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Yes sorry, I meant demon-like in the sense they wouldn't be armoured/with guns - but on the other hand - I do see how it could be an interesting faction.
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:I was expecting something more like Antimatter Games' dark mariners Wow, the Cephalid looks amazing! I think that the Mantic painting style could really do with some John Blanche style paintjobs than the super-clean look they have: 
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Yeah the Mantic paint jobs have been pretty bad to mediocre for awhile.
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Atlas Hugged posted:Yeah the Mantic paint jobs have been pretty bad to mediocre for awhile. The ones on the Star Saga minis at Mantic's Open Day were amazing, though. If that's the paint jobs they're using going forward, they ought to do well.
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I like the Walking Dead look too, has s comic book feel and that's the source material so all good. It's their mass battles stuff that isn't great I guess. KoW particularly.
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Worth reposting from the historicals thread:Southern Heel posted:Lots of sprues for sale from Warlord, around 50% off: I grabbed a sprue of Antares Concord troopers to use as Enforcer proxies so my Accuser will have passengers to drop off, to boot.
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After my attempts at getting my home opponent into Pike and Shotte failed, I've got lots of 40x40mm based dudes, which map perfectly to the KoWH Conquistadors army - using http://war-bases.co.uk trays I can actually chuck out something crazy: Three regiments of conquistadors, two hordes of pikemen, four regiments of hand cannons and two troops of arquebusiers - the whole thing comes to about 1750pts, so really not bad for £80 or so from Warlord.
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I'm having similar doubts to Southern Heel about my Forge Father colour choice; I painted these guys a while ago now  I was iffy on it at the time. I feel like it works well on the Iron Ancestor, but less well on the Forge Guard, and that it will in turn be even worse on the Steel Warriors. I'm looking at paints on my FIGS and wondering whether maybe a jet exhaust or gunmetal metallic will work better as a replacement for the Red... or maybe a replacement for the US sand? It'll be tie to start a big paint run on all of them soon.
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Actually I think that's quite a nice scheme - I think you should work up brighter with the red and tan though - maybe a light drybrush or edge highlighting? One of the two colours at least needs to be brighter IMO. If you look at the thumbnail they almost look monochrome. I think you've done it already, but army green on the weapons looks good, and again IMO just needs a little highlight. Or maybe use what is now red as unit-type markers. For example, my Warriors are black helmeted and the huscarls have white helmets. The Veterans have red helmets, so the huscarls get a white stripe. For the Forge Guard (who would be even more senior) I'm thinking either gold or blue (which would translate to the Iron Ancestor too)
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I played KoW this week for the first time in a couple weeks. It was my dwarfs against a cavalry-heavy, elite unit Varangur list. We both made mistakes (me, more than him, though) and it was a loss for my dwarfs. The first two turns consisted of me inching forward and trying to coax him into charging with his cavalry, which he wasn't doing for some reason. When he finally did, well, even the hardy Ironguard can't stand up to two regiments of Mounted Sons of Korgaan. Kind of wish I'd had Bulwarkers or that my opponent had set up some difficult terrain I could use to my advantage instead of only blocking terrain. His King on Chimera swept behind my lines and killed my war machines and proceeded to start flanking what was left of infantry support. On one flank, around two objectives, my elementals and a steel behemoth faced off against two hordes of trolls, a troll king, and a magus with a bunch of spells. I only managed to kill one group of trolls (regen, ugh!) and some of the cavalry. I'm really learning the value of multi-charging and killing things in one turn. Too bad our dwarfs don't hit hard enough, generally. The game itself was fine, but there were sportsmanship issues that made it miserable. My opponent regularly walked away from the table mid-turn to take phone calls (or for no obvious reason) making the game take ages. At one point, he inexplicably yelled at one of his units - yes, those inanimate objects on the table - loud enough to elicit staring from everyone in the shop... talk about awkward and uncomfortable. That makes two games in a row with similar experiences (this one was worse, though).
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Yvonmukluk posted:Worth reposting from the historicals thread: Thanks for this, that Pike & Shotte infantry should fill out a couple under strength units
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I got my wave 2 stuff for Walking Dead and I love a lot of the new models, both sculpt wise and ingame. It seems like more people have guns in general but there are also a decent amount of unarmed medics/civilians. The neoprene mats are bright and nicely detailed so hopefully, I'll be playing more of this game.
