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menino posted:Which, to be fair, is functionally identical to a set of hard-line lists. There's a reason we in HR call applicant tracking systems 'post and pray'. There is just way too much noise in these systems at large companies to make finding a 'qualified' candidate worth it. I don't work for Google or Facebook but it's a fairly well known tech company and that's how it works here, I would be rather surprised if Google or FB actually have a better ATS than the industry norm. I haven't used Google's, but FB's is the best I've used by far (of, admittedly, only a half-dozen). When I did new-grad interviews I was routinely talking to people who had cold-applied. They go into the same bucket as the ones we source from job fairs and whatnot, as far as I know, though the interview mechanics are somewhat different. For experienced candidates a larger proportion are cold inbound, perhaps obviously.
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Subjunctive posted:I haven't used Google's, but FB's is the best I've used by far (of, admittedly, only a half-dozen). When I did new-grad interviews I was routinely talking to people who had cold-applied. They go into the same bucket as the ones we source from job fairs and whatnot, as far as I know, though the interview mechanics are somewhat different. For experienced candidates a larger proportion are cold inbound, perhaps obviously. Yeah I guess I should not be surprised by that. They have the very big advantage of less legacy systems and path dependence. I would not be surprised if they didn't even screen for college degrees, which is something I think would really help in the 'talent war' for software devs.
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menino posted:Yeah I guess I should not be surprised by that. They have the very big advantage of less legacy systems and path dependence. I would not be surprised if they didn't even screen for college degrees, which is something I think would really help in the 'talent war' for software devs. I interview probably a candidate a month that hasn't finished their degree (though they do have industry experience). Google used to be super hard line about it, but aren't any more from what I've heard. Neither FB nor Google are really young companies, but they do have the advantage of a stable of developers who can build good tools, and who believe that recruiting/hiring is something worth investing in.
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Subjunctive posted:I interview probably a candidate a month that hasn't finished their degree (though they do have industry experience). Google used to be super hard line about it, but aren't any more from what I've heard. They're not young by SV standards but just in a general 'tech' sector that would include HP/Intel/Cisco/Oracle/IBM, they are. All of those companies are aware of the need for good talent but some of them have had trouble retooling their interfaces to be more lean/agile/iterative/ideate/buzzwordbuzzword
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This thread nose dived pretty quick from a pretty fun discussion about the absurd aspirations of millennials to boring computer janitor hiring chat
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terrorist ambulance posted:This thread nose dived pretty quick from a pretty fun discussion about the absurd aspirations of millennials to boring computer janitor hiring chat much like the aspirations of millennials
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Halolife was a pretty fun game. But seriously, I checked their site and I don't think they look too awful. TBH, being able to plan your aging, possibly senile relatives' funerals without having to go halfway across the country is a fine convenience, but I don't think it's a convenience all that many people care about. So of course they'll be have a bil+ valuation within six months.
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I'm not sure even the bubbliest techiest greediest startup could be scammier than the average funeral home so go them.
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Yeah that's a really weird business. The traditional model has no choice but to sell people stuff they don't need with markups small picture and to crowd out alternatives big picture.
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Anyone know anything about that mortgage app that advertised on the Superbowl? Rocket Mortgage? Seems like the loving dumbest idea ever. Yes, let me make the most important big purchase of my life through an app on my phone. I can't wait until someone butt-dials a mortgage. Not to mention their commercial was insulting in the "everyone has to be a homeowner and we are helping!" sense.
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WampaLord posted:Anyone know anything about that mortgage app that advertised on the Superbowl? Rocket Mortgage? Rocket is Quicken. Don't know about the app, but the company is doing fine afaik.
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I think its just a pre approval anyway My last bit of hiring fun was sorting though a bunch of resumes for a special internship program, finding someone working on an area of interest for us, doing a bunch of annoying hr work, then finding out their grad gpa was unacceptable to higher management so everything ground to a halt
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WampaLord posted:Anyone know anything about that mortgage app that advertised on the Superbowl? Rocket Mortgage? Doesn't seem worse than doing preapproval over a web site, which is common enough.
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lancemantis posted:I think its just a pre approval anyway Subjunctive posted:Doesn't seem worse than doing preapproval over a web site, which is common enough. Well that's news to me, and makes a lot more sense. The commercial implied it was "Get your mortgage through this app!" as if it was going to be the entire process.
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WampaLord posted:Well that's news to me, and makes a lot more sense. The commercial implied it was "Get your mortgage through this app!" as if it was going to be the entire process. I'm sure that was not accidental.
