cargo cult posted:

lol i somehow never realized that its a sweaty personality cult

FMguru posted:

I thought it was a reference to a different San Diego serial killer/cop from that same era.

San Diego cops are something else, I tell ya.

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

Does this recent spate of arrests of white kids with guns mean that the feds are acting on the huge pile of information they’ve assembled re: radicalized nazis?

Is this just throwing us a bone so that next month they can go right back to ignoring the nazis?

Siljmonster posted:

90s Cringe Rock posted:

The world desperately needed a platform for TERFs so bad they got banned from mumschan.

FMguru posted:

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

Does this recent spate of arrests of white kids with guns mean that the feds are acting on the huge pile of information they’ve assembled re: radicalized nazis?

Is this just throwing us a bone so that next month they can go right back to ignoring the nazis?

Alan Smithee posted:

https://twitter.com/EyesOnTheRight/status/1161326387950706688

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTqd4yNFuSw

this movie looks amazing, gently caress these cowards

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTqd4yNFuSw

this movie looks amazing, gently caress these cowards

Siljmonster posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyC75Wb9uXg

Auburn, CA has had a serial killer cop for awhile. Can't wait to see this whole thing.


also

Bullfrog posted:

I've seen talk that this was an ex's way of harassing her

Syd Midnight posted:

This is a really good post about why nazis love paintings like this. The adjective "degenerate" is my new favorite dogwhistle. I have never seen the word used in a non-nazi context outside of condensed-matter physics.

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/08/14/san-antonio-ice-office-shots-fired-ero-field-office-texas/2005896001/

lol people are starting to fight a guerrilla war against ICE

Marxist-Jezzinist posted:

No people or officers were injured

Bedshaped posted:

Besides Fight Club, The Matrix is another popular movie that has gained cult status with the fash who are too obtuse to understand that it is very anti-the-thing-the-movie-is-on-the-surface.

Calico Heart posted:

Always figured right wing people hate surrealism because it relies so heavily on interpretation and subjectivity.

Calico Heart posted:

Always figured right wing people hate surrealism because it relies so heavily on interpretation and subjectivity.

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/08/14/san-antonio-ice-office-shots-fired-ero-field-office-texas/2005896001/

lol people are starting to fight a guerrilla war against ICE

Syd Midnight posted:

Its a cursed topic but you can dig up old logs and wikis of Matrix Online plotlines. Matrix was supposed to become a big multimedia franchise but collapsed with only Animatrix and a few video games making it out. M:O clung grimly to life for years due to a dedicated fanbase and had to follow the planned continuity of all those dvds, books, mangas, clothing lines etc. that never got made, so you can read about the entire Matrix storyline that way.

The machines made the Red Pill. Its how humanity vents off it's dangerous top .1% gently caress YOU MOM AND DAD that would otherwise gently caress up the Matrix. They find each other and are literally flushed down the toilet to go live in sewer caves and fight a foreverwar mass exterminated every century or so, eat dirt and planning attacks and thinking about how much smarter and freer they are than the sheeple in phony "society" who only think their lives are good. So the right is using it correctly, they don't realize just how correctly.

Also Trinity and Neo were twins, cloned by machines to be a messiah figure and lead the humans to peace with machines. Trinity was the backup One in case Neo screwed up. I'm sure there's some significance there. Of course the whole plan backfired spectacularly and the forever war became a forever holy war.

Syd Midnight posted:

This is a really good post about why nazis love paintings like this. The adjective "degenerate" is my new favorite dogwhistle. I have never seen the word used in a non-nazi context outside of condensed-matter physics.

quote:

Make way for a BIG POST toot toot

Art Renewal Center (ARC) is a non-profit organization founded/run by a billionaire guy named Fred Ross. They are an advocacy organization for a particular type of extremely conservative, realistic painting (known as "academic" art). They also offer "certification" for art schools that teach artists how to paint in their approved style. They also have annual awards for works created in their approved style, and certify certain artists as ARC Living Masters™.

Fred Ross, being a Very Wealthy Man, wanted to collect some fine art. He was unhappy with the state of modern art ca. 2000 (spoiler alert, most contemporary art is poo poo), and discovered the work of a mid-tier French painter named William-Adolphe Bouguereau (1825-1905).


Le Printemps by Bouguereau

Bouguerau was moderately popular in his day, but doesn't really figure into anyone's concept of "art history" because his work was kitschy and without any serious point of view or original development. He was, without a doubt, a technical master. The guy could paint the human figure! Nobody disputes that. But in the general outline of art history, Bouguereau is just not that "important," considering the giants of art who were his contemporaries (i.e., the motherfucking Impressionists ).

The ARC really, REALLY wants people to know that Bouguereau was like the greatest painter ever to live. To ARC, the fact that Bouguerau was forgotten in favor of FRAUDS like PICASSO is a shameful conspiracy by people who want to destroy art itself.

Now, if you browse the ARC web site, there are some great artists among their heroes! John Singer Sargent! Anders Zorn! Michelangelo! Alphonse Mucha! Goya! It's not that they have no taste at all. The problems are a little more subtle. For one thing, they're obsessed with academic technique (which they call, "realism") to the exclusion of emotional or intellectual expression.

The art schools they bless (called "ARC-Approved™ Ateliers") teach a particular curriculum based on what's known as "sight-size." This is a system where you set up a canvas at a particular distance from your subject so that the picture you're making and the subject are the same size at the distance you're drawing. You train yourself to copy EXACTLY, from a master drawing (usually from a 19th century series by a guy named Charles Bargue), from plaster casts, and eventually from the live model. One of the ARC-Approved Ateliers was at a place called Founders College (since closed), which was a private college for Objectivists, where men were men, women were women, and you're gonna paint that apple CORRECTLY.

