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I've got a buddy looking to buy his first bike and he came to me for advice. He's looking at a 2006 Ninja 500R (EX500, GPZ500, whatever) with 28k miles. New chain, sprockets, recent fork job, year-old tires, new clutch cable. Seller wants $1800. I know the seller's girlfriend, and she says he's pretty scrupulous about keeping it maintained and not riding like a dong. Two questions: 1.) Good first bike? 2.) Good deal? I've done some research and read through the EX 500 forum a bit and came to my own conclusion that it's probably a decent first bike that won't be outgrown any time soon. Just figured I'd check here and see if anyone has any red flags about the bike specifically that I've missed in my own research. I'm also pressuring this kid hard to do the MSF course and spend a few hundred on gear immediately. Also, it's green.
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Aug 6, 2013 17:00
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Yes, and yes. Perfect beginner's bike, and a good price to boot if it is indeed maintained and not a shitheap.
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Aug 6, 2013 18:38
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Sanchez is wrong, it's not a 250 so he will die.
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Aug 6, 2013 19:05
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nsaP posted:Sanchez is wrong, it's not a 250 so he will die. Oh god let's not start this.
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Aug 6, 2013 19:10
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They very act of thinking about something other than a 250 to start on has already killed him I bet. Seriously though the 500 has an even power delivery and reasonably handling while still being quite light. It's just fine to start on. If you need help convincing him a few courses and some gear are worth his time and money just see this recent page or two of the video thread for over an hour of youtube MC crashes. Notice the responses on how they're mostly the same 4-5 mistakes. Some basic instruction and being given actual things to work with are worth it. Worst case he'll be a much better rider, and best case he won't eat poo poo due to his lack of basic mental prep.
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Aug 6, 2013 19:20
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Covert Ops Wizard posted:Oh god let's not start this. Don't listen to Covert Ops Wizard. Listen to Obama. For your sake and the sake of your friend please trust the President.  
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Aug 6, 2013 19:31
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nsaP posted:Don't listen to Covert Ops Wizard. Listen to Obama. For your sake and the sake of your friend please trust the President. Ugh Obama is coming to town today, good thing I can split through all the traffic he will undoubtedly cause  
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Aug 6, 2013 20:29
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Traffic on my way to work this morning was all hosed thanks to him. Even splitting like crazy it still took me an extra 5(!!) minutes to get to work.
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Aug 6, 2013 20:35
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Halo_4am posted:They very act of thinking about something other than a 250 to start on has already killed him I bet. Seriously though the 500 has an even power delivery and reasonably handling while still being quite light. It's just fine to start on. SaNChEzZ posted:Yes, and yes. Perfect beginner's bike, and a good price to boot if it is indeed maintained and not a shitheap. Thanks. At 28k miles, I'm pushing him to start out offering $1300 and see what happens, if everything seems sound. I get to do the test ride and ride it home for him if it all works out. Been wanting to ride one of these for a long time. I had about an hour long talk with him this morning about proper gear and the MSF course again. I didn't even think about showing him that drat crash video, but I think I will now.
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Aug 7, 2013 00:31
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Good idea? http://holland.craigslist.org/mcy/3959926993.html
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Aug 7, 2013 01:33
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SaNChEzZ posted:Ugh Obama is coming to town today, good thing I can split through all the traffic he will undoubtedly cause You need to be the lane change you wish to see in this world
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Aug 7, 2013 03:08
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Interesting, that looks like one of Tygaboys old CF gas tanks. Rare. It's got all the right mods, could be a great all arounder. I'd probably try and get him to throw in everything at 2600, sell the CF gas tank, sell the extra forks and stuff, and convert it to a trackbike or just ride the poo poo out of it as is. If you sold everything you could make it sub 2k for a VERY nice SV pretty easily.
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Aug 8, 2013 00:35
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2006 DRZ400SM 30k km (19k miles) LeoVince pipe 3x3 airbox mod, jet kit New chain  He says he's used synthetic oil every 1000-2000 km. Also, the tires are at about 50%, and no chicken strips due to track riding. So, 7 year old bike with a good number of miles on the odo, and used at the track. What's a reasonable offer? What should I take into account considering it's been tracked?
