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Warbird
May 23, 2012

America's Favorite Dumbass

He certainly could. I'm flying out in the morning to the states. I eagerly await the 6 hour layover in Shanghai. Any hot tips to pass the time?

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Ailumao
Nov 4, 2004

Grand Fromage posted:

Yeah I really can't think of any advantage of those places except showing off you can afford it.

Most normal restaurants will give you a room if you have more than 10~ people or so by default at no extra cost anyway.

RocknRollaAyatollah
Nov 26, 2008

Lipstick Apathy

Warbird posted:

He certainly could. I'm flying out in the morning to the states. I eagerly await the 6 hour layover in Shanghai. Any hot tips to pass the time?

You could conceivably go into the city by taxi and do something but I wouldn't do anything that took more than 2 hours. Unless you want to buy something before you go I'd just goon it up on your laptop/tablet to be on the safe side.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


The Shanghai airport was so poorly signed that it'll probably take six hours just to find your plane.

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

Taxi? Take the MagLev! :science:

RocknRollaAyatollah
Nov 26, 2008

Lipstick Apathy

Jeoh posted:

Taxi? Take the MagLev! :science:

To the middle of nowhere in Pudong, where you have to take the subway for an hour or a taxi to get to civilization.

angel opportunity
Sep 7, 2004

Total Eclipse of the Heart
My fav thing about Shanghai is that there are two airports and it takes over an hour to go from one to another, and you'll often have a flight land in one and then need to switch airports to fly out

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

angel opportunity posted:

My fav thing about Shanghai is that there are two airports and it takes over an hour to go from one to another, and you'll often have a flight land in one and then need to switch airports to fly out

This happened to my wife when she was pregnant flying back to Tianjin via Shanghai. They just changed her airport on arrival and she had all this luggage and you can just imagine how helpful the airlines or any local person was. She said there was a foreigner there who carried the two heavy bags for her and got her a seat on the bus so if that was any of you, big ups to that and beers on me if we ever meet.

she also got in six hours late and when I checked online on her flight it said "on time" so I went to the airport to meet her and when I got there the flight info said N/A and I asked someone working what it meant and they said "I don't know" which of course I should have expected, don't even know why I bothered asking anyone. Waited an hour and a half and went home, she got in at 4:45am and the site on the Internet had reported the flight was on time when in reality it hadn't even began to think about leaving.

The moral of this story, as every story ever told in China, is "5,000 years of culture and evolution"

Ailumao
Nov 4, 2004

angel opportunity posted:

My fav thing about Shanghai is that there are two airports and it takes over an hour to go from one to another, and you'll often have a flight land in one and then need to switch airports to fly out

This is why Hongqiao or bust.

Warbird
May 23, 2012

America's Favorite Dumbass

The lady with China Eastern charged me extra for my bags despite me having LESS weight than when I flew in on the same airline with no fees then. Upon arriving in Shanghai I waited 2 hours for the airport staff to, well, staff the Air Canada counter so I could check my bags. No internet through all this mind you. I did manage to sweet talk one of the workers at a restaurant in the terminal to let me use their wifi and even got my VPN going on it. Gate got switched across the building and we had to share seats with another Air Canada flight leaving from the same gate 15 minutes before we did. Some nice Hong Kong/Canadian older gentleman did allow me to mooch off his cell data via hotspot to text my family, which was very nice of him. We were late getting out of Shanghai and my 2 hour layover in Toronto turned into an hour layover which turned into 50 minutes of "no really, where is my luggage" which turned into a 20 minute wait at the customer service counter, which then turned into me sprinting across the Toronto airport spewing a stream of swears and me commandeering a golf cart. I made the flight, my bags did not. It's been an interesting day.

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
I'm surprised you guys up north can actually fly, it's just a giant smoggy wasteland.

And seriously everyone, get internet.

The Great Autismo! posted:

This happened to my wife when she was pregnant flying back to Tianjin via Shanghai.

Why did you let your wife fly pregnant by herself and why did she not get any travel insurance.

Warbird
May 23, 2012

America's Favorite Dumbass

There was apparently some ongoing weather related clusterfuck in Toronto, but Shanghai was pretty clear.

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
Go winter! Not that close to toronto, but a storm none the less

air- posted:

DFW got hit hard by a winter storm the other day and had a ton of cancellations/diverted flights. Not my pic but this was the baggage area at AUS:



I have a friend from Houston flying out for her vacation in Japan the other day. She was originally set to fly out of DFW and ended up having to drive back to Houston! Glad I'm not going anywhere for a while.

