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Owlbear Camus posted:genetically modified red cow to bring about the third temple and messiah in israel? 90s airport novel plot rear end geopolitical developments
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Mar 27, 2024 21:52
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Relentless selective breeding is a form of genetic modification, arguably. 
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Mar 27, 2024 21:53
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Mr. F! posted:sounds made up Seems legit. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-war-hamas-red-heifers-from-texas-jerusalem-jewish-temple-al-aqsa/ Article from a month ago how evangelical Texans were providing red cows to a hardcore Zionist group who want to build the Third Temple on Al-Aqsa Mosque.
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Mar 27, 2024 21:55
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The Evangelical/Zionist belief that you can trick God with a technicality is astounding.
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Mar 27, 2024 21:56
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:The Evangelical/Zionist belief that you can trick God with a technicality is astounding. jesus sitting at his desk, smoking a cigarette and looking off to the middle distance. the phone rings, he answers: "j man here. hold on, they did WHAT to a cow? me damnit, I'll be down in a minute."
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Mar 27, 2024 21:59
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:The Evangelical/Zionist belief that you can trick God with a technicality is astounding. the rabbinical perspective is that god put in the loopholes for you to use, youre not tricking god, he just expects you to figure out the exploits on your own you should read the talmud man, it's wild
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Mar 27, 2024 22:00
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as far as evangelicals go they just have the minds of children and try to fool daddy
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Mar 27, 2024 22:01
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This isn't a case of loopholes, this is just ignoring the numerous reasons why the sacrifice would not be allowed and, even if it were, would not be relevant.
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Mar 27, 2024 22:02
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Sir Mat of Dickie posted:This isn't a case of loopholes, this is just ignoring the numerous reasons why the sacrifice would not be allowed and, even if it were, would not be relevant. yeah this in particular is just some weird jewish stuff being done by isreali maniacs
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Mar 27, 2024 22:03
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there are regular red cattle. You don't have to have an elite team of Israeli sorcerers to magick up a red cow. https://www.thecattlesite.com/breeds/beef/99/red-angus/
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Mar 27, 2024 22:04
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Al! posted:as far as evangelicals go they just have the minds of children and try to fool daddy I get the sense that in the cultural sphere, American religion, even the rejection of it - how much of New Atheism was "gently caress you dad!"? - works like that. It makes sense, culture, including religious culture, replicates in the family home. The postwar American nuclear family means that all cultural norms, including politics and religion, aren't formed within a community but by your relationship with your dad. But if people's trajectories and worldviews in life depend on accepting or rejecting their parents, and everything associated with them, obviously this is a problem because they're not fully participating in culture, religion, politics, and it probably has other weird knock on effects. I remember when liberals were doing end zone dances about "authoritarian personalities" and conservatives, and that should have been a pretty obvious tell that they have confused family dynamics with ideology.
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Mar 27, 2024 22:08
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Well a huge amount of it also comes from the hijacking of religion by social conservatives who took over the narrative in every corner of the media. I was raised completely secular by two ostensible deists but ended up thinking as a teenager that religion was inherently evil stupid reactionary nightmare poo poo about harassing teenagers getting abortions and beating up gay people because that's what it seemed like if you paid attention to the news. That's not even accounting for the residential schools and child molestation stuff too, not that I was ever exposed to actual Catholicism out here in BC, I think I knew one actual religious person growing up, not even my grandparents were religious. Religion in general doesn't have the best PR in the West these days.
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Mar 27, 2024 22:26
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Sir Mat of Dickie posted:This isn't a case of loopholes, this is just ignoring the numerous reasons why the sacrifice would not be allowed and, even if it were, would not be relevant. Why wouldn't Israel allow it? They've funded the Temple Institute that pulled all this together.
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Mar 27, 2024 22:30
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skeptical of this because there is no april in the hebrew calendar. april tends to begin halfway through nisan, and end halfway through iyar
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Mar 27, 2024 22:32
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DynamicSloth posted:Why wouldn't Israel allow it? They've funded the Temple Institute that pulled all this together. allowed by the halakha, not the Israeli authorities
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Mar 27, 2024 22:36
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those cows aren’t red, they’re ginger. checkmate zionazis
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Mar 27, 2024 22:44
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if that cow is not the exact right pantone code God is gonna give 'em an ark of the covenant treatment.
