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totalnewbie posted:I wonder what he thinks people will do with all that extra money - bury it under a tree or something? Assuming you mean Herman Cain, why, "create jobs" of course. All that extra money means he can hire more workers. Workers he won't need since fewer people can afford to purchase his product, but they'll just hire people more anyway since that what job creators do whenever they have piles of money lying around. They create jobs.
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SpRahl posted:I realize intervention in Syria is a huge bag of worms but I gotta vent. I'm pretty sure I already know the answer to this, but has anybody on Fox or talk radio actually mentioned anything - anything at all - about actually going after the terrorists who actually committed the attack on Benghazi?
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if I cant convince them of a good reason to change the channel. 
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Fulchrum posted:I'm pretty sure I already know the answer to this, but has anybody on Fox or talk radio actually mentioned anything - anything at all - about actually going after the terrorists who actually committed the attack on Benghazi? They've been going after Hillary every week since, yeah.
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BiggerBoat posted:Herman Cain is all over it every loving day and rails that if we have to pay 40 cents more for a Quarter Pounder, people will stop eating them and McDonalds will close. Or some such dumb poo poo. I guess it hits close to him and is dear to his heart since he built his fortune by somehow making a pizza tastes worse than a loving Big Mac. Which is funny since fast food prices have gone up considerably in the past few years due in large part to commodity speculation, and during the same period McDonald's saw continual profit growth. It's like $6-7 for a quarter pounder meal there already.
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comes along bort posted:Which is funny since fast food prices have gone up considerably in the past few years due in large part to commodity speculation, and during the same period McDonald's saw continual profit growth. It's like $6-7 for a quarter pounder meal there already. If McDonald's did close it wouldn't mean poo poo anyway. People still have to eat. Other restaurants would fill the void. They probably wouldn't even raise prices as a direct result of having to pay people more. They'd raise them as a direct result of more people having enough money to eat regularly and being willing to spend a little more to do it. That's not necessarily a bad thing.
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Threats about disruptions are pretty :yawn: since there is so little in the consumer economy that anyone regards as more than interchangeable and transient. Dick's Sporting Goods closes? Oh hey, here comes Gander Mountain, with 20% off kayaks for their grand opening! Gander Mtn. fucks off for free land sixty miles outside the city? Welcome, Cabela's, AR-15's and two free magazines for all! Maybe part of the reason the right can feel persecuted is that the economic arrangements they've ushered in command very little in the way of actual affection. Even wingers defend this American economy in the abstract, there's not much to love about what actually winds up in front of them. I think this is why the right has been so aggressive and activist in the last thirty years. While on-paper support for the ideology is at a high, the right knows most citizens harbor serious dissatisfaction with the way things have gone, because even Glenn Beck viewers nurture these Communist Leanings themselves. And a righteous reactionary has a peculiar and very consistent way of addressing personal flaws.
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agarjogger posted:Threats about disruptions are pretty :yawn: since there is so little in the consumer economy that anyone regards as more than interchangeable and transient. Dick's Sporting Goods closes? Oh hey, here comes Gander Mountain, with 20% off kayaks for their grand opening! Gander Mtn. fucks off for free land sixty miles outside the city? Welcome, Cabela's, AR-15's and two free magazines for all! Maybe part of the reason the right can feel persecuted is that the economic arrangements they've ushered in command very little in the way of actual affection. This article in Salon today echoes your point. The american retail landscape is becoming pretty bland.
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radical meme posted:This article in Salon today echoes your point. The american retail landscape is becoming pretty bland. Little secret- the easy way to keep chains out is to have a specific local architectural style then force any potential chain to adhere to it, especially if it means building will be significantly more expensive than comparable areas. Doesn't even have to be historically significant or actually something anyone's followed in decades, but it works.
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What is it with so many Conservatives believing that Martin Luther King, Jr was Republican?
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BJA posted:What is it with so many Conservatives believing that Martin Luther King, Jr was Republican? Same thing where John McCain is a Democrat
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BJA posted:What is it with so many Conservatives believing that Martin Luther King, Jr was Republican? Because it's easier than tarring his posthumous reputation at this point, and they have a hard time dealing with the idea that good people were ideologically opposed to the group they identify with.
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Let us never forget the glorious Glenn Beck 8/28 rally celebrating the legacy of Martin Luther The King. Truly a great moment in American history.
