moths posted:

There are genestealer cults in Necromunda, but they're just operating in small packs rather than as a world-wide conspiracy.

I'm surprised at all the content they've been able to stuff into Necromunda, but there's still a lot that hasn't returned.

At one point it was an Imperial Fists recruiting world.

Teen children of nobility would don superhero suits to hunt gangers for sport. It was a twisted coming of age ritual.

Whole gangs of mutant "scavvys" would form, eventually forming armies when united under a scavvy king.

A Plague Zombie outbreak was worsened by a psyker who was able to influence the dead.

I'm hopeful that some of the weirder stuff will show up in the next big expansion.

moths posted:

At one point it was an Imperial Fists recruiting world.

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neaden posted:

The Imperium explicitly considers democracy to be heresy, since it's teaching that leaders can change instead of just obeying your superiors. The Blood Ravens homeworld was destroyed for it for example.

moths posted:

There are genestealer cults in Necromunda, but they're just operating in small packs rather than as a world-wide conspiracy.

I'm surprised at all the content they've been able to stuff into Necromunda, but there's still a lot that hasn't returned.

At one point it was an Imperial Fists recruiting world.

Teen children of nobility would don superhero suits to hunt gangers for sport. It was a twisted coming of age ritual.

Whole gangs of mutant "scavvys" would form, eventually forming armies when united under a scavvy king.

A Plague Zombie outbreak was worsened by a psyker who was able to influence the dead.

I'm hopeful that some of the weirder stuff will show up in the next big expansion.

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

there's also one novella about the spyrers (the noble teens to go human hunting in their murdersuits) that leads all the way to hive bottom

Space Marine by Ian Watson posted:

“Lexandro d’Arquebus,” demanded the possessor of that extraordinary physique, “what is the name of the Emperor?”
“I d-don’t know, sir,” Lexandro stuttered; and for once the title of Sir came sincerely to his lips. He gritted his teeth, angry at his tongue for having tripped him. He had never stuttered before, neither during his humiliating initiation into the Lordly Phantasms, nor on any subsequent hazardous escapade with them. Nor even when the d’Arquebus family was demoted. However, this was different. Goose bumps pocked his bare flesh. He felt genuine awe at this superhuman man, at once so puissant, so self-possessed, so monomaniac in his demeanour.
How could he answer? Surely no one knew the name of the distant, immortal Lord of Mankind – in whom Lexandro had only ever felt the most casual interest since his early catechisms.
“Awesome is His name, sir,” he suggested, and the giant almost smiled.
“So I am your Emperor here, it seems. True enough. In His name I can crush you – or increase you. Think carefully: would you become a Space Marine in His service?”

Space Marine by Ian Watson posted:

“Yeremi Valence,” said the Marine, “what is the name of the Emperor?”
“Of the Godfather of All?” whispered Yeremi, haunted by the memory of Yakobi being forced towards the heat-sink.
“Willpower: the Godfather’s name is that. Willpower supreme.”
“A good answer to a question that has no simple answer. A reverent answer. A forceful answer.”
“Why, then, Sir, is it His will that we in our hive are beset by so many enemies within? Above and below. Why does Will not breed stronger Law?”
The Marine regarded Yeremi with increasing interest. “For thus, Yeremi Valence, is the condition of the galaxy itself. As above, so below! Enemies fester everywhere. Foes and traitors. The miracle is that His will prevails generally across a million worlds. And it shall prevail, indomitably! Through death, through blood. That is the only universal law.”
Yeremi thought of the remote Lord Helmawr plucking the strands of the web of Necromunda. The Imperial Governor could only ever heed truly weighty wasps that sought to tear that web apart – not the myriad mites that bit one another.
In the Godly mind of the Emperor whole worlds might well be mere mites… A yawning, awesome, black perspective opened within Yeremi’s soul.
“Would you yield yourself to Him utterly Yeremi Valence, to help impose His will?” asked the Marine.