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I'm really pleased with how my Forge Fathers are coming together: I had to use a little greenstuff on the Warrior bodies because there's a little void that makes gluing hard - but other than that it's been easy as pie. I also did some arm-swaps on a couple of the Brokkrs. Since it went so well with my usual opponent, I think I'm going to get that Wayland Games support detachment with the weapon platforms and/or tank.
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Okay, I've finally managed to paint my Asterians to not look like garbage. Step 2 - figuring out how to eliminate mould lines on my next set of guys once and for all. I've never got the hang of it and would like to make sure the next set is an improvement, so I can replace guys eventually for cheap. Any advice?
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The Deleter posted:Okay, I've finally managed to paint my Asterians to not look like garbage. Step 2 - figuring out how to eliminate mould lines on my next set of guys once and for all. I've never got the hang of it and would like to make sure the next set is an improvement, so I can replace guys eventually for cheap. Any advice? this post is worthless without pictures. Mould lines are easy but tbh I never bother - scrape them off using the blade of scalpel or file them with a set of mini craft files (amazon, etc.). Speaking of mould lines, this is what my prospective Forge Guard looks like, although more old-and-clanky than rugged-and-venerated: 
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Southern Heel posted:this post is worthless without pictures. drat right it is. I don't have a good setup for images so apologies for phone pictures.  The crew. The color scheme is classic Cylon silver and black with some blue energy bits on. I need to go back around the bases with black, but the basic plan is Leadbelcher into a heavy Nuln Oil wash, follewed by highlighting with Army Painter silver, and Dark Reaper, then picking out energy bits and gemstones in Army Painter blue. The grey on the base is a mix of army painter black and white - I'm considering an extra drybrush on top.  The Bash Brothers. These guys have come out the nicest.  The Black Talon, not showing the terrible highlighting job, weirdly showing some gold for some reason? That's not there irl.  Was worried about the commander as I have a pretty limited color choice atm due to circumstances. I forwent doing the detail on his legs and his flesh bits because hahahaha gently caress no. Also I accidentally god some gold on his base, I'll clean that up later.  Not decided what to do with this dude's gun. Also I touched up too thick with the black on some parts of him. He looks fine on the tabletop which is all I care about. Doing drones next - feel I might get a chance to do some cleaner work with them.
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You should use a coloured wash instead of just plain black, IMO. For my Dwarf armoured dudes (who were also 99% metallic) I painted them black, then drybrushed progressively lighter metallic shades as usual, but then went back over with glazes - blue, green, red in splotches (albeit very transparent - just enough to very slightly tint the metallic), and where they converged you get a nice shade, then another quick drybrush of my lightest metallic colour. If you want to stick with plain metallics then might I suggest you weather them with browns and rusts, consider putting them in boggy/muddy bases with splatter, or if noothing else go for the 90's GW goblin-green base? They desperately need something with colour.
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Yeah you're right, they need something. I'll think about what I can add. The bases might be where to look - I'll see if I can't change it up for them. Maybe a Mars brown/red would work.
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If you want to keep the armour relatively plain silver, why not paint the ribbing/joints/etc. in something more contrasting like terracotta, navy blue, etc. ? I'm unsure where my Iron Ancestor will fit into things - on one hand he's going to be my commander (so, white?) but on the other hand he's clearly going to gently caress poo poo up with quad hailstorm autocannons (so, red?) Any advice greatly appreciated.
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I'm working through cleaning and assembling my Forge Fathers now, in anticipation of having all the infantry and guntracks done by the time my tanks arrive, then I can prime and basecoat everything on one big day. Working through the restic Brokkrs is taking some time, and the guntracks will need hot water too, but getting there. Still can't find the jetpack character from the DZ1 KS, but he's here somewhere, because I definitely received him. Going to try dry brushing a very light brown over the sand parts on the ones already done, I don't think I can do good edge highlights that small and that many. KoW news, renders of the upcoming Revenant King on Undead Wyrm,   Not sure if this is a planned option or just a rendering thing, but there's pics without the wings as well  
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Jun 12, 2017 15:46
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Southern Heel posted:this post is worthless without pictures. This looks great.
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^ they're a bit of a pain in the arse to paint, honestly - I've just got the bits for an airbrush so I'm hoping that'll speed things up. At least I've only got a couple  Just as I jump in with both feet into Advanced Song of Blades and Heroes, it seems that the skirmish KoW is announced on the FB page....