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BJA posted:What is it with so many Conservatives believing that Martin Luther King, Jr was Republican? I miss the good ol' days prior to early 2000s when he was just a womanizer, plagiarist, and commie.
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BJA posted:What is it with so many Conservatives believing that Martin Luther King, Jr was Republican? I think he was a registered Republican way early on in his youth (At least, when I was a stupid High School Republican, this is what I heard). Of course they miss the distinction of the Democrats he was protesting were tied to a particular region, and that region now overwhelmingly supports Republicans. And that the Democrats he was against supicously disappeared when the CRA was passed and suddenly turned up latter as Republicans. It's almost like historical nuances aren't there thing.
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BJA posted:What is it with so many Conservatives believing that Martin Luther King, Jr was Republican? The root of it is that Martin Luther King Sr was a lifelong registered Republican, at least until Nixon found it politically expedient to pretend he didn't know MLK jr.
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PrinceRandom posted:I think he was a registered Republican way early on in his youth (At least, when I was a stupid High School Republican, this is what I heard). Of course they miss the distinction of the Democrats he was protesting were tied to a particular region, and that region now overwhelmingly supports Republicans. And that the Democrats he was against supicously disappeared when the CRA was passed and suddenly turned up latter as Republicans. In his personal correspondence he's said he always voted Democratic, so there's that.
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comes along bort posted:In his personal correspondence he's said he always voted Democratic, so there's that. The main point is, he (probably) never voted for Dixiecrats, and that's essentially what the modern Republican Party is after the grand Reagan Southern Strategy. He was essentially a democratic socialist anyways and I have a hard time believing the right can find a lot of corporate welfare arguments in his works.
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BJA posted:What is it with so many Conservatives believing that Martin Luther King, Jr was Republican? Partially, among people who should know better, it's shame and an unwillingness to admit that the only guy in the 20th century who has his own holiday and who has been canonized in our educational system is the antithesis of everything they believe and work toward. A total unwillingness to admit that they would spit in the face of a national hero if he were alive today. Aside from that, conservatives generally assume that national hero types were on their side because they have taken up the mantle of promoting "national greatness" and all of that in their rhetoric, and how could anyone admire a leftist? And then you have places with (formerly, for Virginia) no shame that celebrate Lee-Jackson-King Day instead. Jazerus fucked around with this message at 08:21 on Sep 1, 2013 |
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BJA posted:What is it with so many Conservatives believing that Martin Luther King, Jr was Republican? Yes, clearly MLK Jr. was republican kin because not one prominent political republican who was invited to attend (and a lot of them were invited) the "I have a dream" rally showed up - they all claimed they were busy doing other things, in spite of the house and senate being on break during that time. The party of whitesplaining to blacks is now trying to whitesplain themselves into claiming MLK Jr. as their own, without putting any actual effort in to prove it. At least now any given civil rights advocate should know very clearly which party is their chief enemy. Spacedad fucked around with this message at 09:56 on Sep 1, 2013 |
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Jazerus posted:Partially, among people who should know better, it's shame and an unwillingness to admit that the only guy in the 20th century who has his own holiday and who has been canonized in our educational system You need to come out to California and enjoy a nice Caesar Chavez Day. The CSU system replaced the holiday we got on President's Day with a holiday on Caesar Chavez Day. There was a fair bit of grumbling about our glorious (white) Presidents being abandoned for some rabble rousing (Hispanic) nobody. Good times.
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I think its less that and more of a simple minded "Us Good. They Bad. Good guy agree with us" See the insistence that, if JFK were alive today, he'd be disgusted by the modern Democrats and immediately join the Republicans. And their essentially co-opting the Founding Fathers and Jesus as mouthpieces. What they said or stood for is irrelevant. They're good guys, so they would have agreed with us, cause we're the good guys, cause we tell ourselves we're the good guys. That, and they think its an effective way to refute people pointing out their racism. "Oh yeah? Republicans are racist? Well, guess who else was a Republican - thats right, MLK! I hope you know how horrible you are, calling MLK a racist."
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Fulchrum posted:I think its less that and more of a simple minded "Us Good. They Bad. Good guy agree with us" Of course he would be a Republican, he was Catholic. I doubt you could find one prominent Catholic in today's Democratic Party.
