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MassRafTer posted:Everyone has known it was fake for 100 years. In the 1910s you had the Manhattan Opera House tournament with masked men and dumb angles and storylines and everyone knew it was a work. As has been mentioned crowds had rejected various things for 50 years before that. But even looking forward in the 80s a poll was conducted in the Mid Atlantic region which asked if wrestling was real and only 3% of respondents said it was. So while people were getting all that wild heat and bleeding 5 nights a week in Crocket Promotions everyone knew it was fake. Cornette doesn't want to admit that people threw batteries at him because he's so easy to hate
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Dick Bastardly posted:How many wrestlers were, are, or will become porn stars? Chocoball Makai was a guy who worked FMW right before it closed and he was a porn star. He was called Chocoball because his balls were really dark and looked like chocolate ...I guess that means Mr. Gannousuke is also a porn star because he was in an program with Hayabusa where the heel GM gave him Hayabusa's mask and gimmick, so he starred in a porno while wearing the Hayabusa mask to tarnish his legacy Smoking Crow fucked around with this message at 05:33 on Dec 4, 2018 |
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Bigass Moth posted:It was Brad Maddox and Xavier Woods in her videos. Yeah, weirdly for a cokehead, Del Rio hasn't done something that particular sort of scumfuck yet. Just everything else. But I guess he draws the line at uploading revenge porn, or he had coke dick every time he tried to shoot (take that phrasing as you will), who the gently caress knows
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The Cameo posted:Yeah, weirdly for a cokehead, Del Rio hasn't done something that particular sort of scumfuck yet.
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Awesome Kong did some of those apartment wrestling star videos but didn’t appear naked. I think Daphne did similar stuff.
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DangerDummy! posted:I know it was 50/50 with the kids during WrestleMania 3 as far as believing it was real. The only adults I knew back then who thought it was real were my aunt and uncle, but they were a couple of hayseeds. I remember my grandpa getting pissed that I was watching wrestling because it was fake and disgusting, and then blowing up when HHH beat up Earl Hebner and ranting about how low it was to attack a ref so I don't actually know what he knew about it
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davidbix posted:I never even got the impression Maddox uploaded revenge porn, though. I thought his iCloud got hacked. I mean, that was what happened, yeah I’m just saying Del Rio would probably upload it himself because Del Rio’s a massive rear end in a top hat He just somehow hasn’t, even though if he’s like any of the other abusive boyfriends I experienced my friends dating, he probably had some recording of sex they had that he would threaten to expose to the world during big arguments
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Aesop Poprock posted:I remember my grandpa getting pissed that I was watching wrestling because it was fake and disgusting, and then blowing up when HHH beat up Earl Hebner and ranting about how low it was to attack a ref so I don't actually know what he knew about it My granddad loved wrestling but used to always tell me,"Well it's all a load of rubbish but I don't care, it's fun to watch!" 
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Jerusalem posted:My granddad loved wrestling but used to always tell me,"Well it's all a load of rubbish but I don't care, it's fun to watch!" For some reason the only time I remember him enjoying it was when Ric Flair did the musical chairs segment and he was laughing his rear end off going "Who is this old fart??"
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My grandpa hates modern wrestling because it looks fake, not like Buddy Rogers and Lou Thesz
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Smoking Crow posted:My grandpa hates modern wrestling because it looks fake, not like Buddy Rogers and Lou Thesz
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Dick Bastardly posted:How many wrestlers were, are, or will become porn stars? WWE Hall of Famer Donald Trump 
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Jerusalem posted:My granddad loved wrestling but used to always tell me,"Well it's all a load of rubbish but I don't care, it's fun to watch!" Yeah, my grandad probably knew it was fake but religiously watched World of Sport at 4pm every Sunday. Called it The Holy Hour.
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Bigass Moth posted:It was Brad Maddox and Xavier Woods in her videos. I wonder if the one I saw with the cummy title was a part of the Maddox/Xavier sexcapade or perhaps some other dude 
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Btw I went back and watched some 50s stuff and my grandpa has great taste in wrestling, Lou Thesz and Buddy Rogers are great
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LividLiquid posted:Cornette mostly seems to think that more or less everybody knew something wasn't on the level, but the truth wasn't paraded in front of them so everybody kind of went along with it. Cornette saying that people in Louisiana in the mid-80s "believed everything that was happening" is right out, though. But there's no point getting worked up about it; Cornette is playing a character for his podcast audience these days.