This system produces people who are often able to achieve very accurate representations of what they see. The only problems with it are:

- it doesn't teach you anything about how to compose a good picture, create stuff out of your own head, or exaggerate the aesthetic designs you see
- there's no evidence that the artists of the 19th century learned this way or ever used these techniques. The great artists of history learned in a much more intuitive, humane way. They didn't train to be human cameras.

"OK OK, get to the part."


If you're following our story so far, you might be thinking, Neon Noodle, this obsession with romanticised European figurative art seems kind of… ? And you would be CORRECT. One of the most insidious things about ARC is that they have pretty much re-invented the aesthetic philosophy of the Third Reich! Hooray! They're also totally tone-deaf about it. They don't see the similarities, and they can't imagine why their conception of art might be…problematic?

When ARC was founded in 2000, this wasn't really on anyone's minds (except, you know, us but we're always whining so who cares). But the anti-modernism philosophy has influenced a LOT of younger artists. And this has taken place alongside the other aspects of neo-reactionary ressentiment, like the hatred of postmodernism, "SJWs," the rise of white nationalism, etc.

The ironic thing is that, folks like ARC don't view their beliefs as political in any way. They don't like it when art is "political." They want art to be about pretty maidens and heroic poses. They don't see that this, in itself, is a political viewpoint about the role of art in society and the acceptable political/social content of art.

The modern artists who were included in the Entartete Kunst exhibition didn't just make "ugly" art for no reason, or because they didn't know how to paint "correctly." They had opinions. They were often satirists and commentators on WWI and the state of Weimar society. Artists like Otto Dix:


Trench Warfare by Otto Dix

Or Max Beckmann:

The Night by Max Beckmann

Here's what the Fuhrer thought was "good" art:

The Rewards of Work by Gisbert Palmie

(fun fact, Hitler drew Disney fan art and watched Snow White and Pinocchio in his own private screening room)

ARC hates Modern Art. Like, a lot:

Fred Ross posted:

The modern world is a boiling cauldron of all sorts of great and absurd ideas, feelings, pathos, pathologies, psycho pathologies, humiliation, and dehumanizing ideas … and yet … yet even beauty, too, is still here amongst us, here in this hall and throughout the world, and her manifestations in modern times have been insufficiently expressed. So, find her in your homes, find her in the streets, find her in your communities and in nature, and especially, find her in each other … and save her … save her … protect and cherish her … and exalt her back to her rightful place … a place of supreme prominence, and bring her back into these our greatest institutions and our highest citadels of society and culture.

The concept of beauty/art as a woman who must be saved from the ravages of degeneracy is a recurring trope in Reactionary thought. Aside from being paternalistic as h*ck to women, it fits right in with other metaphorical notions of purity and virginity in peril.

THIS poo poo IS NOT INCIDENTAL TO REACTIONARY PHILOSOPHY. IT IS NOT JUST A SIDE-DISH. IT IS THE MAIN COURSE.

Hitler was an artist. His vision was an aesthetic vision. Reaction (and neoreaction) IS AN AESTHETIC PHILOSOPHY. In my opinion, it's an aesthetic philosophy MORE than it is a political philosophy. I don't think Fred Ross is a Nazi, or even any sort of political reactionary. But I think he's painfully naive if he can't see the connection between his aesthetic philosophy and the other times this philosophy has reared its head.

Also, his taste in art sucks.

Syd Midnight posted:

Syd Midnight posted:

This is a really good post about why nazis love paintings like this. The adjective "degenerate" is my new favorite dogwhistle. I have never seen the word used in a non-nazi context outside of condensed-matter physics.

quote:

Reaction (and neoreaction) IS AN AESTHETIC PHILOSOPHY. In my opinion, it's an aesthetic philosophy MORE than it is a political philosophy.

Bedshaped posted:

That's all very plausible but there's also a 5 minute scene where they do nothing but ruthlessly kill a truckload of cops so I'm going to keep believing The Matrix (1999) is good and definitely my politics.

Syd Midnight posted:

Its a cursed topic but you can dig up old logs and wikis of Matrix Online plotlines. Matrix was supposed to become a big multimedia franchise but collapsed with only Animatrix and a few video games making it out. M:O clung grimly to life for years due to a dedicated fanbase and had to follow the planned continuity of all those dvds, books, mangas, clothing lines etc. that never got made, so you can read about the entire Matrix storyline that way.

The machines made the Red Pill. Its how humanity vents off it's dangerous top .1% gently caress YOU MOM AND DAD that would otherwise gently caress up the Matrix. They find each other and are literally flushed down the toilet to go live in sewer caves and fight a foreverwar mass exterminated every century or so, eat dirt and planning attacks and thinking about how much smarter and freer they are than the sheeple in phony "society" who only think their lives are good. So the right is using it correctly, they don't realize just how correctly.

Also Trinity and Neo were twins, cloned by machines to be a messiah figure and lead the humans to peace with machines. Trinity was the backup One in case Neo screwed up. I'm sure there's some significance there. Of course the whole plan backfired spectacularly and the forever war became a forever holy war.

Bar Crow posted:

In the original movie, the red pill is a rejection of the neoliberal hell world. The sequels gently caress it up by deciding the neoliberal hell world is actually good and the machine elites are right to consume our labor because they are so much smarter.