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

caberham posted:

Why did you let your wife fly pregnant by herself

I am kind enough to give her permission to do things on her own sometimes as an individual person, probably a bit difficult for some people in China to understand I know.

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer

The Great Autismo! posted:

I am kind enough to give her permission to do things on her own sometimes as an individual person, probably a bit difficult for some people in China to understand I know.

She needs your permission to fly?

It's just a lot better, and safer to travel with your wife, especially when she's pregnant. And dealing with transfers, in China no less during this smog filled winter.

The situation would have been a lot less stressful for your wife if it was you taking her of her and relying on an act of kindness from a random stranger.

I really do like your new handle GTA

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

caberham posted:

She needs your permission to fly?

lol no, I was making a joke. I'm so tired and just don't have the energy to explain basic English posts but I'll do it once more

when you said I "let her fly by herself", I was working the day she flew and the next day, I can't just spend two whole days of my life flying around to make sure that something simple like one transfer in China doesn't get completely ruined by China. But of course it does, because China.

caberham posted:

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The situation would have been a lot less stressful for your wife if it was you taking her of her and relying on an act of kindness from a random stranger.
Amazing insight caberham, thank you for this, sure clears up any doubt I had about "does my wife feel more comfortable traveling with me or does she prefer to rely on numerous Chinese people gawking at her before a random foreigner helps her travel across the city", I'll make sure she gets the memo that I'm the better choice

angel opportunity
Sep 7, 2004

Total Eclipse of the Heart
rofl

angel opportunity
Sep 7, 2004

Total Eclipse of the Heart
why did your wife have a difficult day at work? Why weren't you there to accompany through her hard day?

SB35
Jul 6, 2007
Move along folks, nothing to see here.
Wait, is Great Autismo's wife a white pregnant lady?

Also, why the F don't you guys have SIM cards so you can, you know, communicate flight issues?

Warbird, you were there for a week+ and never ventured out without a chaperone and therefore didn't have a sim or what?

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
My wife is no longer pregnant, we have a child, and she's not white.

The phone thing was my fault, we share a phone, that's our culture, please respect it

Warbird
May 23, 2012

America's Favorite Dumbass

SB35 posted:

Warbird, you were there for a week+ and never ventured out without a chaperone and therefore didn't have a sim or what?

Pretty much. I could have gone solo for a walk or something, but pointing and gesturing only take you so far. It's the first time she had been home for a period of time in nearly a decade, so unless she took the mother-in-law's phone with her when she left she would have no cell anything either.

IT BURNS
Nov 19, 2012

Trip report: Guangzhou

So, this actually wasn't the first time I've been to China. In 2001, I went to Beijing, Xian, Tianjin, Qingqing (which was actually my favorite, mostly because of the food and the neat cityscape), Chengdu, Zhenzhou, and then back to Beijing. I was supposed to go to Hong Kong, but that part of my visit was cancelled, so I mostly stayed up north. Coming to a city in the south was a very different experience, and a good one in many respects.

Had a pretty good flight with China Southern. The attendants were friendly, the plane didn't crash (although the pilot seemed to take what seemed to be an inordinately long time to land, I dunno), and it was pretty clean and well-maintained. Yay. (N.B. - very different from my experience flying back to the States on United, which managed to turn a 30-hour door-to-door trip into a 63-hour trip, and NOT because of weather).

I get to the long line in customs at Baiyun, and holy gently caress there was a tense moment when I handed my passport/visa to the attendant and she made an angry face, typed in a bunch of stuff into her computer and asked, "Sir, did you just come from Singapore?" (to which I meekly smiled and nodded my head) before typing in more stuff and letting me through. The agency I used to get my visa made a big deal about THEY CAN STILL DENY YOU ENTRY, so I was on edge about acclimating to this aspect of 5,000 years of culture.

Anyway, so GZ is a pretty cool town with lots of good eats and a fairly active night life. The thing that seemed immediately different to me from China 2001 was the level of commercialism and (slightly?) greater wealth that individuals seemed to have. Minus the sanitation, hellacious traffic/driving, and so on, it seemed to be an international city in many respects. On the other hand, some of the stereotypical excesses of western society that I didn't experience on my first trip cropped up a number of times on this visit - people getting fall-down drunk, making a scene, smashing bottles, etc. I do have to say that there were a lot of good clubs, and choosing the right one meant a good time as opposed to getting stabbed for being a white devil. All in all, I saw some good sights, ate lots of good Cantonese food, and hung out with some good peeps.

