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Linguica posted:if I ever have to reinstall windows I'm pretty sure I have to install vista and then use my windows 7 upgrade disk lol if i wanted to be completely legal according to the licenses i have, i would need to install xp, upgrade to 7, then upgrade to 8, then upgrade to 8.1
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windows/ms is jealous of the chrome system of blasting out small updates to put out fires and not having to market actual versions or create narratives for improvements, they just want to be able to giveth and taketh away, but add in a wrinkle where they charge for it i dont see the product 'windows' getting version numbers again after 10, you'll just get a windows license and concerns about hardware compatibility will become an opaque topic
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Jan 27, 2015 04:46
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the kin packaging was neat, it was tube-based i can always get behind tubes
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Jan 27, 2015 04:47
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Linguica posted:if I ever have to reinstall windows I'm pretty sure I have to install vista and then use my windows 7 upgrade disk lol iirc they are the same disc. its the key that determines whether or not its oem, upgrade, retail, etc. i also remember it being easy to trick it into "upgrading" a blank disk by formatting it first
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Jan 27, 2015 04:48
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through some horrific combination of steps i was able to full install win 7 home premium and then "upgrade it" to pro with my upgrade key with the windows anytime upgrade (that's long dead, but apparently can accept upgrade keys despite saying it wont)
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Jan 27, 2015 04:51
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Linguica posted:if I ever have to reinstall windows I'm pretty sure I have to install vista and then use my windows 7 upgrade disk lol you can "upgrade" by installing windows from scratch from that disc, then running through the install from within that installation to perform the "upgrade" if you don't do that your key won't activate infernal machines fucked around with this message at 04:59 on Jan 27, 2015 |
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Jan 27, 2015 04:57
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duTrieux. posted:the kin packaging was neat, it was tube-based you seem more like the type to enjoy getting in front of tube IYKWIM
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Jan 27, 2015 04:58
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carry on then posted:if i wanted to be completely legal according to the licenses i have, i would need to install xp, upgrade to 7, then upgrade to 8, then upgrade to 8.1 don't you have to go xp -> vista -> 7? i thought there wasn't a direct upgrade from xp -> 7
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Jan 27, 2015 04:58
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infernal machines posted:you seem more like the type to enjoy getting in front of tube IYKWIM as long as it's pneumatic
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Jan 27, 2015 04:59
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Main Paineframe posted:don't you have to go xp -> vista -> 7? i thought there wasn't a direct upgrade from xp -> 7
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Jan 27, 2015 05:00
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Main Paineframe posted:don't you have to go xp -> vista -> 7? i thought there wasn't a direct upgrade from xp -> 7 no, xp to win 7 was a valid upgrade path, just has to be pro to pro or home to home
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Jan 27, 2015 05:00
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windows XPerience is the worst name for an OS jfc
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Jan 27, 2015 05:05
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almost as bad as just skipping a version # for no reason
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Jan 27, 2015 05:05
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any word yet on taking a win 7 starter edition up to 10? the fine print does not yet say 'gently caress off you parasite'
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Jan 27, 2015 05:06
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Korean Boomhauer posted:they are still going to charge for it (somehow) after the first year so we are still stuck with licences and Microsoft Genuine Advantage bullshit until they turn windows into a f2p mmo
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Jan 27, 2015 05:07
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shadow puppet of a posted:any word yet on taking a win 7 starter edition up to 10? the fine print does not yet say 'gently caress off you parasite' microsoft's official word is probably more like: "win 7? starter edition? not sure what you mean. try again later"
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Jan 27, 2015 05:08
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infernal machines posted:you can "upgrade" by installing windows from scratch from that disc, then running through the install from within that installation to perform the "upgrade" it's even dumber, it's just modifying a registry key and then "slmgr -rearm" the key in question is literally called, essentially, "did you install windows by booting from the install media" and if you change that registry key to 0 (no) it goes "oh, so you obviously upgraded, so now upgrade keys will work" the key checker for windows isn't really that difficult to con, and as long as your key trail is otherwise in order you should be fine if the bsa goes all csi on your machine i'm pretty sure that's all windows keeps track of, anyway, i don't think your chain of previous keys is stored in any way in your windows 7 install so you'd need your older keys kicking around some other way anyway univbee fucked around with this message at 05:23 on Jan 27, 2015 |
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Jan 27, 2015 05:18
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shadow puppet of a posted:i dont see the product 'windows' getting version numbers again after 10, you'll just get a windows license and concerns about hardware compatibility will become an opaque topic
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Jan 27, 2015 05:46
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Phoenixan posted:i'm just waiting for them to gently caress up version numbers like they did for win 8.1 u 1 and have things like windows 10.1.1016 rc 2 update 7
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Jan 27, 2015 06:12
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univbee posted:i'm pretty sure that's all windows keeps track of, anyway, i don't think your chain of previous keys is stored in any way in your windows 7 install so you'd need your older keys kicking around some other way anyway they're not and you do for license compliance, but the BSA doesn't give a poo poo how you installed windows as long as you have the chain of licenses that adds up to what you're using now
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Jan 27, 2015 06:14
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shadow puppet of a posted:well that settles it then, i guess this is what it feels like to turn into one of those old dingbats still running dos to get along just fine with ansi-view word processing i'm considering... linux
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Jan 27, 2015 10:21
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From their earnings announcement:quote:The average selling price for Microsoft's phones was $45 last quarter. they've cornered the market on poorphones.
