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I had a side job my first year of grad school processing immunization records in the school's medical office. Was fun telling people that they can't live in the dorms because they haven't had MMR yet (thankfully there was very few of them, anti-vax poo poo hasn't made it to Alabama yet I guess). You also had people bitching that it was racist they need a TB test because they're from <3rd world country>.
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Whenever I see kids with amber teething necklaces I always worry that the kids might give my kids some horrible biblical disease because there's no chance those kids are vaccinated.
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Nov 1, 2016 06:20
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Soulex posted:People who don't vaccinate their kids deserve to have them taken away. I was talking to my doc with my wife about giving our kids the vaccine and she mentioned that a kid had died earlier that day. This is sadly and depressingly more common. 
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Nov 1, 2016 14:47
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not caring here posted:The only downside to vaccinations is that if you're like me and get an immigration physical and don't have your immunization records on hand then you get them all at once. 15 minutes later and running a fever that had me bed ridden for just over 48 hours and feeling hosed up for about a week after that. Yup, that happened to me too. Now we have double autism!
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Nov 1, 2016 15:09
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I've got the triple autism because the army gave me another round because lol, shot records.
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Nov 1, 2016 15:37
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Soulex posted:People who don't vaccinate their kids deserve to have them taken away. I was talking to my doc with my wife about giving our kids the vaccine and she mentioned that a kid had died earlier that day. The flu isn't exactly something we've eliminated outside of the non-vax population, dude, I'm sorry the kid died but is there some exigent circumstances here? Kids do not normally die from the flu -- what else was going on? The flu vaccine formulation (proper term escapes me) is, every year, a hedged guess against the strains likely to prevail during the upcoming season. In other words, we don't sustain herd immunity with it. Sorry to poo poo on your argument.
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Nov 1, 2016 15:53
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canyoneer posted:Whenever I see kids with amber teething necklaces. I didn't even realize this is a thing. There's no way in hell 90% of them aren't tinted resin.
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Nov 1, 2016 16:09
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Zeris posted:The flu isn't exactly something we've eliminated outside of the non-vax population, dude, I'm sorry the kid died but is there some exigent circumstances here? Kids do not normally die from the flu -- what else was going on? The flu vaccine formulation (proper term escapes me) is, every year, a hedged guess against the strains likely to prevail during the upcoming season. In other words, we don't sustain herd immunity with it. Sorry to poo poo on your argument. It's not uncommon for kids to die from flu complications, and it is typically because they are unvaccinated. Even if the vaccine is for the wrong strain of flu it will still mitigate the symptoms. Generally the parents wait until the kid is tremendously dehydrated and on death's door before they realize "aw poo poo gotta go to the hospital". Kids take a long time to go into decompensated shock but once they get there it can be very difficult to pull them back from the brink.
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Nov 1, 2016 16:11
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Vengarr posted:It's not uncommon for kids to die from flu complications, and it is typically because they are unvaccinated. Even if the vaccine is for the wrong strain of flu it will still mitigate the symptoms. This. Just because something is seasonal doesn't mean that it isn't dangerous. You forget the millions that died before the vaccine and the hundreds of thousands (according to WHO) that die annually Yeah the vaccine is a Hail Mary, but it ends up in the end zone more often than not. There are different strains of the virus and they are the strains that professionals feel will be prevalent that year. The good news is, is it doesn't matter what strains is going on that year when you were already vaccinated from 3 years ago and it had that strain in it. Now do that every year. Point is, Id rather my kids take the vaccine.