Space Marine by Ian Watson posted:

“Biff Tundrish,” said the huge man in yellow and blue.
However, he continued by using swank-words that Biff couldn’t comprend at all. Biff shook his head, rattling his beads, and answered in scumlingo,
slowly, to show that he couldn’t savvy.
The giant nodded. Presently a trooper appeared and translated, after a fashion, glaring hostilely at Biff. “Bigman says: you give him namenz of the Emp.”
Biff puzzled his brains. He thunk fast. The Emp was the Emp, natch. Techs worshipped the Emp. Even scum swore by the Emp. On occasion; mostly they jus’ swore. The Emp was mega-bossgod. Yet who was the Emp? Where was the Emp?
Everywhere. Nowhere.
Somewhere.
Not here.
Not in Trazior.
So maybe nowhere near.
Maybe the Emp was further away than Biff could imagine.
And even more mega. What was the most mega thing Biff knew? He stared the giant in the eye, and said boldly:
“Emp’s namenz is Bigger-Than-You. Emp’s namenz is Death.”
The giant seemed to understand even before the trooper turned Biff’s utterance into swank-words. He smiled faintly.

Geisladisk posted:

Yeah, canonically the imperium doesn't give a poo poo what form of government a place has so long as it pays lip service to the emperor, isn't involved with chaos or aliens, and pays it's tithes on time.

AnEdgelord posted:

Even if you had a vaguely democratic system the local Cardinal is going to be exerting an extreme amount of pressure to get his way.

Gravitas Shortfall posted:

The tension of trying to run a vaguely fair democratic state while under the heel of a galaxy spanning fascist regime would be neat fodder for a book.

Al-Saqr posted:

I actually have an idea for this type of thing, although i dont know if GW accepts book idea solicitations from non brits

moths posted:

There are genestealer cults in Necromunda, but they're just operating in small packs rather than as a world-wide conspiracy.

I'm surprised at all the content they've been able to stuff into Necromunda, but there's still a lot that hasn't returned.

At one point it was an Imperial Fists recruiting world.

Teen children of nobility would don superhero suits to hunt gangers for sport. It was a twisted coming of age ritual.

Whole gangs of mutant "scavvys" would form, eventually forming armies when united under a scavvy king.

A Plague Zombie outbreak was worsened by a psyker who was able to influence the dead.

I'm hopeful that some of the weirder stuff will show up in the next big expansion.

neaden posted:

Black Library periodically accepts open submissions, but they'll name a specific subject and length. The last one was early 2023 and a 100 word summary and 500 word sample of a short story on a successor chapter. I don't think they accept pitches, unless maybe you're an author they've worked with before.

Gravitas Shortfall posted:

Time to quote my favourite piece of Necromunda related fiction. Three boys from Hive Trazior - one upper hive hedonist, one low-hive technician, and one hive scum ganger - are selected for screening, to see if they would make suitable aspirants for the Imperial Fists. Having made it through the biological and psychic tests, they're interviewed by an Imperial Fists Sergeant, and asked a simple question.

Super Waffle posted:

Do Escher heads fit well/scale well for Sister of Battle? Might make me some Punk Rock Sisters for my next army.

Syncopated posted:

I’ve never gotten around to reading Watson, is he generally this good? Or is the rest just tyranid butthole stuff?

Syncopated posted:

I’ve never gotten around to reading Watson, is he generally this good? Or is the rest just tyranid butthole stuff?

The Demilich posted:

Don't talk to me or my son ever again

_{MKX Tacticus vs updated MKVI}

This size disparity is killing me.

AnEdgelord posted:

This is extremely overstated in fan discussion about 40k, what's actually depicted in the fiction is that the Adminstratum doesn't care so long as tithe obligations are met (and they may just randomly raise them on you) but that the Ecclesiarchy and High Nobility of the Imperium VERY MUCH care about what type of government a planet has and will always put their thumb on the scale for any form of repressive hierarchy whether it takes the form of an aristocratic oligarchy, military dictatorship or theocracy. Even if you had a vaguely democratic system the local Cardinal is going to be exerting an extreme amount of pressure to get his way.