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Amazon has just started "Amazon Launchpad" which translates as "Take a product created through a Kickstarter or similar and sell it to a wider public." It's being promoted as "Discover Unique and Unexpected Products from today's brightest startups". The products include gems like Pavlok, a "wearable [i.e. black rubber wristband like all the other ones] that helps break bad habits and reduce cravings using vibration, beep, and a mild electric stimulus" (my daughter: "What about a rubber band on the wrist?"); Sleipnir, a $79 anemometer for your cellphone (husband and daughter: "You can't just wet your finger and stick it in the air?"), and a $99 water bottle that "tracks your hydration throughout the day" (via Bluetooth) but has no handle or carrying loop of any sort. That last is called the Mark One Pryme Vessyl, which sounds like it belongs in either a space vampire LARP or a fourth-rate metal band. Ah, brave new world.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Amazon has just started "Amazon Launchpad" which translates as "Take a product created through a Kickstarter or similar and sell it to a wider public." It's being promoted as "Discover Unique and Unexpected Products from today's brightest startups". The products include gems like Pavlok, a "wearable [i.e. black rubber wristband like all the other ones] that helps break bad habits and reduce cravings using vibration, beep, and a mild electric stimulus" (my daughter: "What about a rubber band on the wrist?"); Sleipnir, a $79 anemometer for your cellphone (husband and daughter: "You can't just wet your finger and stick it in the air?"), and a $99 water bottle that "tracks your hydration throughout the day" (via Bluetooth) but has no handle or carrying loop of any sort. That last is called the Mark One Pryme Vessyl, which sounds like it belongs in either a space vampire LARP or a fourth-rate metal band. Anemometers are useful in a lot of different niches - some work sites have to go under special operating procedures if the consistent or gusting wind speeds get above a certain amount. I can also think of several hobbies that benefit from knowing localized wind speeds (stunt kites, boating, model rockets/planes, etc). Sticking your finger in the air won't cut it. That being said, I'm sure there are less expensive options.
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Fair point. However, not only are there cheaper anemometers, there are cheaper cellphone anemometers.
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That reminds me of a kickstarted product that keeps popping up on my Facebook feed. It's called the Luup and it's a litter box with three interlocking parts that basically sifts itself so you don't have to scoop. Only... It already loving exists, it's called a Lift and Sift. So it's a product that you can already walk into a store and buy, with a much less stupid name no less.
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DrNutt posted:That reminds me of a kickstarted product that keeps popping up on my Facebook feed. It's called the Luup and it's a litter box with three interlocking parts that basically sifts itself so you don't have to scoop. Only... To be fair, there's also already a cat litter box that flushes itself too. http://www.catgenie.com/
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DrNutt posted:That reminds me of a kickstarted product that keeps popping up on my Facebook feed. It's called the Luup and it's a litter box with three interlocking parts that basically sifts itself so you don't have to scoop. Only... I love those sorts of ads on FB, because you can comment on them. I always get the Soylent ads myself, those are lots of fun.
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WampaLord posted:Anyone know anything about that mortgage app that advertised on the Superbowl? Rocket Mortgage? As someone who just closed on a house and went through the mortgage process, although not with Rocket, there is so much that goes into the mortgage that it would be nearly impossible to do strictly through an app. As others mentioned, it's probably the pre-approval, and then they hook you up with an actual loan officer once you go under contract. You have to get a pre-approval letter to put in with your offer on a property, and an app probably is a quick way to do that. Especially since pre-approval letters for a mortgage should get customized for that exact property you are offering, and they can probably spit that out quickly.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:a $99 water bottle that "tracks your hydration throughout the day" (via Bluetooth) but has no handle or carrying loop of any sort. You know what also tracks your hydration throughout the day? Your sense of thirst.
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I'm going to make a $200 portable bluetooth bedpan that reminds you to urinate throughout the day.
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Wheany posted:I'm going to make a $200 portable bluetooth bedpan that reminds you to urinate throughout the day. BedPang
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You will be happy to know they also have a single-use ladyplug for urinary incontinence, where by "single-use" I mean you have to apply a new one every time you urinate. At $1 per plug, that adds up.
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DeathSandwich posted:To be fair, there's also already a cat litter box that flushes itself too. Washable cat litter. I can only imagine how horrible that stuff winds up smelling.
