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RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:
esports is rapidly dying without zirp, is why

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Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

RealityWarCriminal posted:

esports is rapidly dying without zirp, is why

shbut up

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007
it's a good idea and i stand by it

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

lmao "esports"

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007
it's dying because people don't want to watch two people that are good at video games paly against each other, they wanna bet all their money on themselves beating a guy who is good at video games because they KNOW they're better

err
Apr 11, 2005

I carry my own weight no matter how heavy this shit gets...

RealityWarCriminal posted:

esports is rapidly dying without zirp, is why

yeah, lot of investor money is gone after covid + viewership declines and zirp. Org after org is dropping teams and withdrawing completely.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Honestly being a casino hustler kind of makes sense BECAUSE esports is dying, probably some of those displaced Pro Gamers would be looking for a way to extend their gravy train

no lube so what
Apr 11, 2021

Pepe Silvia Browne posted:

Professional Gamer Residency in Vegas lmfao

do it

can I tag along as a hype man / weed dude?

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

Red Baron posted:

wow still $22 a slice

It’s still 20 dollars if you use the app

no lube so what
Apr 11, 2021

Pepe Silvia Browne posted:

it's dying because people don't want to watch two people that are good at video games paly against each other, they wanna bet all their money on themselves beating a guy who is good at video games because they KNOW they're better

frat boy at 2am after some lines and a handle.

easy money

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007
how bout a movie like Hard Eight but Philip Baker Hall teaches John C. Riley how to play Halo for money at casinos and it's called Sticky Grenade

Gorson
Aug 29, 2014

Pepe Silvia Browne posted:

it's dying because people don't want to watch two people that are good at video games paly against each other, they wanna bet all their money on themselves beating a guy who is good at video games because they KNOW they're better

This is true, I would not watch esports in its current form, but I would watch Dunning Kruegers get smashed into a million pieces by people with skill.

e: while losing all their money

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007
they should have a buy-in team at the olympics too

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

the announcers at the Olympics should start talking about the lines on the prop bets before, during, and after the games

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

Gorson posted:

This is true, I would not watch esports in its current form, but I would watch Dunning Kruegers get smashed into a million pieces by people with skill.

e: while losing all their money

You could literally charge people just to stream the scrub players raging after they lose lol

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

bedpan posted:

the announcers at the Olympics should start talking about the lines on the prop bets before, during, and after the games

I'm certain this is coming tbh

Gorson
Aug 29, 2014

bedpan posted:

the announcers at the Olympics should start talking about the lines on the prop bets before, during, and after the games

We are sooooo close to this, same with every other sport.

no lube so what
Apr 11, 2021

Pepe Silvia Browne posted:

You could literally charge people just to stream the scrub players raging after they lose lol

that would be the top twitch streams bar none, holy poo poo

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

Pepe Silvia Browne posted:

I'm certain this is coming tbh

the future of Olympics is a sports gambling website buying the broadcasting rights and then advertising a deal where olympics betors get free access to the streams through an integrated betting platform. one click gambling

Gorson
Aug 29, 2014

bedpan posted:

the future of Olympics is a sports gambling website buying the broadcasting rights and then advertising a deal where olympics betors get free access to the streams through an integrated betting platform. one click gambling

100%, and there will be barely any venues built for it (a good thing, actually). There won't be crowds.

SA Forums Poster
Oct 13, 2018

You have to PAY to post on that forum?!?

Azrial posted:



Just ask for a 303% raise.

Checks out, only the top 5% can live comfortably.

PoundSand
Jul 30, 2021

Also proficient with kites

Pepe Silvia Browne posted:

Professional Gamer Residency in Vegas lmfao

A lot of major tournaments end up getting held in vegas for a variety of reasons so there are worse ideas out there.

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007
i'm laughing BECAUSE it's a good idea

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007
what a stupid world lol

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1791128184257208501?t=4JmpcEAfHJiLgX-o9ZGPsg&s=19

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

they should let you bet on the planes at the airport!

rex rabidorum vires
Mar 26, 2007

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Pepe Silvia Browne posted:

it's dying because people don't want to watch two people that are good at video games paly against each other, they wanna bet all their money on themselves beating a guy who is good at video games because they KNOW they're better

I am all for casino 'Pros vs Joes'

no lube so what
Apr 11, 2021
get a progressive on it, bring in the rubes plus big drama upsets for the clicks

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

surprised they dont have sports betting for the pools hot tubs and beaches category on twitch

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Norton posted:

an employee at the grocery store was talking to me at the bike rack and told me he was renting to own his e-bike for $20 a week. It's like 2 years of payments so not great but it seems way more manageable than a car payment + insurance + gas + maintenance.

what happens if stolen?