Cease to Hope posted:

words about CSM book

Nazzadan posted:

AndyElusive posted:

You guys don't think the slender legs give the Raptors a more suitable avian appearance?

Coldbird posted:

I think you’re generally closer to my thoughts than those in the Goonhammer codex review.

I really like the concept of the Renegade Raiders detachment, and it (unlike many others) it feels like it has a real plan to win, a general shape and intent of play for real games - but I think it falls apart on current points values. The detachment is built around charges out of transports with shooting and biker support, and your two real options for charges out of transports are legionaries (decent, but their rule is redundant to the headline stratagem here) and chosen (real expensive for a pretty fragile unit). Your other options are termies or possessed out of a land raider. Termies are overcosted and their rule is also redundant, and possessed just don’t make sense anymore - not unless their points get cut so much that they become a plain old stat line speed bump you throw in front of things, rather than a heavy hitter unit. Leaves your best use case with a bunch of overcosted Chosen. (If Chosen come down to 110 or 115 for 5, Raiders likely shoot up to top tier.)

I feel like the Warpack will still see a lot of use by degenerate stat-check bullshit players. It’s got some neat gimmicks but it feels like it’s already designed to run out of gas turn 3 or so against any serious opposition.

Personally, I build my own lists specifically to punish vehicle/monster skew guys for their sins. I accept that I won’t win any tournament I’m in, as long as the vehicle/monster skew guys lose.

The other, more serious gripe, though - as long as Warpack exists, demon engines will be costed based on their use case for the Warpack. To me, this means that my three Maulerfiends (among other things) are guaranteed to stay on the shelf this edition. They will never make sense in a Word Bearers list as long as the Warpack rules are real and people play them. It’s really depressing when you think about GW falling into these obvious design traps.

At first I thought the Iron Warriors rules might have real play. The biggest problem with playing traditional CSMs right now - I mean a good mixed-arms rush list that hits hard, and not AC/DC spam or that Abaddon gunline horseshit - is that you can rack up a huge lead but it’s incredibly easy to simply get bodied right off the table around turn 3 or 4. CSMs were reliant on all the critical 5s because that was the only way they’d do enough damage to keep from getting obliterated by a single counterpunch. Even then it still happened a lot. When I saw Iron Warriors at first, I thought, oh, a way to make gunline lists suffer - I’m interested. The more I think about it, though, it feels like you’re just going to pact yourself to death while you die to melee instead of shooting.

I was kind of surprised at how mediocre the black legion rules were.

Overall it feels like it’s easy for people to fixate on a few buffs (like warp talons, which will probably be nerfed in the next dataslate), but miss that the overall picture here is more nerfs than buffs. The army is in a worse place now and warp talons don’t make up for that. The dark pacts nerf in particular isn’t one you can get away from by just replacing bad units.

I’ll be sticking to the Word Bearers rules for the moment - I feel like the army lives or dies by it’s ability to hit super hard - but if it turns into a situation where only Warpack is viable, that to me is just design failure.

Nazzadan posted:

I think it works better for the Warp Talons, with the Raptors even with their avian names my mental image of them is basically just a chaos assault marine, chunkiness intact. Lucoryphus was always called a raptor in the NL books but everything about him screamed Warp Talon to me, as correct or incorrect as that may be.

Gravitas Shortfall posted:

I always thought of Luc and his Raptors as looking like the 4th-edition ones



Much more predatory and avian, hunched appearance, and with feet that don't look like they're much use on the ground. I'd love for the models to go back to this direction, especially the jetpacks.

Yvonmukluk posted:

I think they used these jet packs as reference for the Mk VI assault squad.

Was there ever an explanation why the studio paint scheme for these doesn’t correspond to any legion? It’s a great scheme but it’s rather odd when you think about it.