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lmboquote:Ohlala, an app that facilitates "paid dates," caused a ripple of raised eyebrows when it launched in New York last month. Despite Ohlala's insistence that it is not about paying for sex, people had a hard time figuring out what it really was for. The company maintains that line, but a few mixed signals are making it hard for the message to stick. Go to the website and you'll be greeted with an image of a man and a women just about to kiss, before an explanation of how the service works. Further down, a small note exclaims, "Ohlala is not an escort service. Escorts are not welcome."
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shrike82 posted:lmbo Doesn't that already exist, well not in app form but as a website, in those skeezy sugar daddy dating offshoots.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:The products include gems like Pavlok, a "wearable [i.e. black rubber wristband like all the other ones] that helps break bad habits and reduce cravings using vibration, beep, and a mild electric stimulus" (my daughter: "What about a rubber band on the wrist?") Rubber Bands have worked for (almost) every tweaker I've known.
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DrNutt posted:Washable cat litter. I can only imagine how horrible that stuff winds up smelling. I owned one. It didn't smell but was incredibly inefficient and wasteful, as well as limited since it had to be in range of a toilet for water/drainage. Every time a cat sets foot in it, it washed everything, then spent about 1/2 hr blow drying the plastic pellets. They bill it as "environmentally friendly", but I cannot think of any way you could possible make the thing more wasteful. It was also lovely to come use the toilet and find the "output", which you were just intended to flush.
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Didn't see this here, an e-mail claims Instacart is slashing rates for its drivers in certain markets.Fortune posted:Instacart is cutting pay rates for many of the drivers who work for the on-demand startup. According to the Wall Street Journal on Friday, the San Francisco-based grocery delivery service is slashing wages for drivers in its hometown by as much as 63%. No idea if this means the company is hurting or they're just trying to wring more work out of employees for less pay, but sucks either way. The WSJ article it came from has more details, but is probably behind their paywall: The Wall Street Journal posted:But the immediate effect is many Instacart drivers will earn less for the same deliveries, said Josh Schwarzenbach, a driver in San Jose, Calif.
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Nobody's mentioned SpoonRocket shutting down yet?quote:SpoonRocket informed its investors it’s shutting down its on-demand pre-made meal delivery service after failing to raise the necessary capital to continue operations. Hard to tell how much of an indictment this is of the general "on-demand stuff" model this is, since even to the most naive and optimistic techie imaginable it was obvious that there were far too many players in the on-demand food space, there was no way most of them were going to survive. Cicero fucked around with this message at 23:23 on Mar 15, 2016 |
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Marenghi posted:Doesn't that already exist, well not in app form but as a website, in those skeezy sugar daddy dating offshoots. Sugar websites never handle the transactions themselves. By paying for the company of a woman through the app, you're not in a sugar relationship anymore, you're definitely buying an escort.
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Marenghi posted:Doesn't that already exist, well not in app form but as a website, in those skeezy sugar daddy dating offshoots. You're thinking of Craigslist/Backpages.
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Cicero posted:Nobody's mentioned SpoonRocket shutting down yet? On-demand stuff maybe work in the core areas of maybe 20 cities on the planet to be generous. The problem is most of these idiots don't understand this and if you live outside of these areas it's loving useless.
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moller posted:This attitude seems to rely on not needing a job to not be homeless and internetless. pangstrom posted:"Sure, I get this 'money', but stringing together 9 porn- and nap-free hours? I don't think so. And don't get me started on driving places." This is old, but pretty much. I mean, to be fair, I personally, would probably not spend all my time on porn, but work on dumb little games and software and art and stuff that excite me but could never actually pay my bills. I recognize I'm a work-shy malcontent, though. But I think everyone should be, and that's the real goal of automation and tech and so on. I also know that I'm practically living the dream coming from a great school in a great field that tolerates so much bullshit from me. I just think that really should be the case for everyone. Mrit posted:Exactly. If you are fully qualified for a job, you will be bored. If in the long list of qualifications you are at least 50% of the way there, you should be fine. I know this is how things are set up, but this is an awful system and probably a good cover story for filtering out minority candidates. "See, Tia wasn't even qualified so that's why we didn't bring her in. Oh, but we just took a chance on Clint and he surprised us."
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And by some weird coincidence, Clint is more likely to be a younger white male.
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foobardog posted:This is old, but pretty much. I mean, to be fair, I personally, would probably not spend all my time on porn, but work on dumb little games and software and art and stuff that excite me but could never actually pay my bills. I recognize I'm a work-shy malcontent, though. But I think everyone should be, and that's the real goal of automation and tech and so on.
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