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

The Oldest Man posted:

surprised they dont have sports betting for the pools hot tubs and beaches category on twitch

prop bet on if the show hole meta will be used during the stream

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

bedpan posted:

prop bet on if the show hole meta will be used during the stream

i've heard of covering the spread but this is ridiculous!!

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

The Oldest Man posted:

i've heard of covering the spread but this is ridiculous!!

Twerk from Home
Jan 17, 2009

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https://twitter.com/goblingarbage_/status/1773039045276213589

dk2m
May 6, 2009

Morbus posted:

Excellent post. But making the kinds of "material investments" needed to maintain some sort of competitive posture with China will invariably strengthen labor--especially if this kind of development has to be done in the context of weakened neoliberal institutions.

I don't think the ruling class can tolerate the labor dynamics that would exist if the US developed to keep up with China. It *can* probably tolerate the losses incurred by losing access to Chinese markets and supply chains (or, more realistically, having that access curtailed by tariffs etc.), as long as it can double down elsewhere. I don't think there will be any emergence of a new ideology until after the US has firmly squeezed every ounce of blood from its remaining vassals. If China has the ability or inclination to capitalize on this then a transition / collapse might occur much faster than otherwise. If not, I think some form of zombie US imperialism can shamble around for a long time.

pretty spot on. strong labor is needed here. one of the bigger problems right now with the CHIPS and IRA act to force TSMC to onshore semiconductor fabs here is that the cost structure of employing Americans is prohibitively high - because basic cost of living is entirely privatized, you need to pay high wages (relatively speaking) to take into account healthcare, housing, education, consumer debt, and transportation costs which are subsidized to some degree in places like China. this actually puts a ton of pressure on SGA costs, which impacts the ROI of manufacturing in the U.S.

monopolizing IP rights was supposed to allow us to collect rents from overseas manufacturing because labor is typically the biggest cost, which led to the explosion of insurance and finance profits as they consolidated their monopoly power. except now, the basic setup of American employment is very costly to employ large labor forces here and weve backed ourselves into a corner to have any sort of large re-shoring strategy that is profitable.

so the options are to either begin a regime of public labor subsidies, which will never happen under neoliberalism, or simply force our IP monopolies vassals to operate at a loss here while subsidizing it with public taxpayer money. even still, pauper labor cannot compete with a motivated and efficient overseas equivalent and quality will suffer. labor saw their power under Covid, but it was quickly crushed under the guise of fighting inflation as financialized firms cannot compete if labor costs increase.

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

dk2m posted:

financialized firms cannot compete if labor costs increase.

I don't think financialized firms can compete, period. The entire premise of financialized neoliberal power was to externalize all the costs of the industrial economy and internalize all the profits, but if you turn that crank for thirty years you end up with a rich center with absolutely no productive capacity, with a politics totally dominated by the economic equivalent of a few hundred Smaugs, dragons that do nothing but sit atop a pile of theoretical finance capital gold but no productive capital at all. And they won't let anything change until their power is actually destroyed, the destruction of which destroys the state's remaining power tools (the dollar itself and the financial infrastructure that uses it) as well.

Feels pretty locked in at this point.

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

The Oldest Man posted:

but sit atop a pile of theoretical finance capital gold but no productive capital at all.
I think this is also partly the crazed tesla will have robots and AI is here!! bubble is one of the last gasps is the idea that they can suddenly have productive capital without labor

of course it's not going to work and everyone* knows it, but it's a great investor storytime and will make a lot of money the pets dot com pump

moist turtleneck
Jul 17, 2003

Represent.



Dinosaur Gum
one time at a casino after a concert (waiting for uber prices to die down) the slot machine ate my 20 and they gave me a new 20 and me and two of my friends all got super mega jackpots at the same time on three different machines

kinda cool there's a "oops so sorry don't leave" button

we cashed out immediately lol

PoundSand
Jul 30, 2021

Also proficient with kites
Went out to grab some pho with the mrs today and lol, two bowls of pho, an order of fresh spring rolls as an app, + tax/tip came out to a bit over 50. About a full workday of fed min wages pre-tax.

I remember when this place had bowls for like 6.95 lol

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TeenageArchipelago
Jul 23, 2013


Pepe Silvia Browne posted:

if casinos weren't rigged they'd let me bet on my own matches of video games

You can bet on skill games, not skill issues

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