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So does this need 67% to pass or is it majority?
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Lmao put it on the ballot haha he's such a scum fucker, he won't even pretend that he'd ever vote for it
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Jun 2, 2017 00:33
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FYI, since it doesn't have a tax increase as a part of it, it only needs a simple majority to pass.
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Jun 2, 2017 00:34
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Don't give a gently caress about the republicans, but these idiotic milquetoast dems who think the soon-to-be-gutted ACA is good enough need to GET GOOD.
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Jun 2, 2017 00:34
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The Glumslinger posted:So does this need 67% to pass or is it majority? Majority, since it doesn't have a funding method yet. Will need a supermajority when it comes back I think though.
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Jun 2, 2017 00:34
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Now the Senator from California's rear end in a top hat is going to preach to us about how to do things. Yeah people are relocating because they don't want to live in loving Bakersfield.
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Jun 2, 2017 00:35
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CPColin posted:Digging this entirely unsourced 15% tax figure they keep bandying about. Also, "From what I'm hearing, businesses will close." Hearing from where, huh?
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Jun 2, 2017 00:39
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Wow, Nguyen's argument are especially batshit and dishonest, even by the standards of the Republicans speaking so far.
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Jun 2, 2017 00:39
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CopperHound posted:My health insurance already costs ~20% of my income... why is this 15% tax number a big deal? Because I'm asking you if you want to pay both for no reason so I can say you're against single payer
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Jun 2, 2017 00:40
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I was going to ask what's up with this lady's speaking style but then looked it up and she's a refugee from VN and now I kinda feel like an rear end in a top hat.
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Jun 2, 2017 00:41
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"How is a good system supposed to work when our bad system barely works?!"
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Jun 2, 2017 00:42
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The North Tower posted:I was going to ask what's up with this lady's speaking style but then looked it up and she's a refugee from VN and now I kinda feel like an rear end in a top hat. Doesn't excuse her being a lovely loving person.
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Jun 2, 2017 00:43
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CopperHound posted:My health insurance already costs ~20% of my income... why is this 15% tax number a big deal? Exactly. A tax is probably my preferred way to handle it, because I can look at salary information for a job and factor in the consistent income tax a lot easier than I can compare giant tables of esoteric plan names. I got the below image during my current job search in response to me asking for details on benefits. I wanted to email back, "Great, now what's the actual value of each of those plans?"
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Jun 2, 2017 00:44
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Mordiceius posted:Doesn't excuse her being a lovely loving person. For sure. I just want to be sure I make fun of her for things that ARE her fault.
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Jun 2, 2017 00:45
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Okay are we out of Republicans yet? There's only thirteen, but I haven't been keeping count. They've all been so horrible too. It's like they're having a lovely person competition.
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Jun 2, 2017 00:47
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It's pretty funny how obviously stupid every single argument they're using is, they're all so childish and facile
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Jun 2, 2017 00:47
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FOOL'S GOLD!
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Jun 2, 2017 00:49
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just ask people for a loving utility bill to determine residency jesus christ, or just use whatever the csu and uc use to determine residency
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Jun 2, 2017 00:50
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I want a Democrat to call out these poo poo fuckers who talk about how it needs work or to be cooked or whatever the gently caress the Republicans are saying and just point out that they're never voting for it no matter what
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Jun 2, 2017 00:50
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"Corporate monopolies are bad for the consumer! SO HOW CAN A GOVERNMENT MONOPOLY BE GOOD FOR CITIZENS?! CHECKMATE DEMS!"
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Jun 2, 2017 00:50
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Here we go!
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Jun 2, 2017 00:54
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Lemming posted:I want a Democrat to call out these poo poo fuckers who talk about how it needs work or to be cooked or whatever the gently caress the Republicans are saying and just point out that they're never voting for it no matter what Thank you, Senator De León!
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Jun 2, 2017 00:55
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Hell yeah 
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Jun 2, 2017 01:04
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Hooray
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Jun 2, 2017 01:04
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23-14 YES!!!!!!
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Hueso didn't even stick around to vote!
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Jun 2, 2017 01:06
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The North Tower posted:23-14 YES!!!!!! Eventually this page should get updated to show the roll call: https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billVotesClient.xhtml?bill_id=201720180SB562 My senator (Beall) voted yes when it was in the appropriations committee so I assume he voted for it on the floor.