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Airbrushing speeds things up immensely when doing large minis, or large numbers of small minis with the same scheme
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Yes, I just don't know what I NEED to get started, I have a cheap single-action airbrush, compressor and a bunch of vallejo brush paints.
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NTRabbit posted:KoW news, renders of the upcoming Revenant King on Undead Wyrm, I picked up this classic on eBay for mine: 
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DiceBagLady's new KS would make for most of a good Rebs team in Deadzone Also, snap poll, which one of these metallics (the new Vallejo Metal Colors) would make the best base for Asterians, with the highlights to be done in metallic purple, and jade green? I was thinking maybe a dark one like 720, 723, or Magnesium, but 707/Chrome has some appeal as well. Was originally going to be metallic purple all over with green highlights, but that's just going to be too difficult for the wax based AK Interactive true metal purple paint I have, and I think it might end up being too colourful after seeing how good the more natural metal colour looks on The Deleter's Cyphers.  
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I'm getting the Deadzone starter set. How's the game's life going? I feel it may be on the out though, especially with 8th edition. Any thoughts?
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I think every game is going to suffer from Malibu Stacy getting a new hat, at least for a while, it's unavoidable
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Mantic is Lisa Lionheart
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NTRabbit posted:Not sure if this is a planned option or just a rendering thing, but there's pics without the wings as well Wings are optional in the army list, so I'm guessing it's planned.
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I get why it doesn't have legs (as a wyrm), but I think that's what detracts from it for me. It doesn't look fast/threatening just squished up on the ground like that. A more dynamic pose would really help - rearing up on top of a boulder or something to that effect - and it could still fit on a 50x50 base (which I assume is why it's all squished up to begin with).
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It looks too big, I figured it's be around the size of the Naiad mounts.
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I think it's actually been designed around the 75x75mm square base that the Dungeon Saga dragon and Greater Earth Elemental/Obsidian Golem were given
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NTRabbit posted:I think it's actually been designed around the 75x75mm square base that the Dungeon Saga dragon and Greater Earth Elemental/Obsidian Golem were given This is not a trend I'm a fan of. The rules of the game are for 50mm monsters, not 75mm. Larger models are harder to transport. And it just screams "big centerpiece models" which Kings of War isn't really about.
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Yeah I don't like it either, and there were some critics when it was brought up on facebook; that being said, I don't think anyone from Mantic confirmed what base size the sculptor was working from.
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Atlas Hugged posted:This is not a trend I'm a fan of. The rules of the game are for 50mm monsters, not 75mm. Larger models are harder to transport. And it just screams "big centerpiece models" which Kings of War isn't really about. For the most part I agree with you, but as a caveat the rules for monsters say the following: Exceptional Base Sizes posted:You may need a wider or deeper base for exceptionally large heroes, monsters or war engines - in such rare cases, use the smallest base that you can fit your model on. I know you're well aware of this, I'm just quoting it because I'm feeling a little pedantic  Said rule is fine for people using other models or from other games where they're too big or unwieldy to be put on 50mm bases, but their official models ought to actually fit on 50mm bases and not use exceptional base sizes as justification for making dragons and golems on 75mm bases. It's strange and kind of stupid.
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http://www.manticgames.com/mantic-shop/kings-of-war/edge-of-the-abyss.html Soft launch for the summer campaign Edge of the Abyss, with 5 new resin character/hero minis up for preorder - Artakl, Gekkotah Clutch Warden; Mau`Ti-Bu-Su, Abyssal Temptress; Magnilde, Varangur Demon Hunter; Eckter, Placoderm Defender; and Jarvis, Ophidian Obsessed Academic. Firestorm games also has a preorder up for a new 2 player starter called The Battle of the Glades, this one Nature vs Abyssals with 20 Hard Plastic Naiad Ensnarers/Heartpiercers, 20 Hard Plastic Salamanders, 1 Metal Druid, 20 Hard Plastic Lower Abyssals/Flamebearers, 20 Hard Plastic Succubi, 1 Metal Abyssal Champion, and 1 Kings of War Gamer’s Edition Rulebook. NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 11:53 on Jun 15, 2017 |
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Slimnoid posted:It's strange and kind of stupid. Yes it is. We want to make them upgradeable in 3rd edition so the 75mm base comes with extra benefits, but taking it up with Mantic to bring those plans forwards because it's getting a bit ridiculous now.
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