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Yes, a Catholic, named after the founder of the Protestant faith. (Okay, he was named after his father, who was named after the founder of the Protestant faith). And aren't Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden both Catholics?
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Fulchrum posted:Yes, a Catholic, named after the founder of the Protestant faith. (Okay, he was named after his father, who was named after the founder of the Protestant faith). I think he meant to say that Kennedy would be a Republican today because he was Catholic.
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I also love it when Republicans point to the Civil War as a means to show that liberals/dems are the real racists and that they the republicans are the true party of minority rights because some guy they would have today run out of the country ended slavery. As if both parties are the exact same way they were 150 years ago.
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Well, if any party is devoted to keepinjg things exactly as they were 150 years ago, its the Republicans.
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SpRahl posted:I also love it when Republicans point to the Civil War as a means to show that liberals/dems are the real racists and that they the republicans are the true party of minority rights because some guy they would have today run out of the country ended slavery. As if both parties are the exact same way they were 150 years ago. The concept of shifting ideology is, ironically, probably an alien concept to all the Dixiecrats claiming Abe Lincoln was a conservative.
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Does anyone know if Fox News makes a profit? Do any news channels make money?
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DynamicSloth posted:That photo was taken 11 years before the Taliban was founded. The Saddam-Rumsfeld photo is such an easier go to without the casual racism. Might should have guessed a picture I saw on reddit years ago wasn't an accurate depiction of history. Thanks for the heads-up. In the ongoing round-up of where right-wing figures will fall on Obama's latest announcements re: Syria, Bill O'Reilly has yet to weigh in (that I've seen), but it's worth noting that his most recent pontificating on the subject suggested exactly what the president did: Bill O'Reilly posted:Mr. Obama has a unique opportunity not only to damage Assad but to show the world that we are the good guys and that those helping Assad are the bad guys. It will be interesting to see if he remembers this in the coming week.
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redshirt posted:Does anyone know if Fox News makes a profit? Do any news channels make money? Of course, they wouldn't exist if they didn't make money. Pretty sure Fox's quarterly revenue is somewhere in the 1 billions.
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MizPiz posted:Of course, they wouldn't exist if they didn't make money. Pretty sure Fox's quarterly revenue is somewhere in the 1 billions. I'm not so sure about that. Many rich people are more than prepared to lose money if it serves their greater propaganda purposes.
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redshirt posted:Does anyone know if Fox News makes a profit? Do any news channels make money? They're all fairly profitable because they cost almost nothing to produce.
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redshirt posted:I'm not so sure about that. Many rich people are more than prepared to lose money if it serves their greater propaganda purposes. No Fox makes money hand over fist.
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I was driving this morning and caught Wade Goodwyn hosting today's Weekend Edition on NPR, he has a killer voice. However, he was interviewing Congressman Tom McLintock, and gave the good gentleman from California way too much leeway with his answers to relatively simple interview questions. The congressman said that the President firing cruise missiles at Syrian targets would be a Consitutional crisis. He said that only congress can declare war, and went on a 30 second speech about how congress does so, even though Goodwyn never asserted we would go to war. At one point the congressman said that Obama would hurt plucky little Israel if he ignored the wishes of the American people. The final straw in this morning's show was when the congressman said that throughout American history, we have only intervened when an ally or we are directly attacked, I almost drove off the road. Wade just said thank you and moved on. It was a spineless shameful interview and the journalist should feel ashamed of himself for not asking the congressman to stay on subject, or call him on his lies and half-truths. I am furious that the congressman was allowed to get away with that, and I am not a Syria hawk at all. It was just bad journalism.
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redshirt posted:Does anyone know if Fox News makes a profit? Do any news channels make money? Quite a bit of one. In fact, Fox does so well it ends up subsidizing the less successful Newscorp publications.
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Spacedad posted:Yes, clearly MLK Jr. was republican kin because not one prominent political republican who was invited to attend (and a lot of them were invited) the "I have a dream" rally showed up - they all claimed they were busy doing other things, in spite of the house and senate being on break during that time. Blacks aren't their voting base so why should they care? Not like they actually give a poo poo about civil rights for minorities so why even bother pretending they do? The only time people pay attention to them is when they're campaigning for election/reelection so it's only then that they'll make a token visit to some black community event or talk about how much they love the blacks, just not that one that's in the White House. Darkman Fanpage fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Sep 1, 2013 |
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