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Jun 2, 2017 01:23
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Somebody was kind enough to tweet screenshots of the roll: https://twitter.com/Villavlcek/status/870432654256033792
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Jun 2, 2017 02:01
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At least with last call at 4am, you could drink all night until BART starts running again finally because it turns into a pumpkin at midnight unless you're drinking on a Saturday then lol get hosed since it doesnt run until like 8am
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Jun 2, 2017 02:11
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Xaris posted:At least with last call at 4am, you could drink all night until BART starts running again finally because it turns into a pumpkin at midnight As someone who's done Uber/Lyft to make some extra money when underemployed, I expect this is going to be great for drivers of all kinds. 230-430 in the Bay Area is usually dead since the first planes don't land until 430.
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Jun 2, 2017 02:53
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I don't understand why they don't just run bart on 24 hours on Friday/Saturday. I totally get that there is fairly little need for bart to run from midnight-5am Sunday-Thursday, but you would think they would just keep it running Friday night and Saturday night. It's actually pretty infuriating because it makes night activities with friends across the bay much more difficult to coordinate.
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Jun 2, 2017 03:02
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As I understood it, it's because they have to shut down the Transbay Tube in order to do maintenance on its track, and they have to do maintenance on a section of its track every or almost every night in order to have maintained the whole thing on a regular calendar basis. So as with most civic infelicities, its perfectly solvable with a time machine and increased spending on trains. 
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Jun 2, 2017 03:21
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Doc Hawkins posted:As I understood it, it's because they have to shut down the Transbay Tube in order to do maintenance on its track, and they have to do maintenance on a section of its track every or almost every night in order to have maintained the whole thing on a regular calendar basis. It seems like that only running the trains 2 of 7 nights a week shouldn't gently caress things up too bad. That's still 5 nights a week where they get to shut down the tube. If that's too much of an ask, then just burn everything to the ground.
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Jun 2, 2017 03:23
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Mordiceius posted:I don't understand why they don't just run bart on 24 hours on Friday/Saturday. Yeah BART has said that with current funding levels leaving the BART open later would force them to open later as a result. Since their data shows that a bunch of people use the BART to get to work in the early morning they pick that audience to serve.
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Trabisnikof posted:Yeah BART has said that with current funding levels leaving the BART open later would force them to open later as a result. Since their data shows that a bunch of people use the BART to get to work in the early morning they pick that audience to serve. And they should still be serving them, Monday-Friday. But on Friday/Saturday night, they should either stay running later and open later or just stay running 24 hours.
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Jun 2, 2017 03:26
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Trabisnikof posted:Yeah BART has said that with current funding levels leaving the BART open later would force them to open later as a result. Since their data shows that a bunch of people use the BART to get to work in the early morning they pick that audience to serve. Oh, so it really is just a funding problem. Doc Hawkins posted:increased spending on trains.
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Jun 2, 2017 03:41
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I normally hate Bay Area busses but tbh for the relatively smalll late night ridership they could solve a lot just running better late night scheduled busses as opposed to a few of the abominable nIght AC lines that are like once every 2 hrs. Less staffing for keeping stations open (and clean, holy god I took a 130am NYE Bart once, p much everyone pissing in the station and some puke) There's also like no traffic at that time anyways so it could be faster as opposed to having to work with maintenance schedule and running slow through sections that are being worked on
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Jun 2, 2017 03:50
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Mordiceius posted:And they should still be serving them, Monday-Friday. But on Friday/Saturday night, they should either stay running later and open later or just stay running 24 hours. I think they're still using the BART to get to work on the weekend too quote:In 2011, the BART Board of Directors directed staff to study shifting service hours on weekends so that Saturday and Sunday morning train service would begin later to allow Friday and Saturday night service to end later. This would preserve the maintenance window. But the 2011 survey found that customers who ride early in the morning are predominately minority and low-income and largely riding to work. Shifting service hours would negatively impact these customers. Doc Hawkins posted:Oh, so it really is just a funding problem. I think the single track is why they have to shut the tube for maintenance and it is funding issues why they can't shut the tube down for shorter periods.
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I still don't understand why they have to do maintenance on the tube literally every single night.
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Mordiceius posted:I still don't understand why they have to do maintenance on the tube literally every single night. It's 3+ miles of the most heavily used track in the entire system. In a tunnel. Underwater. With no redundancy.
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