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Nov 1, 2016 17:10
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Flu vaccines usually wear off within a year
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Nov 1, 2016 17:17
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Zeris posted:The flu isn't exactly something we've eliminated outside of the non-vax population, dude, I'm sorry the kid died but is there some exigent circumstances here? Kids do not normally die from the flu -- what else was going on? The flu vaccine formulation (proper term escapes me) is, every year, a hedged guess against the strains likely to prevail during the upcoming season. In other words, we don't sustain herd immunity with it. Sorry to poo poo on your argument. The issue at large being that you will still generally respond BETTER to the flu with vaccinations and a history of exposure to vaccines versus none at all, and it can be lethal if your body is not used to it. Tunicate posted:Flu vaccines usually wear off within a year No, that's not how it works. The flu strain changes, the vaccine is not wearing off. Your body will still have antibodys for that strain flu even decades later, but the strain being passed around evolves rapidly.
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Soulex posted:This. Just because something is seasonal doesn't mean that it isn't dangerous. You forget the millions that died before the vaccine and the hundreds of thousands (according to WHO) that die annually The upper limit for the flu seen so far was the spanish flu, which was the most lethal part of WWI. Flu can result in some real nasty stuff.
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Nov 1, 2016 18:03
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CommieGIR posted:The issue at large being that you will still generally respond BETTER to the flu with vaccinations and a history of exposure to vaccines versus none at all, and it can be lethal if your body is not used to it. Exactly. Goddamn enlisted. I have a friend that actively loving horks that poo poo out as soon as she sniffs it. xthetenth posted:The upper limit for the flu seen so far was the spanish flu, which was the most lethal part of WWI. Flu can result in some real nasty stuff. Yeah, I had to do all types of research for it and holy gently caress. It's like when you go back and look at fatalities in wars and see that a gently caress load came from disease. Tunicate posted:Flu vaccines usually wear off within a year What. No.
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Nov 1, 2016 18:25
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CommieGIR posted:No, that's not how it works. The flu strain changes, the vaccine is not wearing off. Your body will still have antibodys for that strain flu even decades later, but the strain being passed around evolves rapidly. It isn't just the flu strain drifting. Your antibody response drops off over time - at the six month mark your serum antibody titer is already half what it was at peak. Or just ask the CDC The CDC posted:Why do I need a flu vaccine every year?
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Nov 1, 2016 18:26
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Tunicate posted:Or just ask the CDC CDC is in the pockets of big pharm. I get all the real vaccination info from mommy blogger in her autism news section.
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Nov 1, 2016 20:16
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xthetenth posted:The upper limit for the flu seen so far was the spanish flu, which was the most lethal part of WWI. Flu can result in some real nasty stuff. This was true of every American war until WWII. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18192771
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Nov 1, 2016 23:23
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Soulex posted:You're an adult, do what you want, but don't force your bullshit "there is proof" crap. No there isn't. No loving link to autism. And potentially killing your kids is stupid. Same with the faith healers "God will heal them if they are to be saved." Or maybe your god sent a bunch of goddamn doctors with technology to save your kid and you are too evangelical to see through that poo poo. I used to have a guy with me who's wife was a 'Christian Scientist' AKA they don't believe in the strange witch doctor magic that is modern medicine. I always had to make sure when his kid was sick that he snuck them behind the spouse's back for the kid's benefit. I shudder to think what would have happened had the kid died. Edit: Don't stick your dick in crazy. Even more importantly, if you do stick your dick in crazy, don't have kids.
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Nov 2, 2016 00:06
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Or get a power of attorney
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Derek Dominoe posted:This was true of every American war until WWII. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18192771 drat, now I really want to read this article.
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Nov 2, 2016 21:58
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thetechnoloser posted:I used to have a guy with me who's wife was a 'Christian Scientist' AKA they don't believe in the strange witch doctor magic that is modern medicine. I always had to make sure when his kid was sick that he snuck them behind the spouse's back for the kid's benefit. I shudder to think what would have happened had the kid died. Knocking up a crazy person was my biggest fear and I can't imagine trying to be a father to a child who's mother was any sort of anti intellectual.
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Nov 2, 2016 22:51
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So apparently something happened and NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO HAVE ANY DRINKS. Not like, no drinks out of the galley/DFAC, they removed all soda, Gatorades, milk, and fuckin bottled water.