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Dick Bastardly posted:I wonder if the one I saw with the cummy title was a part of the Maddox/Xavier sexcapade or perhaps some other dude Maddox
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When I was watching in the 80s as a 10 year old about, I knew it was ridiculous but I sort of thought the characters were doing it for psychological advantage, like Brutus was trying to intimidate people by cutting hair. But the physics of it, I didn't understand at all, as far asI remember I thought it was like a sort of combative ballet, where the wrestlers accepted that if they were put in a certain position, then they had to go a certain way in response. Then whoever hit their finish was allowed win, because those were the rules. It was convoluted as hell.
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The wrestling/porn talk makes me think of this time Wrestlecrap inducted a porno called The Young and the Wrestling. I mainly remember it because towards the end of the article, they had an audio clip of the main guy cutting an angry promo and it was shockingly really good. Like way better than most of the WWE roster at the time. Not enough wrestlers threaten to tear off their opponent's dick and wear it as a bowtie.
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Gumball Gumption posted:Maddox lol cool
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Every non-fan boomer I've talked to still believes the Kaufman-Lawler punch on Letterman was real
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EugeneJ posted:Every non-fan boomer I've talked to still believes the Kaufman-Lawler punch on Letterman was real It was a slap and it was definitely real unless you mean they thought they were actually mad at each other. Lawler apparently hit Jim Carey even harder on the set of Man on the Moon because Carey was horrible to work with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv73yzYuE_M
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MassRafTer posted:In the 1910s you had the Manhattan Opera House tournament with masked men and dumb angles and storylines and everyone knew it was a work. As has been mentioned crowds had rejected various things for 50 years before that.
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Dick Bastardly posted:can confirm, he came on the WWE Women's Championship belt like some weird tribute or something. Pretty neat imo It was the NXT Women's Championship belt
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Rubber Soul posted:It was the NXT Women's Championship belt Ah that's right. I was a little... distracted at the time
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Dick Bastardly posted:Ah that's right. I was a little... distracted at the time Good story
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Halloween Jack posted:To be fair, when I watched during the Attitude Era, I knew it was worked but I wondered how much of the storylines represented real backstage heat, and things like that. That's the kind of thing Cornette said he would have played on if he'd booked the Invasion.
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My dad likes luchadores and AJ Styles and thinks Baron Corbin is boring and that his character is an oil baron.
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...His entrance did used to be oil creeping down the ramp.
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dave's told this story about the charlotte newspaper running a poll in the early '80s asking whether or not wrestling was predetermined. ole anderson was the booker at the time and was apparently genuinely shocked that people knew it wasn't a shoot.
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A lot of wrestlers run with the narrative that they, themselves, had no idea it was a work until their first day of wrestling school (or even first day on a show). While I'm sure there's no shortage of dumb wrestlers, it's clearly a bit of a tall tale.
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VJeff posted:My dad likes luchadores and AJ Styles and thinks Baron Corbin is boring and that his character is an oil baron. That would honestly be a huge improvement
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My grandmother and I used to watch wrestling a lot and she ended up positively hating Vince McMahon because of the various storylines with him. I told her it was all scripted but she was like "yeah but he chooses to do that. Nobody chooses to do that unless they meant it." Maybe a bit of a flawed argument overall but a much older me realizes she was spot-on about Vince.
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VJeff posted:My dad likes luchadores and AJ Styles and thinks Baron Corbin is boring and that his character is an oil baron. i think your dad just watches newLegacy
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NikkolasKing posted:My grandmother and I used to watch wrestling a lot and she ended up positively hating Vince McMahon because of the various storylines with him. I told her it was all scripted but she was like "yeah but he chooses to do that. Nobody chooses to do that unless they meant it." Your grandma was right
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Reminder that Sable sued Vince McMahon for sexual harassment and that he hired her back so that he could make out and grope her on-camera.
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Yeah, at no point of Vince booking his "Mr. McMahon" character could anyone come away thinking "that man has a good and healthy self image and moral compass."
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Thauros posted:dave's told this story about the charlotte newspaper running a poll in the early '80s asking whether or not wrestling was predetermined. ole anderson was the booker at the time and was apparently genuinely shocked that people knew it wasn't a shoot. Wotta mark.
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The real kayfabe was that the spectators pretended to believe it to make wrestlers proud of themselves. Just like adults playing with kids.
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Kennel posted:The real kayfabe was that the spectators pretended to believe it to make wrestlers proud of themselves. Just like adults playing with kids.
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