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SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

WELL THAT JUST HAPPENED!

Reiterpallasch posted:

dgkk 's been running one-shot clear groups including players that've never been in the instance before

I'm 0-for-2 with goon groups from dgkk that had people that previously cleared. Small sample size, I'll admit, but it doesn't help that it takes 30 minutes to corrall a group that ultimately can't clear.

EDIT: I'll be on tonight to give it another try

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Saint Freak
Apr 16, 2007

Regretting is an insult to oneself
Buglord

boy are my arms tired posted:

poo poo man how'd you get into susano with ilvl 116 you must be a god drat wizard

Starting set is like 115 right? The man just wanted to stay canon.

OWLS!
Sep 17, 2009

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
With any group you sort of roll the dice.

Susano is a really really tight fight. And my biggest problem with it have been healers not pulling their weight oddly enough. And at this point I've seen more tanks loving up and no popping cooldowns/swapping than DPS loving up levinbolts.

Brainamp
Sep 4, 2011

More Zen than Zenyatta

Ainsley McTree posted:

How long has this been in the game??? I want that

You can get it from the wolves den or the golden saucer. The wolves den one is easier to get considering the time investment.

SwissArmyDruid
Feb 14, 2014

by sebmojo

Rainuwastaken posted:

Aquapolis 2 looks to be more of the same, but with some new gimmick coming in 4.1?



Apparently there's Rowena's new outfit and catfish minion to get in there, among other things. Can't wait to get screwed by RNG.

Huh. I woulda sworn they were going to put Rowena's ao dai into the cash shop.

SonicRulez posted:

I have yet to try Aquapolis. I thought it was more of a gatherer thing?

Ehhh, technically. Gatherers are the ones who dig up the maps that potentially unlock portals to the Aquapolis. But it's a combat instance.

Mordiceius
Nov 10, 2007

If you think calling me names is gonna get a rise out me, think again. I like my life as an idiot!

SonicRulez posted:

I have yet to try Aquapolis. I thought it was more of a gatherer thing?

Message Mordiceius Ketsumei in game and I'll take you on an Aquapolis adventure.

As I've said before, Aquapolis is legitimately my favorite content ever added to the game. On Tuesday when everyone is freaking out about Omega Savage, I'm going to be chain running Lost Canals.

One benefit of running Aquapolis 1.0 right now is that the prices of stuff in there has actually gone up since no one is producing a lot of HW crafting materials anymore. Plus, I expect tree prices to dramatically spike in 4.1 with Shirogane. And Wool Tops are back to 1m in price.

SL the Pyro
Jun 16, 2013

My soul cries out
with the desire to
FRACTURE
your puny spine.


what do you mean that hotkey disappeared
I once saw a Susano EX group with a hypercompetent healer who told us not to give a poo poo about the lightning markers and would consistently throw out 10k+ heals so we could just keep wailing on the boss. :aaaaa:

Granted, this is still inferior to tanking the boss up at the edge of the sinking line so people who have to hop over can still attack, but the fight really isn't as hard to heal as people think if bullshit like the above is possible. The only reason I die tanking the fight at this point (in full Slaying right-sides, I might add) is because the Healer is either raising some dumbfuck or just outright forgets.

Fortuitous Bumble
Jan 5, 2007

I'm on Excalibur as Ross Perot and I would be willing to heal some Susano clears if you send me a tell, I'm usually on late at night central time.

I did wipe a Susano yesterday when we started the fight and then I found out half my hotbars were missing, and a couple weeks ago I accidentally hit the rescue button on the tank just before a Stormsplitter, but I'm otherwise pretty consistent with not wiping anyone's parties.

Jinh
Sep 12, 2008

Fun Shoe
Yeah I'm magic so what (fixed it)

I've never seen a healer that good. susano does feel like a super heal intensive fight, and good healers make an enormous impact on whether you get a clear or not. I usually take rez duty because rdm lol and it helps a lot I think, I only lose a GCD and they can keep up their group heals.

Also a good tip is to tank the boss close to the center of the arena as well as close to the line. His knockbacks won't move you as far since you will hit the wall, and it lets you move north which is handy sometimes for melee.

Jinh fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Jul 14, 2017

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

SL the Pyro posted:

I once saw a Susano EX group with a hypercompetent healer who told us not to give a poo poo about the lightning markers and would consistently throw out 10k+ heals so we could just keep wailing on the boss. :aaaaa:

Granted, this is still inferior to tanking the boss up at the edge of the sinking line so people who have to hop over can still attack, but the fight really isn't as hard to heal as people think if bullshit like the above is possible. The only reason I die tanking the fight at this point (in full Slaying right-sides, I might add) is because the Healer is either raising some dumbfuck or just outright forgets.