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Nov 3, 2016 05:39
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Nov 3, 2016 05:59
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Somebody poisoned the water hole!
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Nov 3, 2016 06:00
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Sarge I rotted the teeth out of mah head! *Removes all beverages
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Nov 3, 2016 06:01
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Thank you GiP goons who are still in for regular reminders of why I'm glad I'm loving out. AHAHAHHAHA
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Nov 3, 2016 06:09
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Mike-o posted:Thank you GiP goons who are still in for regular reminders of why I'm glad I'm loving out.
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Nov 3, 2016 06:32
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$5 it involves semen.
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It's poo. It's always poo.
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Mike-o posted:Thank you GiP goons who are still in for regular reminders of why I'm glad I'm loving out.
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Wasabi the J posted:So apparently something happened and NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO HAVE ANY DRINKS. Please tell me this is something reasonable like some greenfor dude injecting poison into milk cartons or something in Afghanistan/Iraq and not what I imagine it is I imagine it's some sort of massive overreaction to something stupid stateside
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Allegedly some jacknut took an extra drink or two from the Galley, and the base commander gave them hell. Well, that idiot decides to tell a full-bird captain SMDFTB over some pocket sodas. Now we all bear the burden of some idiots sin. I hate this stupid place and I hate the military. Have fun Cyks.
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Nov 3, 2016 09:45
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Hahaha I love every part of that but the best part is my unemployment claim goes out tomorrow. Life is good.
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Arbitrary and confusing group punishment has to be part of the standard curriculum at OCS and Staff Academy or something. "And now finally, group punishment. Use it whenever you can. The less you explain it, the better. You definitely want at least 2-3 different theories per platoon for why you've instated a new policy."
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Nov 3, 2016 12:25
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Wasabi the J posted:So apparently something happened and NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO HAVE ANY DRINKS. There has to be a health and welfare reg that says that they have to give you drinks with your food.
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Wasabi the J posted:Allegedly some jacknut took an extra drink or two from the Galley, and the base commander gave them hell. Well, that idiot decides to tell a full-bird captain SMDFTB over some pocket sodas. It's...perfect.
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bulletsponge13 posted:There has to be a health and welfare reg that says that they have to give you drinks with your food. What? Dude. Have you forgotten where you are?
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Wasabi the J posted:So apparently something happened and NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO HAVE ANY DRINKS. I remember when they got rid of canned soda at Kadena and everyone was saying "they stopped it because the cans are classified as 1.2 explosives because the cans can explode", so they can't fly with them on airplanes. I'm not talking about one person but everyone was saying this and would argue with me when I said how stupid that was.
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chemosh6969 posted:I remember when they got rid of canned soda at Kadena and everyone was saying "they stopped it because the cans are classified as 1.2 explosives because the cans can explode", so they can't fly with them on airplanes. I'm not talking about one person but everyone was saying this and would argue with me when I said how stupid that was. That's on the list of "dumbest poo poo I've ever heard" and given that I was in the Air Force, that's a pretty big deal
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bulletsponge13 posted:There has to be a health and welfare reg that says that they have to give you drinks with your food. They allow drinks in glasses in the galley so juice and tap water (with cucumbers!) are still served. Its just retarded with all the food here. Months ago they stopped serving to go plates from the galley, then they stopped serving bottled water, under the auspices of environmental protection (burning Styrofoam is bad). Effectively all this did was end hot chow to go basewide, because you can just leave the galley, go around the corner to the grab and go, where you can still get cold chow in a Styrofoam box, and get a bottle of water there. They also have Styrofoam cups in the galley which you are FORBIDDEN TO USE IN THE GALLEY but you can take to go, but there's that warning that all drinks must be consumed IN THE GALLEY. Its the most pointless set of gestures that have only served to annoy most and stops none of the excesses. Also they are having a spoon amnesty drive because we don't have any more teaspoons. Wasabi the J fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Nov 3, 2016 |
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as a taxpayer i demand to know what happened to the spoons
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