. Then go into a battle and cast demi 2 on yourself to halve your health to 77hp. Use potions and high potions to get yourself up to 7677.
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Apr 10, 2018 06:09
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seiferguy posted:Get yourself down to a really low hp, use the accessory that gives you hp as you walk, up to 144hp. Then go into a battle and cast demi 2 on yourself to halve your health to 77hp. Use potions and high potions to get yourself up to 7677. lobster22221 posted:JRPGs were a mistake.
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Apr 10, 2018 07:14
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That's not that unreasonable? You could probably do it in like five minutes.
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Apr 10, 2018 07:43
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bloom posted:It's apparently possible to beat FFX with solo Rikku, no leveling up, no overdrives and no no encounters. The dark aeons can also be done without leveling up. Misread the no overdrive part and also am falling back into the black hole of the insane number of FFX challenge faqs Ohtsam fucked around with this message at 07:58 on Apr 10, 2018 |
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Apr 10, 2018 07:51
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Fister Roboto posted:That's not that unreasonable? You could probably do it in like five minutes. I wouldn't call it difficult or time consuming, but I would agree that it's pretty obtuse in a game where you typically don't use demi on yourself or use potions to get an exact HP amount, and I wouldn't blame a casual player for not thinking of doing something so specific like that. Figuring out that part really isn't easy imo.
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JRPGs were meant to be hilariously broken. And yeah it isn't that long to do. Edit: casual players arguably also aren't taking on superbosses. seiferguy fucked around with this message at 15:41 on Apr 10, 2018 |
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Apr 10, 2018 15:39
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So I played some PSP FF1 and wow it's so much easier than the NES original. Like wow. I only have to grind a little bit for money in each new area to buy some stuff and every boss so far has been a total pushover.
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Apr 10, 2018 17:55
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DrNutt posted:Does this imply that Ultima is not actually optional or something? nononono. I was making a small joke. While Ultima is optional (and as noted was the only optional weapon in the Japanese version), most people don't refer to Ultima when they talk about the "optional weapons". Ultima is no harder than any other of the final bosses, isn't too hard to find, and doesn't have any weird (or at least radically weird) gimmicks. Emerald and Ruby are in a league of their own, which is why most people are referring to them when talking about the optional weapons. mauman fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Apr 10, 2018 |
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Apr 10, 2018 18:35
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mauman posted:nononono. Oh gotcha. Where do I find them, btw? I know Emerald is the one below da sea, but there's one just chilling above a crater, and I have yet to see a third.
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Apr 10, 2018 18:36
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DrNutt posted:Oh gotcha. Where do I find them, btw? I know Emerald is the one below da sea, but there's one just chilling above a crater, and I have yet to see a third. Ultima is the one around the crater. Ruby is chilling in the sand around a certain Golden casino  Also the rewards for Emerald and Ruby are not unique (and in the case of Ruby, most likely pointless), where Ultima actually gives something unique. Emerald and Ruby are mostly there for bragging rights. Though admittedly Emerald's reward is at least mauman fucked around with this message at 18:45 on Apr 10, 2018 |
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Apr 10, 2018 18:39
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mauman posted:Ultima is the one around the crater. Ruby is chilling in the sand around a certain Golden casino Yeah, I am trying to figure out if it's more trouble to just defeat the weapons or do the grindy poo poo required to get the gold chocobo. Since I plan on grinding to 99 for the achievement anyway I figure I'll just take on the weapons when I'm superleveled.
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Apr 10, 2018 18:53
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DrNutt posted:Yeah, I am trying to figure out if it's more trouble to just defeat the weapons or do the grindy poo poo required to get the gold chocobo. Since I plan on grinding to 99 for the achievement anyway I figure I'll just take on the weapons when I'm superleveled. No play through of ff7 is a true play through without forcing chocobos to breed.  
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Apr 10, 2018 18:59
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mauman posted:No play through of ff7 is a true play through without forcing chocobos to breed. GF walks in "god drat are you still playing this game?" "Yeah babe I can't get these chocobos to gently caress yet."
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Apr 10, 2018 19:01
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DrNutt posted:Yeah, I am trying to figure out if it's more trouble to just defeat the weapons or do the grindy poo poo required to get the gold chocobo. Since I plan on grinding to 99 for the achievement anyway I figure I'll just take on the weapons when I'm superleveled. Gold chocobos are like a afternoon of work if you have a guide.
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Apr 10, 2018 19:07
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If you're gonna grind for 99, you may as well grind materia while you're at it. Get the Apocalypse for Cloud and the Scimitar for Cid for triple materia growth.