It is very possible to heal through the lightning but it puts more strain on your healers for other mistakes and there's very little good reason not to just do the mechanic.

Mordiceius
Nov 10, 2007

If you think calling me names is gonna get a rise out me, think again. I like my life as an idiot!
But really though, I'll probably be running a lot of Aquapolis 1.0 groups this weekend because I need to get to room 7 four more times for my achievement. So if anyone wants to go have treasure hunt fun times, look me up in game.

ZenMasterBullshit
Nov 2, 2011

Restaurant de Nouvelles "À Table" Proudly Presents:
A Climactic Encounter Ending on 1 Negate and a Dream
So I made an alt on Excal to play with goons from time to time. Who did i need to bother about getting into one of the FCs?

SwissArmyDruid
Feb 14, 2014

by sebmojo

SL the Pyro posted:

I once saw a Susano EX group with a hypercompetent healer who told us not to give a poo poo about the lightning markers and would consistently throw out 10k+ heals so we could just keep wailing on the boss. :aaaaa:

Granted, this is still inferior to tanking the boss up at the edge of the sinking line so people who have to hop over can still attack, but the fight really isn't as hard to heal as people think if bullshit like the above is possible. The only reason I die tanking the fight at this point (in full Slaying right-sides, I might add) is because the Healer is either raising some dumbfuck or just outright forgets.

And then the other tank is so incompetent that as soon as they provoke for Stormsplitter, they completely annihilate your work in perfectly positioning the boss. :cripes:

boy are my arms tired
May 10, 2012

Ham Wrangler

Jinh posted:

Yeah I'm magic so what (fixed it)

I've never seen a healer that good. susano does feel like a super heal intensive fight, and good healers make an enormous impact on whether you get a clear or not. I usually take rez duty because rdm lol and it helps a lot I think, I only lose a GCD and they can keep up their group heals.

i'm just yanking ur chain

susano is extremely solo-healable, my static's other healer basically soloed the whole thing while i put out sick whm dps. the issue is its entirely dependent on the rest of the team doing mechanics / rotating cooldowns properly and not zoning out; mp is a very real issue if too many mistakes are made

Mordiceius
Nov 10, 2007

If you think calling me names is gonna get a rise out me, think again. I like my life as an idiot!
Oh gently caress. Apparently Lost Canals goes 10 rooms deep. :suicide:

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:


I never once made it to the final floor of Aquapolis :(

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Ciaphas posted:

I never once made it to the final floor of Aquapolis :(

I once did it three times in a row.

I've never seen it since then.

Mordiceius
Nov 10, 2007

If you think calling me names is gonna get a rise out me, think again. I like my life as an idiot!

Ciaphas posted:

I never once made it to the final floor of Aquapolis :(

Let's change that, buddy! :buddy:

SettingSun
Aug 10, 2013

I've been there once. It was a good day.

BetterToRuleInHell
Jul 2, 2007

Touch my mask top
Get the chop chop
My DGKK Susan aka partydad clear story:

Joined a group because people BEGGED me (gotta have a taste of that Baph, it's understandable ;) ), it was my newbie run with at least one other person, didn't discord/mumble with anyone, and watched Mizteq's clear video about 1 minute for we ran it. Was supremely nervous, I honestly feel like if we wipe on stuff like this, I'm dragging people down. That made my anxiety 10x worse.

Despite my two deaths, we cleared it on the first try, and it honestly felt like it was handled really good for like 95% of the fight. People stacked, people scattered, moved lightning drops, etc.

That is my DGKK story :)

Brainamp
Sep 4, 2011

More Zen than Zenyatta

Ciaphas posted:

I never once made it to the final floor of Aquapolis :(

The dungeon can sense your desire, so you gotta empty your mind of all hope of reaching the bottom floor.

EponymousMrYar
Jan 4, 2015

The enemy of my enemy is my enemy.

Brainamp posted:

The dungeon can sense your desire, so you gotta empty your mind of all hope of reaching the bottom floor.

Also you must hold no hesitation in your heart for Fortune favors the Bold.

Jinh
Sep 12, 2008

Fun Shoe

boy are my arms tired posted:

i'm just yanking ur chain

susano is extremely solo-healable, my static's other healer basically soloed the whole thing while i put out sick whm dps. the issue is its entirely dependent on the rest of the team doing mechanics / rotating cooldowns properly and not zoning out; mp is a very real issue if too many mistakes are made

Ik ik :v: Yeah I usually wind up mana shifting whichever healer runs low first or dies after using mp cooldowns, and zoning out is the #1 killer. I feel like you need to put "Bring Coffee" in your PF descriptions because people (especially, again, healers) can get super into looking at the various bars and not notice the red or purple icon on their head.