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Mar 27, 2024 22:47
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https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/in-bombshell-filing-ag-to-tell-high-court-govt-must-get-ready-to-draft-yeshiva-students/ In a bombshell draft filing to the High Court, Attorney General Gali Baharav-Miara’s office says the government will no longer be able to defer military conscription of ultra-Orthodox yeshiva students come Monday morning. Following the failure of the government to come up with a realistic plan to increase ultra-Orthodox enlistment to present to the court, and with the government resolution delaying the conscription of Haredi yeshiva students set to expire midnight on Sunday, the attorney general says the relevant state agencies will have no legal option other than to begin drafting such men on Monday. Baharav-Miara also tells the High Court that, as a result, there will be no legal basis to continue the state funding of yeshiva student stipends, since those funds are grounded in the framework of the students’ military service exemptions.
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israel is sabre rattling that theyll attack rafah to try and force hamas into concessions in the negotiations ==== Israeli Channel 12: Army begins preparations for operation in Rafah Israeli Channel 12: The Israeli army has begun preparations for an operation in Rafah in the event of the collapse of negotiations. The Israeli military has begun steps to isolate the city of Rafah and evacuate civilians. Netanyahu ordered the purchase of 40,000 tents from China for Gaza to be erected in preparation for the ground operation in Rafah. https://www.aljazeera.net/news/live...31601;&%231581;
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DynamicSloth posted:Why wouldn't Israel allow it? They've funded the Temple Institute that pulled all this together. The government might; religious law wouldn't. The mainstream belief is that the Messiah is the only one to rebuild the Temple. Strengthening this position is the fact that important information about how the Temple would be rebuilt is not known, such as the intended location of the Holy of Holies (this is why most Jews believe that they should not even go up to the Temple Mount, since the only one who can go to the Holy of Holies is the High Priest and only on Yom Kippur); it is believed the Messiah would be the one to reveal such things. There are disagreements about the exact mechanism by which this would happen (e.g., would the Messiah personally lead the reconstruction?) but the broad consensus is that random people can't just decide to start rebuilding the Temple.
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Mar 27, 2024 22:54
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Stuff like international law and condemnation of genocide might not seem like it matters, and it often doesn't... until it does. The balance of power can shift wildly and quickly. The governments around Israel might not do poo poo when they invade Rafah (they already have, they're just keeping it quiet precisely so the counterattacks against them from other places don't get even more severe), but countries are far more than just their governments. We here in amerikkka would also do well to remember this. Sustained effort is what wins every struggle in the world, not just expecting one big event to finally collapse the bad guys.
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Mar 27, 2024 22:59
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PawParole posted:https://twitter.com/nadinbrzezinski/status/1772833402447876316 The country currently enforcing the blockade on Gaza on their very own border isn't about to invade Israel.
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Mar 27, 2024 23:09
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Goosed it. posted:I appreciate them showing how dumb and craven Destiny is. And also, find Destiny's argument dumb even if he had been right. I get that the legal definition of genocide includes specific intent, but bombing hospitals and mass starvation is depraved even without specific genocidal intent. Just seems like getting caught in the weeds when there is an acknowledgement that Israel is willfully causing mass civilian death and suffering. Intent can also be inferred.
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Mar 27, 2024 23:11
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Sir Mat of Dickie posted:The government might; religious law wouldn't. The mainstream belief is that the Messiah is the only one to rebuild the Temple. Strengthening this position is the fact that important information about how the Temple would be rebuilt is not known, such as the intended location of the Holy of Holies (this is why most Jews believe that they should not even go up to the Temple Mount, since the only one who can go to the Holy of Holies is the High Priest and only on Yom Kippur); it is believed the Messiah would be the one to reveal such things. There are disagreements about the exact mechanism by which this would happen (e.g., would the Messiah personally lead the reconstruction?) but the broad consensus is that random people can't just decide to start rebuilding the Temple. if this event is true and not just being put out as a canard, it really just seems like semi-religious spectacle like a christmas pageant only an animal gets murdered
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Shageletic posted:Intent can also be inferred. Especially from statements from government officials like, "make Gaza uninhabitable" or comparing Palestinians to a biblical tribe that God ordered the ancient Israelites to genocide lmao.