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Aug 8, 2013 15:25
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Personally, I'd probably stay away. However, I would give him pretty much no value for the mods (unless they really float your boat). I think mid 2s would be closer to reasonable for that 8+ year old bike that wasn't tracked unless bike prices are stupid inflated in GTA. Also, changing his synthetic oil every 1K or so is absurd.
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Aug 8, 2013 19:58
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slidebite posted:However, I would give him pretty much no value for the mods (unless they really float your boat). I think mid 2s would be closer to reasonable for that 8+ year old bike that wasn't tracked unless bike prices are stupid inflated in GTA. Would you give no value for the mods because of the particular mods they are on this bike or is that a blanket statement?
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Aug 8, 2013 20:26
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Blanket statement. General rule (and in my limited experience) mods add pretty much zero to the value of a bike. The owner is 99.9% of the time far further ahead to restore a bike to stock condition and part out the mods separately. I've also found from my own feelings when shopping and talking to others that have, a modded bike (especially performance mods) are not only worth less, but more likely to be passed over an otherwise identical stock bike. Caveat might be if the mods are exactly what a buyer would want, but even then the seller would almost certainly get more selling separately. I am of course talking about daily riders here. I'd genuinely be curious to hear others opinions. Edit: I realize this bike has pretty straightforward mods by the looks of it, but I still think my basic point stands. slidebite fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Aug 8, 2013 |
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Aug 8, 2013 20:41
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slidebite posted:Personally, I'd probably stay away. Would you mind elaborating on this? (Edit: What I mean is, it sounds like all you've said is "he sure changes his oil a lot" and "don't pay extra for the mods", neither of which answers either of my questions.) (Edit 2: Ah, can't read. Mid 2k ish, thanks. epswing fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Aug 8, 2013 |
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Aug 8, 2013 21:07
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In between those justifications for his mid 2k offer suggestion, he gave you a mid 2k offer suggestion. As to your tracked suggestion... not much. You know it's been run hard, but it's designed to run hard. There's no track specific wear to look for outside of tires and ridiculous performance mods.
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Aug 8, 2013 21:30
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epalm posted:Would you mind elaborating on this? Mostly for me it'd be that you can't make an offer for what its worth without lowballing the asking price.
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Aug 8, 2013 21:32
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I see. Yes, that makes sense. Everyone thinks their precious moto-snowflake is worth buckets of cash.
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Aug 8, 2013 21:58
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clutchpuck posted:Mostly for me it'd be that you can't make an offer for what its worth without lowballing the asking price. Are there comparable bikes for sale in the area for a more sensible price?
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Aug 8, 2013 22:35
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So having decided that a 600 offers enough power and torque to keep me satisfied, I have abandoned my 10-year - old litre bike dreams and started looking at 5-6 year old super sports instead. Is there any compelling reason to avoid the 09-10 zx6r? They seem to be well priced compared with the competition, insurance is dirt cheap (like 500/yr less than the other supersports) and I haven't found any horror stories regarding reliability, anyone care to offer any advice?
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Aug 9, 2013 03:55
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tzam posted:So having decided that a 600 offers enough power and torque to keep me satisfied, I have abandoned my 10-year - old litre bike dreams and started looking at 5-6 year old super sports instead. Is there any compelling reason to avoid the 09-10 zx6r? They seem to be well priced compared with the competition, insurance is dirt cheap (like 500/yr less than the other supersports) and I haven't found any horror stories regarding reliability, anyone care to offer any advice? slidebite posted:I'd genuinely be curious to hear others opinions. Almost any mod you make will devalue most bikes and limit the number of potential buyers exponentially. Aesthetic mods almost always devalue a bike. (gently caress every single non-pro who puts a Monster energy drink sticker on a bike or car.) Exceptions to this are things like better brakes, progressive suspension, or solid fixes to known issues with a certain model of bike.
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Aug 9, 2013 07:04
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slidebite posted:Are there comparable bikes for sale in the area for a more sensible price? This just popped up  2009 DRZ400SM with 4400 km, for the sameish price $4,250. That's like 25,000 less km, and 3 less years, though this apparently has been dropped given the broken turn signal bulb. Looks like a first owner, I might go see it. Ugh but it's white... 
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Aug 9, 2013 15:23
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Go with $3500 in your pocket and see what he says. Also, just did a local search too and seem to be a little cheaper than you but still asking $4-ish for recent ones.
