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mugrim posted:I know people think I'm joking, but Al Franken is pretty much purpose built for the job of defeating Trump. He's got years of dealing with similar personas (people who take themselves too seriously who are dumb) and making them look like morons. He can do this while being a senator with real experience, making the midwest happy as they love him, and making a real case for progressive causes. I thought Al Franken was persona non grata for the left
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Nov 30, 2016 16:54
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Why does the left hate Franken? I mean i dont agree with him on everything but he seems good overall?
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Lord of Pie posted:We need to run a guy who can verifiably out deal the art of the deal Cheeto man. no think business magnates, people who can sell the idea of im successful u can be too, to the american people Musk 2024 Bill Gates 2020 would on Franken
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GlyphGryph posted:Why does the left hate Franken? I mean i dont agree with him on everything but he seems good overall? To most Americans Franken is a former SNL cast member with an annoying voice who barely wins elections. He is a caricature of a democrat. Maybe that's perfect, tho? I don't know anymore.
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devtesla posted:To most Americans Franken is a former SNL cast member with an annoying voice who barely wins elections. He is a caricature of a democrat. Maybe that's perfect, tho? I don't know anymore. That and the people who liked him prior have been pissed that he's not more vocal as a senator, which he's done mostly as a way of trying to legitimize himself by toning down his comedic side.
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There is no way Musk would take a break from making meaningful change in the world to be a politician.
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Fidel Cuckstro posted:"We should do single payer healthcare" This is why it's really important to not hate who you're trying to help. If you're convinced that they're all stupid idiot racists who can't be reasoned with or convinced of anything, you, uh... won't try. You'll lose faith in the ability of your positions to convince people, you'll stop believing that politics can actually accomplish anything so why even bother? Just manage what you can and wait until the idiots are dead. This has been shown to not bring results. If you wanna change things, you gotta try and change things.
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GlyphGryph posted:There is no way Musk would take a break from making meaningful change in the world to be a politician. who said he had to be a politician to be elected 
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Lastgirl posted:who said he had to be a politician to be elected Musk is also a libertarian last I checked. He was creepishly stalking Amber Heard because he heard a rumor that she read atlas shrugged or something.
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mugrim posted:That and the people who liked him prior have been pissed that he's not more vocal as a senator, which he's done mostly as a way of trying to legitimize himself by toning down his comedic side. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gensWq4xl0I
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mugrim posted:Musk is also a libertarian last I checked. He was creepishly stalking Amber Heard because he heard a rumor that she read atlas shrugged or something. which tbqh is more than you can expect of most liberterians
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Ahahhahaha i totally forgot he was on stage when that went down and helped.
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mugrim posted:Ahahhahaha i totally forgot he was on stage when that went down and helped. Comedian for multiple decades, senator for nearly a decade, somehow completely lost the ability to ad-lib or handle a heckling crowd
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Karl Barks posted:i dunno if she even posts here anymore, but she basically called everything that's happening with the ACA when she was posting from like 2008-2012 Just looked up her post history and her posts are very infrequent at this point and the most recent ones were often met with the same kind of neo-liberal "call outs" that made most Democratic threads unbearable during the primaries. She was dead on.
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CubsWoo posted:Comedian for multiple decades, senator for nearly a decade, somehow completely lost the ability to ad-lib or handle a heckling crowd This is a totally valid point, though I'm less worried about ad libbing a mad crowd. The real challenge is loving with and diminishing Trump.
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Fidel Cuckstro posted:I did not see the posts, but would like to she routinely pointed out just how loving stupid the ACA was and got probated/banned to oblivion by the D&D fishmech/shillary crew (hilariously, nearly all of her criticisms of the ACA several years ago have now come 100% completely fuckin true)
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My (through my employer) health premium went up about 15%, I ended up having to cut down on certain policies (dental, vision) in order to not have to pay 600 bucks a month, and stick to my low rate of 300(!) Oh, and premium-at-1200-a-month-already-or-more crew checking in. The only way I can afford it is because my job pays 980 dollars of it. Yey for corporate wageslaveism I guess.