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Mar 27, 2024 23:31
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theyve not just bombed but actively demolished all of gaza's schools, religious buildings, and healthcare. gaza will need to be rebuilt entirely and israel plans to do so without letting palestinians live there, but sure i guess its just a defensive war against hamas because tunnels exist
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Mar 27, 2024 23:34
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joepinetree posted:The country currently enforcing the blockade on Gaza on their very own border isn't about to invade Israel.
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Only a subset of Israeli Haredim are antizionist. Seems like any right wing tendencies aren't really related to their religion then. PostNouveau posted:Maybe I've got them confused with the American strain of ultra-Orthodox Jews who don't teach their kids English and do Torah studies for "work" Is not learning English a right wing practice? Or founding your community on religious devotion? Are the Amish right wing? Quakers? Most Haredi men in America work. It's even a slim majority in Israel. I too would like to know the answer to your second question, I might take a look if I get the time. Karach posted:there are regular red cattle. You don't have to have an elite team of Israeli sorcerers to magick up a red cow. One non-red hair disqualifies them. Best to play it safe I suppose. Al-Saqr posted:egypt would sooner kill a million egyptians than touch a single hair on an israelis head and if you guys think they will do anything for gaza Im sorry youre a loving idiot helping gaza would be completely against the military fascists interests and completely against the whole purpose of them being supported and propped up by the US, the UAE and the mossad please stop believing this horseshit Saudi Arabia 2 decades ago seemed like an American puppet completely dependent on the USA for its continued survival. Now it won't even let them use their airspace for bombing runs. Turns out it has quite a bit of leverage over America to make independent policy decisions. The same is true of the wider Egyptian state. Sure, the USA can replace Sisi, but they can't really replace the military. What is America going to do? Mess with them economically, but as long as there is food and fuel it's not too bad. I can think of a couple of interested parties who specialize in low interest loans to pay for it (China) and food and fuel itself (Russia). Perhaps something could be worked out through the BRICS format, as Egypt is now a member. I'm not hopeful personally but I think you exaggerate the balance of forces here. American might, military and economic, is not what it once was.
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Orbs posted:Again, the "country" enforcing the blockade is not the people of that land. That government is an imposition, and one that is showing cracks of its own. And what the gently caress does that distinction have to do with whether the government is currently amassing troops to invade Israel?
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joepinetree posted:And what the gently caress does that distinction have to do with whether the government is currently amassing troops to invade Israel?
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If Egypt did invade I'd imagine it'd be nothing to do with morality, and more that they'd see it as a way to get Ansarallah off their backs and restart their ports, combined with thinking that the US is basically as spent as it's gonna be and can't meaningfully do worse than it already has for them, and that China would be a better sugar daddy anyways. If they think about civilian opinion it is only in terms of how many dollars dissent currently costs minus or how much pro Palestinian sentiment would (if any) defer costs of such a move. Edit: Basically if the dog thinks it can slip it's leash and get better chow with the neighbor next door, it may just do so.
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Weka posted:American might, military and economic, is not what it once was. thechosenone posted:If Egypt did invade I'd imagine it'd be nothing to do with morality, and more that they'd see it as a way to get Ansarallah off their backs and restart their ports, combined with thinking that the US is basically as spent as it's gonna be and can't meaningfully do worse than it already has for them, and that China would be a better sugar daddy anyways. If they think about civilian opinion it is only in terms of how many dollars dissent currently costs minus or how much pro Palestinian sentiment would (if any) defer costs of such a move.
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scary ghost dog posted:skeptical of this because there is no april in the hebrew calendar. april tends to begin halfway through nisan, and end halfway through iyar it seems obviously made up to me 
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Mar 28, 2024 00:01
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Egypt invading Israel? Come on now
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Honky Mao posted:Egypt invading Israel? Come on now
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Orbs posted:Come on and what? Have actual imagination, instead of accepting the status quo as eternal and unchangeable? Egypt isn't going to invade Israel
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genericnick posted:Egypt isn't going to invade Israel
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genericnick posted:Egypt isn't going to invade Israel Egypt is more likely to help Israel. Which they arguably are right now.
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Egypt is definitely culpable for Israel's genocide. Jordan as well so long as the monarchy continues.
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But of that day and hour knows no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
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