VHGS
Jul 24, 2013

Jinh posted:

Also a good tip is to tank the boss close to the center of the arena as well as close to the line. His knockbacks won't move you as far since you will hit the wall, and it lets you move north which is handy sometimes for melee.

You can just have him close to the wall and run in front when you get targeted for even less distance. Only stormsplitter is a cleave, so you don't really have to worry about anything, except for certain cloud spawns that can make it awkward.

Cirina
Feb 15, 2013

Operation complete.

EponymousMrYar posted:

Also you must hold no hesitation in your heart for Fortune favors the Bold.

Also remember to always pick Left, the one true door.

BetterToRuleInHell
Jul 2, 2007

Touch my mask top
Get the chop chop

Ciaphas posted:

I never once made it to the final floor of Aquapolis :(

I'm pretty sure that when when it comes using my own maps and getting the Polis portal, I've done more full clears than not.

Does Polis even do the fakouts anymore? I haven't seen that in a long time.

Mordiceius
Nov 10, 2007

If you think calling me names is gonna get a rise out me, think again. I like my life as an idiot!

Eopia posted:

Also remember to always pick Left, the one true door.

Left is always right.

I've learned that like an elderly woman at a casino slot machine, I have rituals and taboos every time I run Aquapolis. It's dumb, but I have made it to the final room 16 times.

EponymousMrYar
Jan 4, 2015

The enemy of my enemy is my enemy.

Eopia posted:

Also remember to always pick Left, the one true door.

I've had more luck with Right Door, the door of lies and deceit for I am not the Fool Who Follows, I am the Fool of my own failures.

Rascyc
Jan 23, 2008

Dissatisfied Puppy
I don't know if this is true but I find it an especially hilarious thought:

quote:

Some people are just using follow macros the whole time. I had a warrior just follow me for an entire round, if I'd die he'd die shortly after, then he'd respawn and keep following me.

I investigated a bit and botting is actually causing issues to botters themselves! There are so many botters in PVP now that their auto-follow method isn't working because bots are following each other so you end up with clusters of AFK, just like in your picture, so now they tell people to monitor and blacklist other botters so that they don't follow each other.

Brainamp
Sep 4, 2011

More Zen than Zenyatta

BetterToRuleInHell posted:

Does Polis even do the fakouts anymore? I haven't seen that in a long time.

They got patched to be even more dickish.


Eopia posted:

Also remember to always pick Left, the one true door.

I've never made to the bottom by going right. I've also never gone right at all.

BetterToRuleInHell
Jul 2, 2007

Touch my mask top
Get the chop chop

Mordiceius posted:

Left is always right.

I've learned that I am like an elderly woman at a casino slot machine, I have rituals and taboos every time I run Aquapolis. It's dumb, but I have made it to the final room 16 times.

I do a simplified Konami code

Left, left, right, right, left, right

60% of the time it worked every time

Ainsley McTree
Feb 19, 2004


I heard the final room of aquapolis just has three scratched off 10k cactpot tickets in it

SettingSun
Aug 10, 2013

The Aquapolis fakeouts are amazing and honestly half the reason why I go in there at all. The other half is of course posing for the door cutscenes.

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk
College Slice
I have something like 20 maps saved up, ready for the Lost Canals. I don't actually know exactly how many I have because the vast majority of them are locked safely in a friend's mailbox

Mordiceius
Nov 10, 2007

If you think calling me names is gonna get a rise out me, think again. I like my life as an idiot!

Ainsley McTree posted:

I heard the final room of aquapolis just has three scratched off 10k cactpot tickets in it

More like loot often worth over a million per item and 100k Gil just for getting there. With the price of dragon skin maps right now, you profit off Aquapolis just from entering.

m.hache
Dec 1, 2004


Fun Shoe

BetterToRuleInHell posted:

I do a simplified Konami code

Left, left, right, right, left, right

60% of the time it worked every time

I'm pretty sure I was in the group with you when we did this. We got so close to the end.

SettingSun
Aug 10, 2013

What's the current going price for (Dragonskin) maps? A few months ago they were going for 50k or so and even then you would easily turn a profit from just buying them alone.

Galaga Galaxian
Apr 23, 2009

What a childish tactic!
Don't you think you should put more thought into your battleplan?!


I got to the final door my first time and busted. Never been there again.

Mordiceius
Nov 10, 2007

If you think calling me names is gonna get a rise out me, think again. I like my life as an idiot!

SettingSun posted:

What's the current going price for (Dragonskin) maps? A few months ago they were going for 50k or so and even then you would easily turn a profit from just buying them alone.

They're usually sitting about 5k-10k on the market.

I'll be home in a few hours and I'll probably be running Aquapolis all night for anyone interested.

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Sotar
Dec 1, 2009
Aquapolis is where dreams come true

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