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Jan 27, 2015 15:55
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Sassafras posted:This might be one of those things that mostly affects people using low memory VMs, so awful disk I/O speed plus no space to keep index caches in RAM leads to a big delay. I'm not seeing it either, on hardware. And there will surely be at least be a registry key to disable the web search, if not a checkbox in the final UI. The internal MSFT folks will want it for themselves. Smythe posted:*laboriously turns huge crank attached to ridiculous backpack with a huge satellite dish listing dangerously out of the top* my care meter detects... *grunts and turns the crank a few more times, a vintage klaxon blurts briefly before sparks erupt from the pack and the sound snuffs out* u mad
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Jan 27, 2015 16:16
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Happy_Misanthrope posted:they really have no clue holy poo poo I can't believe it's gotten even worse, there is absolutely no single style and every attempt at one is laughably awful lol its like a worse ios8
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Jan 27, 2015 16:17
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fleshweasel posted:parallels installs the ui unfucking things for me lol l m a o
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Jan 27, 2015 16:19
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i was wondering... is a tablet/desktop hybrid os just fundamentally flawed as a concept or is it just microsoft's execution that's so bad? Is there even a winning strategy for them at this point?
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Jan 27, 2015 16:21
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well, building that desktop/tablet hybrid on top of the skeleton filled crypt that is the legacy windows codebase is the fundamentally flawed part, i have no doubt that the ancient 'add font from disk' 100px x 200px menu is still somewhere in win10 someone can make desktop/tablet work, but its not going to be a company still working with the seedling cuttings of 1991's interface guidelines the fact they had to abandon cleartype should have been the initial warning jolt that they had begun to derail
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Jan 27, 2015 16:26
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Messyass posted:i was wondering... is a tablet/desktop hybrid os just fundamentally flawed as a concept or is it just microsoft's execution that's so bad? it's fundamentally flawed, steve jobs pretty much explicitly said this and he seemed to know what he was talking about with this stuff
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Jan 27, 2015 16:28
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Messyass posted:i was wondering... is a tablet/desktop hybrid os just fundamentally flawed as a concept yes lol they were told this years and years ago and ballmer went 'YOU CANT TELL ME WHAT TO DO' and doubled down. lol @ people like that
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Jan 27, 2015 16:28
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microsoft upper management is basically the technology backfire effect irl and its gonna ruin the entire company lol
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Jan 27, 2015 16:29
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i mean hypothetically you can have a desktop/tablet hybrid UI but you'll never have one that's also great for either one, there will always be tradeoffs just from the different input methods you could treat the finger like a really fat mouse cursor and just make everything bigger, but then you'll have to scroll a lot or navigate through a billion submenus for stuff with a lot of info like the file browser, device manager, etc also you'd need a unified design language throughout the entire thing to train people what's clickable, draggable, expandable, etc. it'd take a lot of work and a ton of QA testing and managers willing to scrap things and start again if something isn't working
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Jan 27, 2015 16:42
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turnways posted:i mean hypothetically you can have a desktop/tablet hybrid UI but you'll never have one that's also great for either one, there will always be tradeoffs just from the different input methods 
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metro is becoming just another layer of sediment in the cross section of windows and it's p lol
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turnways posted:i mean hypothetically you can have a desktop/tablet hybrid UI but you'll never have one that's also great for either one, there will always be tradeoffs just from the different input methods except this doesn't really work, either the thing with ui design is that your design expecting mouse input and your design expecting finger input are not at all the same thing if both are done right, and this is also true for things like an iPhone screen size vs. an iPad screen size. mac os has the best design: if you also want touch/tablet capability, get an ipad and cloud sync your poo poo, that is absolutely the best you can do
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turnways posted:i mean hypothetically you can have a desktop/tablet hybrid UI but you'll never have one that's also great for either one, there will always be tradeoffs just from the different input methods they have all of that they just don't use it. theres litterrally nothing technically preventing them from right now designing these uis to work one way w/ touch devices and another way w/ mouse+kb. like im not just talking about one ui that works for both, its different uis with the same content dependent on input device.
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Jan 27, 2015 16:56
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Why can't microsoft just make a Windows for corporate guys with all the legacy poo poo, but also a Windows Consumer version that guts it, making it a more streamlined OS. Greybeards who want to run dos and have that sim city fixing code still work as designed can use the corporate ISOs otherwise you just use a regular cut down ISO. Same key would work.
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Jan 27, 2015 17:00
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Shaggar posted:they have all of that they just don't use it. theres litterrally nothing technically preventing them from right now designing these uis to work one way w/ touch devices and another way w/ mouse+kb. like im not just talking about one ui that works for both, its different uis with the same content dependent on input device.
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univbee posted:except this doesn't really work, either this is basically why the ipad was successful and tablet pcs (lol) were not
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32MB OF ESRAM posted:Why can't microsoft just make a Windows for corporate guys with all the legacy poo poo, but also a Windows Consumer version that guts it, making it a more streamlined OS. i'm the type of guy who doesn't like being told what to do. :crosses arms: windows 8. one os across all devices. touch everywhere. do more
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who exactly does a single codebase with 2 or 3 different UIs in it benefit? not the people who have to build the software and not the people who use it
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