The pollution wasn't too bad. The day I arrived, it was fairly clear and then it got hazy for about two days before clearing up. I guess this isn't so much of an issue as it is in Beijing.

Long story short - would definitely go back and take time to dig a little deeper and explore Hong Kong and Shenzen, too.

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

Goongrats, you discovered the secret of southern China being superior China.

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


Pregnant women CAN fly without a husband accompanying them, I did it twice this year :holymoley: I pressed elevator buttons all by myself too

a7m2
Jul 9, 2012


actually shenzhen sucks rear end don't go there. hong kong is awesome though and i also like guangzhou

Baddog
May 12, 2001
The food is better in the north (and west), but thats about it I think.

Tom Smykowski
Jan 27, 2005

What the hell is wrong with you people?

Baddog posted:

The food is better in the north (and west), but thats about it I think.
This post is bad.

Ceciltron
Jan 11, 2007

Text BEEP to 43527 for the dancing robot!
Pillbug
The Northeast has the most hardcore people. Living in a frozen fartcloud and fighting with russians, koreans and mongolians breeds a special sort.

I once saw a dude pull out a big rear end hawk and have it dismember a chicken in an alleyway behind a foreigner bar in Harbin.

Ailumao
Nov 4, 2004

Tom Smykowski posted:

This post is bad.

Yes, true things are bad.

Kill All Cops
Apr 11, 2007


Pacheco de Chocobo



Hell Gem

peanut posted:

Pregnant women CAN fly without a husband accompanying them, I did it twice this year :holymoley: I pressed elevator buttons all by myself too

Another baby :peanut: inbound??

ants on my cum rag
Sep 2, 2011

"Oh God you got the spray gun, DO NOT LOSE IT, you seriously better not screw this up, I'm not kidding"
~~The Battle Hymn of the Contra Tiger Mother~~

Ceciltron posted:


I once saw a dude pull out a big rear end hawk and have it dismember a chicken in an alleyway behind a foreigner bar in Harbin.

All these cucks talking about how the South is the best China haven't seen this post.

SB35
Jul 6, 2007
Move along folks, nothing to see here.

IT BURNS posted:

...ate lots of good Cantonese food...

This is how I know your post is a fake post.

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


Lady Galaga posted:

Another baby :peanut: inbound??

Baby was born in September :j:

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
I'm thinking of spending a day or two in Shanghai and then a day or two in Hangzhou on my way back from Japan in the last week of January. Anyone have any recommendations of places to stay in either? I'm kinda interested in crashing in a hostel just because I prefer the atmosphere and figured I'd check here to see if anyone has any they really prefer.

angel opportunity
Sep 7, 2004

Total Eclipse of the Heart
you're looking for a hostel in hangzhou?

Ailumao
Nov 4, 2004

The Great Autismo! posted:

I'm thinking of spending a day or two in Shanghai and then a day or two in Hangzhou on my way back from Japan in the last week of January. Anyone have any recommendations of places to stay in either? I'm kinda interested in crashing in a hostel just because I prefer the atmosphere and figured I'd check here to see if anyone has any they really prefer.

http://www.hostelworld.com/hosteldetails.php/Hangzhou-International-Youth-Hostel/Hangzhou/7740?sc_sau=sfab&sc_pos=7

Info creeping up on 5 years old but I knew a lot of people satisfied with this one.

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

angel opportunity posted:

you're looking for a hostel in hangzhou?

Is that bad? Thx Magna I'm checking it out now

Ailumao
Nov 4, 2004

The Great Autismo! posted:

Is that bad? Thx Magna I'm checking it out now

I can vouch at least the location is good for visitors. It's right between West Lake and the CBD, but right on the cusp of the big nature-y park surrounding the south and west sides of the lake.

If pollution is terribad I'd rent a bike and just head out to the wetlands or the tea fields. HZ is super bike friendly.

angel opportunity
Sep 7, 2004

Total Eclipse of the Heart

The Great Autismo! posted:

Is that bad? Thx Magna I'm checking it out now

well, you want to see west lake

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Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Famours and butifur Xi Hu, you know it

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