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Apr 10, 2018 19:16
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mauman posted:Ultima is the one around the crater. Ruby is chilling in the sand around a certain Golden casino Ruby also doesn't appear until Ultimate's been murked. I don't really know what the logic of that is, but hey.
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Apr 10, 2018 19:18
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seiferguy posted:If you're gonna grind for 99, you may as well grind materia while you're at it. Get the Apocalypse for Cloud and the Scimitar for Cid for triple materia growth. I'm grinding my materia too, currently working on limit breaks and equipping everyone involved with all the materia they can hold. Of course there's probably some op materia I'm missing because I didn't steal at the right time from an obscure rare enemy or something. jrpgs! Hmm, this guide says to beat emerald weapon I should have mime and final attack. How do I get mime materia? Oh, I need a green chocobo. So I guess I will have to make these birds gently caress after all. What about final attack? quote:First, you must have Omnislash, W-Summon and Cloud's Ultima Weapon before the Secret Duel will be unlocked for you at the Battle Square. After having all 3 of these, equip the Ultima Weapon and talk to the girl in the Battle Square and she will say something about how great a fighter you must be and how you need a bigger challenge or something along those lines. Only then will you have the opportunity to fight in the Secret Duel. Only Cloud is allowed to participate and if you defeat all 8 enemies you receive the Final Attack Materia as a prize. Subsequent victories reward you will other prizes, mostly useless items, but you can win a Ribbon as well. lobster22221 posted:JRPGs were a mistake. Professor Beetus fucked around with this message at 19:46 on Apr 10, 2018 |
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Apr 10, 2018 19:42
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mauman posted:Ultima is the one around the crater. Ruby is chilling in the sand around a certain Golden casino To clarify, the crater is on the Midgar continent near Junon. Didn't it actually start off as a mountain at the beginning of the game? I forget when it's destroyed.
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Apr 10, 2018 19:44
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Doesn't Ultima also change locations a few times tbf?
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Apr 10, 2018 19:51
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After you fight him he flies around the map and you have to run into him with the high wind.
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DrNutt posted:I'm grinding my materia too, currently working on limit breaks and equipping everyone involved with all the materia they can hold. Of course there's probably some op materia I'm missing because I didn't steal at the right time from an obscure rare enemy or something. jrpgs!  you can morph Tonberries in the North Crater for Ribbons so gently caress doing those extra battles more than once.
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DeadButDelicious posted:
I was thinking more about getting final attack. At this point I have all the final limits and I think I'm just going to beat the game and keep a save around if I feel like working on some of this optional stuff when I get bored, but I think generally life's too short for JRPG super grinding.
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DrNutt posted:I'm grinding my materia too, currently working on limit breaks and equipping everyone involved with all the materia they can hold. Of course there's probably some op materia I'm missing because I didn't steal at the right time from an obscure rare enemy or something. jrpgs! As far as I can remember, materia isn't stolen at any point. I think the only missable materia that can truly gently caress you if you miss it is W-item.
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DeadButDelicious posted:
I did this once and it was so painful I will never do it again. LOL at this. My Emerald Weapon clear was done right before beating the game and everyone was at 99with a zillion materia. I gave Yuffie her ultimate weapon and gave her the materia where she takes hits for people and 6 or 7 counter attack materia. However many would fit. Then I set her for max attack and max crit damage. Then she kind of auto-piloted the kill. I think I may have healed a couple times.
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DrNutt posted:At this point I have all the final limits and I think I'm just going to beat the game and keep a save around if I feel like working on some of this optional stuff when I get bored, but I think generally life's too short for JRPG super grinding. For what its worth, neither Ruby nor Emerald require anything super-fancy to beat. As mentioned before, Ruby is very susceptible to being paralysed and 99 Dazers is more than you need to tear through its 800k HP. Everyone seems to forget, though, that Emerald is explicitly weak to Gravity damage. You don't need W-Magic for it, but thanks to that weakness to it and his absurdly high HP, Demi spells are really good for that fight. It's genuinely quicker to slam down a bunch of Demi 1s than it is to W-Summon KotR and Mime forever.
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Also of note is that All 7 Fever affects your limit breaks as long as you still have 7777 HP, which take action priority, so between the initial attack rush and dropping all your limit breaks, you can get Emerald Weapon down to <250k hp in like a minute. gently caress gravity magic
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Apr 10, 2018 23:25
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The White Dragon posted:gently caress gravity magic I only have half a gently caress.
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Mega64 posted:I only have half a gently caress. Well now it's down to a quarter.
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