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SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

nine-gear crow posted:

Troi/Riker/Worf was a love triangle for nearly half of TNG but they were never allowed to actually develop or commit to any aspect of the relationship because TNG was an episodic syndicated status quo change-agnostic show. It looked like Worf was ultimately going to be the one they went with for Deanna at the end of TNG, but then Worf went to Deep Space Nine and TNG movie writers went "gently caress it, just have Riker and Troi get back together."

I think it was more, at the very beginning they established that Troi and Riker had feelings for eachother, did almost nothing with it for the entirety of the show except for Riker occasionally getting jealous when Troi had her one-off ill-fated romances, and then towards the end of the show, writers in search of something for Worf to do started pairing him with Troi to help show his softer side.

As opposed to Crusher and Picard, who had feelings established at the start and the series did nothing with, but Picard did have a whole lengthy developing relationship with her son.

TNG had the sexual energy of a piece of toast.

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skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?
TNG had sexual energy, but nobody liked it, it freaked them out. So they stopped doing it

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



Sexual energy on TNG:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksR1ZCfpg3A&t=53s

Such a weird scene.

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

zoux posted:

I'm trying to think of good romantic cast relationships from Trek and I got Riker/Troi (though I'm not sure they were officially together during the series' run),

They're on a date in Menage a Trois

Also I remember reading that the actors generally treated their characters as if they were currently in a relationship

Mx.
Dec 16, 2006

I'm a great fan! When I watch TV I'm always saying "That's political correctness gone mad!"
Why thankyew!


quark and odo was the best relationship

That DICK!
Sep 28, 2010

i thought from the first few eps of ds9 that the show would be roughly 50% star trek nonsense and 50% quark/odo cheers and while i ended up loving the show i'd have loved it more if they stuck to that formula

thotsky
Jun 7, 2005

hot to trot
Riker and Troi were soul mates, or something like that, drifted apart due to Rikers ambition, got reunited but settled into more of an open, but very close friends with implied benefits kind of situation.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Imzadi…

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
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Mind if I gently caress this guy?

I chose him for you already. Call it a gift.

You sly dog, Imzadi.

Keep me on the line... during.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Brawnfire posted:

Mind if I gently caress this guy?

I chose him for you already. Call it a gift.

You sly dog, Imzadi.

Keep me on the line... during.


Deanna speed dials Starfleet Human Resources immediately after Riker leaves the room.

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
An alright dude.
There's a whole starbase of HR just dedicated to Riker. 11% of Star Trek computer usage is processing reports.

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

Poke Chop posted:

Im pretty sure that every instance of worf and troi is a psychic fantasy (eye of the beholder) alt universe (parallells) or alt future (all good things). The closest they ever came to flirting in normal spacetime was when she was possessed by a ghost and threw him across ten forward.

That time when everyone de-evolved, Worf bit Troi on the face because he wanted to mate with her.

Which doesn't exactly disprove your point, of course. :)

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



thotsky posted:

Riker and Troi were soul mates, or something like that, drifted apart due to Rikers ambition, got reunited but settled into more of an open, but very close friends with implied benefits kind of situation.
Riker certainly takes full advantage of this

Instant Sunrise
Apr 12, 2007


The manger babies don't have feelings. You said it yourself.
Tonight on Unsolved Mysteries….

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A Russian spy breaks into the most secure aircraft carrier in the U.S. Navy, and vanishes without a trace…

CPColin
Sep 9, 2003

Big ol' smile.

FlamingLiberal posted:

Riker certainly takes full advantage of this

Except never with any kissing since he grew the beard, per Insurrection

Poke Chop
Apr 27, 2008

Powered Descent posted:

That time when everyone de-evolved, Worf bit Troi on the face because he wanted to mate with her.

Which doesn't exactly disprove your point, of course. :)

Thanks for reminding me of that!
I figure, sometime after parallels, worf approached deana with a complicated klingon ritual and she just laughed and said she was free saturday. To her it was drinks and a quick shag, but you know how worf gets...

That's why worf asked for reassignment to ds9. And why he got absolutely blasted at her wedding.

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

nine-gear crow posted:

Deanna speed dials Starfleet Human Resources immediately after Riker leaves the room.

Human resources?

Gravitas Shortfall
Jul 17, 2007

Utility is seven-eighths Proximity.


BonHair posted:

Human resources?

They have to have a special department for humans because of how much they keep loving with things

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Gravitas Shortfall posted:

They have to have a special department for humans because of how much they keep loving things

fixed that for you

CPColin
Sep 9, 2003

Big ol' smile.
All of the complaints about Riker are that he asked for affirmative consent and left when the person answered, "But you already have my implied consent!"

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
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Lucky for you that's what I Rike
That's what I Rike
Lucky for you that's what I Rike
That's what I Rike

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

BonHair posted:

Human resources?

The very name is racist

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

zoux posted:

The very name is racist

The name actually just implies they're the ones to to be eaten if trapped on a desert island.