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Aug 9, 2013 16:02
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I feel your pain on high priced Sumos. They're rarer than leprechauns here so you get poo poo like this, a 2003 KLX conversion listed at 4,500 http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/mcy/3975753713.html 
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Aug 9, 2013 16:49
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A guy is offering to trade my Husky for a 2003 Kawi Z1000 with 77, xxx miles. I can't tell if that's a good trade or not. Anything I should know about the Z1000?
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Aug 13, 2013 16:21
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My '03 Z had less than 10k miles on it and it was worth half what you're asking for the Husky. I like the Z but it's a hooligan bike with that much mileage, I'd expect cracks in the steering stem by now, or at least trashed bearings all over
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Aug 13, 2013 16:31
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I may have a line on a 05 Ducati 999 (base model, black biposto, no mods, well kept) with about 15k on it. Friend of a relative posted it on his facebook page, he's asking 6500. I know 05-06 are the better years, the base got the S engine with a better oil sump, and a better swing arm. Seems like a good deal. I actually know a really great ducati only mechanic too, so I'm not worried about maintenance costs, or engine work should the need arise. I haven't seen the posting yet but I was wondering if any of you goons have any experience with this model duck.
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tzam posted:So having decided that a 600 offers enough power and torque to keep me satisfied, I have abandoned my 10-year - old litre bike dreams and started looking at 5-6 year old super sports instead. Is there any compelling reason to avoid the 09-10 zx6r? They seem to be well priced compared with the competition, insurance is dirt cheap (like 500/yr less than the other supersports) and I haven't found any horror stories regarding reliability, anyone care to offer any advice? I had one and put a bunch of miles on it - loved it, I'd buy another.
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Snowdens Secret posted:My '03 Z had less than 10k miles on it and it was worth half what you're asking for the Husky. I think 77 was a typo. It's actually a 7Kmi Z1000, but I'm still not terribly interested. I think I got it confused with the Z-Rex, Safety Dance fucked around with this message at 02:44 on Aug 15, 2013 |
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Aug 15, 2013 02:28
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I thought the zrx was the older vintage styled model?
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Aug 15, 2013 02:39
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clutchpuck posted:I thought the zrx was the older vintage styled model? I fixed my post. Sportbikes. I literally have no idea when it comes to them.
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Aug 15, 2013 02:44
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I've been thinking of getting a trail/dirt bike for a while, just got an opportunity for a good price on a Yamaha WR400F. I have a fair bit of experience on quads but none on two wheels. Is there any chance I'm going to be able to learn on this bike or is it too powerful?
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Aug 15, 2013 03:35
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Are you going to be riding on trails or on MX tracks? I think it'll be fine if you're not planning on being a supercross fly in the air star. Dirt bike thread: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3471069 I wish I had a dirt bike and somewhere to ride it.
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thylacine posted:Are you going to be riding on trails or on MX tracks? I think it'll be fine if you're not planning on being a supercross fly in the air star. Dual sport. Cut off the road, hit a jump a few times, maybe blast a fun trail, then cruise to the next spot. Railroad tracks and farm trails. Just don't hit a live track that doesn't have a trail along side it and watch out trespassing, don't gently caress up anybody's crops most of all. Also, business parks and shopping center drainage areas can be fun, I learned how to seat bounce ripping around a little drainage area with some jumps and a fun grass berm you can rail nicely.
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ammo mammal posted:I've been thinking of getting a trail/dirt bike for a while, just got an opportunity for a good price on a Yamaha WR400F. I have a fair bit of experience on quads but none on two wheels. Is there any chance I'm going to be able to learn on this bike or is it too powerful? You can learn on anything, but you'll learn faster and have more fun starting on a smaller bike. Your quad experience doesn't mean anything with regards to riding a motorcycle.
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Aug 15, 2013 16:00
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What metric sporster like bikes can be had for cheap?
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Vulcans, Boulevard S-models (S40/S90), Vstars, and Shadows could all be described as "Sporter-like" I suppose. Really though, Sportys are pretty inexpensive bikes themselves - they do not follow the typical Harley pricing lunacy; plenty options for all of these models between $2500 and $4000 on my local CL.
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