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Sure would be nice if all that in-case-you-get-sick tax went to funding schools and roads instead of a bonus for some health insurance executive, too bad single payer is impossible welp
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RENEGADE CUCKSKY posted:she routinely pointed out just how loving stupid the ACA was and got probated/banned to oblivion by the D&D fishmech/shillary crew But shucks ain't fishmech hilarious?????
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ThIt feels like the single biggest thing the government could do to help fix the problems with healthcare is the one thing they're never going to be willing to do because no one has any desire to engage in log-term thinking - pay for doctors to go to medical school, pay for nurses to get trained, encourage people to enter the field, do something to deal with the frankly insane disincentives for people to enter the field. Is anything like that happening, at all?
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Shinjobi posted:But shucks ain't fishmech hilarious????? He should only be allowed to post in the gas chamber again. A fitting punishment.
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GlyphGryph posted:ThIt feels like the single biggest thing the government could do to help fix the problems with healthcare is the one thing they're never going to be willing to do because no one has any desire to engage in log-term thinking - pay for doctors to go to medical school, pay for nurses to get trained, encourage people to enter the field, do something to deal with the frankly insane disincentives for people to enter the field. Nah. Most of the doctors around here were pretty old and getting close to retirement so when they started to be required to stitch over to electronic records most of them noped out and quit. I haven't seen any yet locally that have been replaced with anything more than a nurse practitioner.
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Fulchrum posted:The gently caress is a fish fry? lmao
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uhhh clam bake? que???
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Karl Barks posted:uhhh clam bake? que??? A clam bake is the superior cultural event to the fish fry. It is based around quahogs and clams and lobsters and other things with shells instead of boring fish. Other than I suspect they have a lot of similarities.
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GlyphGryph posted:A clam bake is the superior cultural event to the fish fry. There's an indescribable beauty in the simplicity of a good cut of fish, battered and fried well. Simple doesn't have to be bad.
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Grondoth posted:There's an indescribable beauty in the simplicity of a good cut of fish, battered and fried well. Simple doesn't have to be bad. I am pretty sure what you described is actually more complex than normal clam bake preparations, which is literally "steam clams, distribute clams in huge buckets, eat your way through the buckets".
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GlyphGryph posted:I am pretty sure what you described is actually more complex than normal clam bake preparations, which is literally "steam clams, distribute clams in huge buckets, eat your way through the buckets". That's fair
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I just fuckin' like fish fries They are near and dear to my buffalonian heart.
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Steaming them is a bit more complex than the normal (and even more simple) method of digging them out of the dirt and immediately slurping them out of the shell raw
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i don't really think it's inexcusable to not know what a fish fry is. it's not a tradition everywhere as seemingly implied by some here.
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The Fish Fry Defender
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Concerned Citizen posted:i don't really think it's inexcusable to not know what a fish fry is. it's not a tradition everywhere as seemingly implied by some here. Fried Catfish is literally the most American food
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philip j fish fry
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Nonsense posted:Fried Catfish is literally the most American food actually, you'll find that america is a melting pot.
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Guisado owns and Bernie doesn't even know it exists
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Concerned Citizen posted:i don't really think it's inexcusable to not know what a fish fry is. it's not a tradition everywhere as seemingly implied by some here. it absolutely isn't for a normal person, but a) it's on the list of events you should have at least heard about if you've followed national elections for more than a cycle b) even if it wasn't you should be able to use context clues to make an inference about what they would be compared to other local events- i.e. even on the godless west coast, in the most bougie liberal part of the city, your local community probably has people doing things like a pancake breakfasts or big pasta/paella dinner events as fundraisers/neighborhood meet and greets c) the dude who was baffled has been implying expertise in areas where knowing (or being able to instantly figure out) what a fish fry was would basically be pre-conditions for having actual expertise (which is far from the first sign that he's dumb/wrong as hell, just one of the most succinct)
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