Modern capitalism is just that kind of forward thinking morbid like that.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

dr_rat posted:

The name actually just implies they're the ones to to be eaten if trapped on a desert island.

Modern capitalism is just that kind of forward thinking morbid like that.

If you could only hear yourselves talk

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH
The past few pages of this thread have been pretty horny so I suppose it's only appropriate to say that I am watching Enterprise now.

Lots has been written over the years about the color-saturated decontamination in the first episode, and how determined T'Pol's nipples are to pierce that thin fabric, but I feel compelled to contribute a gay male persepctive: Trip's genitals are snugly supported and presented forward by that underwear such that I could make out the outline of his penis. No freeze frame tricks, she just bends down to moisturize his legs and :monocle::flaccid: Anyhow, that sequence is so goddamn stupid because I don't think a viewer has ever made out a word of dialogue that was said. It would have been an okay sequence probably if they had just stuck to the fixed camera and not cut to Michael Bay camera angles leering down the crevices of their skimpy clothes.

Also it's different that they ran into one of the weirder places I've seen in Trek thus far (that echo room) with twenty minutes left in the episode and then ran away without learning what was happening with it. I know this series is ultimately a disappointment to many people, but the first episode spent a lot of time promising the viewer to not lean as heavily on certain Trek writing aides as previous series, but then they noped out of their first mystery to focus on the escort mission. I can understand it but it does feel like the NX is a smaller proof-of-concept vehicle meant to run around the local cosmos and get it's crew home alive, and not the kind of ship that's going to carry a deployment of scientists like the civilians on Any Other Enterprise But Mostly The D.

EDIT: And since my other other Trek long-watch is DS9, the obvious reuses of Defiant sets kind of hurts inside.

Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 09:00 on May 25, 2022

davidspackage
May 16, 2007

Nap Ghost
D'you suppose the set for the decontamination scenes was just freezing, or

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH

davidspackage posted:

D'you suppose the set for the decontamination scenes was just freezing, or

Now I’m just imagining one of those two-bit video filters where you could have that scene play in a variety of Trek location backgrounds. The whole scene is Weird AF but since the actors are twenty years older (and one is mega wealthy) I don’t feel as bad treating it like a car wreck to go past mouth agape.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
this is the scene y'all are acting like is a dang porno or something. The sexlessness of Trek is lame but I can see why they don't even try anymore if all it takes to set people off is a light touch and an exposed midriff. Get the rulers out, the vice principals want to go measuring skirts and t shirts for dress code adherence. I don't think we've even seen Saru's midriff at all because of you puritan ninnies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SAKh1_6uGw

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

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There should have been at least one below-the-frame quarantine gel handjob to completion

Admiralty Flag
Jun 7, 2007

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022

My favorite part of the decon chamber set is that Phlox even had a little slit he could watch the action through like a Times Square peep show.

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
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All doin this:

Poke Chop
Apr 27, 2008

Craptacular! posted:

The past few pages of this thread have been pretty horny so I suppose it's only appropriate to say that I am watching Enterprise now.

...

I'd like to add that as a bi man, I appreciate that enterprise was equal opportunity horny. Trip, Mayweather, and whatever was going on with reed and the maco sargent balance out T'pol and Hoshi. Gene's vision!

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."
Mayweather was an absolute wasted asset.

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


Hoshi too.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

The_Doctor posted:

Mayweather was an absolute wasted asset.



He wasn’t in the decon chamber nearly enough I agree.

Actual Satan
Mar 14, 2017

Keep on partying!

You'll NEVER regret it!

Trust ME!


Being able to see the penis is an important part of Star Trek, perhaps the most important part.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007
honestly by the Trek future I have to assume they'd have found a better solution than the pp

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
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The_Doctor posted:

Mayweather was an absolute wasted asset.



drat, if I were writing an episode he'd be really gifted at microgravity ballet, which he has practiced since his childhood on the freighters despite teasing from his siblings. The episode would hinge on him overcoming his nerves before a huge ballet performance on a busy space station by talking to various crew members about his past and stuff. Finally, he'd be confident enough in himself to put on that tight future leotard and do a ten-minute wire ballet performance that finished out the episode, complete with loving looks from everyone who supported him

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

Actual Satan posted:

Being able to see the penis is an important part of Star Trek, perhaps the most important part.

:hmmyes:

Thanks, ‘Underwear’ entry on Memory Alpha. It was very important we saw the whole bulge.

The_Doctor fucked around with this message at 18:48 on May 25, 2022

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Charity Porno
Aug 2, 2021

by Hand Knit

Khanstant posted:

this is the scene y'all are acting like is a dang porno or something. The sexlessness of Trek is lame but I can see why they don't even try anymore if all it takes to set people off is a light touch and an exposed midriff. Get the rulers out, the vice principals want to go measuring skirts and t shirts for dress code adherence. I don't think we've even seen Saru's midriff at all because of you puritan ninnies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SAKh1_6uGw

Oh yeah, people were definitely upset about the sheer hotness of it, not the fact it was a transparent, cynical attempt to titillate those sexless nerds that like the Star Tracks

what a weird take

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