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Darth Walrus posted:An interesting critique on Labour's new Ofsted plans: I'm not sure I understand his problem. From the Guardian article, it sounds like they're abolishing Ofsted and replacing it with a different system, based on what they want that system to achieve, just like he wants. Not pointing at Ofsted and saying "abolished!" and sitting back smugly waiting for the teacher votes to roll in.
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Bobstar posted:Not pointing at Ofsted and saying "abolished!" and sitting back smugly waiting for the teacher votes to roll in. Although this would be pretty good. In my experience Ofsted inspections might be the worst possible system for assessing schools. School managers are almost all obsessed with ticking the boxes, regardless of how it might relate to quality of education. Thanks to Ofsted divination I don't think most school managers have ever even thought about what education should be.
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Gorn Myson posted:If the Labour right ousts Corbyn and places another tedious New Labour-esque dickhead in there instead, I very much look forward to going back to what I used to do and just not voting for Labour Just become a member and constantly vote for the leftest option in internal party elections, that's what I do. And to be honest I'd still for New Labour to keep the Tories out, hell I'd vote for Tony Blair over Boris loving Johnson
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Part of the problem is the media pretending that the EU can be negotiated on their core values. They're doing it so the public continue to believe in Boris, but the EU are absolutely not going to budge. Like at this point the bullshit about saying he is close to striking a deal is delusional - we cannot remove the backstop, we cannot have a hard border in northern Ireland and we cannot have a border between norn irn and the mainland. It reminds me of the discussion in the (second?) podcast about Daddy Dom playing chicken and getting caught up on the best way to mitigate damage to us instead of just not playing chicken. This poo poo about the EU 'flinching at the last moment' is ridiculous and reminds me of that joke about the american warship and the lighthouse. Also to the new posters of the last few pages who have been saying life is probably going to go on as normal, well gently caress you for not having diabetes, or copd, or asthma I guess. There will be deaths from this.
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Barry Foster posted:Things seem to have fallen apart very rapidly over the last couple of days. Rarity posted:Also everyone stop doing the blackpill thing already ffs
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The problem I have with the former Teach First dickhead's argument that it's seems pretty endemic of the kind of technocratic bullshit that's plagued this country and it's politics forever. Ofsted is despised by teachers, even among those who recognise the need for some way of evaluating schools and teachers (which is probably a majority, teachers tend to be somewhat reasonable people) and has a pretty changeable relationship with parents at best. Like he says in that thread, parents do use Ofsted ratings when looking at schools, but parents will be the first to come to a school's defence if Ofsted slam down a lovely rating. I work in a school that's currently rated 'Good' by Ofsted and has a lot of competition in the cachement area and parents talk about our 'great reputation' and we're massively over-subscribed. Plus you know, evidence collecting, box ticking, creating vast amounts of workload for teaching staff just because someone hears that Ofsted's now looking for your proof that you're offering this thing in your curriculum or that you're proving you're providing for your Pupil Premium children... The idea that we can just 'ooo reform, accountability' an organisation like that requires such a strongly-held belief in the system actually working and frankly you're better off believing in fairy tales. In conclusion, Ofsted is poo poo and inspectors are scabs.
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Conference season is always where labour infighting/party debate and democracy [delete as appropriate to your status as Commentariat brain spider host or normal loving person] occurs. Disagreements are good because there are amendments and votes which solidify mandates for moving ahead in a specific direction, directed by the party. The only “bad” thing has been the ~optics~ of the deputy leader thing, and as someone else said before, the wind is preemptively out of the labour rights sails when the position ends up neutered and we can point back to “well Corbyn actually prevented its abolition and it was then subject to party scrutiny at a wider level”. Things are, in fact, good and cool.
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TwoShanks posted:Although this would be pretty good. In my experience Ofsted inspections might be the worst possible system for assessing schools. School managers are almost all obsessed with ticking the boxes, regardless of how it might relate to quality of education. Thanks to Ofsted divination I don't think most school managers have ever even thought about what education should be. Yeah I have a few relatives who are (head) teachers and the glimpses I get of the system are utterly bizarre. At any time, at least one of them seems to be in a state of "Ofsted is imminent, quick, hide Bart, Nelson and the others in the basement, we must Do The Needful and put on a show", all so that parents can have ~~choice~~. E: maybe "putting on a show" sounds like they're trying to cover something bad up. But the level of anxiety it produces is crazy. Bobstar fucked around with this message at 11:17 on Sep 22, 2019 |
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Sep 22, 2019 11:10
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 Emperor of the EU Macron said so on the EU News.
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Isn't Ofsted pretty much meant for white well-to-do families to find a neighbourhood to move in where they can send their white well-to-do kids to a school full of other white well-to-do kids and no scary foreigns?
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isn't this corbyn stuff just more of the same, just amplified a little more by a craven media running damage control for boris, who has had a terrible couple of weeks? that said have you copped the guardian home page? so laughably over the top anti labour this weekend. but then what do you expect from an MI5 outlet.
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Eschenique posted:
I believe he also said that the UK must issue an apology for the empire, send the crown jewels to brussels so that the public can touch them, and set up a refugee campsite at the Diana memorial park
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gh0stpinballa posted:isn't this corbyn stuff just more of the same, just amplified a little more by a craven media running damage control for boris, who has had a terrible couple of weeks? its incredible how fast its destroyed its own reputation
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Pochoclo posted:Isn't Ofsted pretty much meant for white well-to-do families to find a neighbourhood to move in where they can send their white well-to-do kids to a school full of other white well-to-do kids and no scary foreigns? Nah, it's definitely not great, but there were a couple of schools near where I lived in London that were 90% 2nd gen immigrant children and got Outstanding (highest mark) from Ofsted. They were all on the poorer end of the scale and the school was mostly brown.
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Fisher's resignation is weird timing, definitely very definite burning of bridges on the way out - deciding to debrief the Times whilst quitting LAB? not even the Graun? He must have been really pissed off ronya fucked around with this message at 11:45 on Sep 22, 2019 |
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Sep 22, 2019 11:41
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normal country https://twitter.com/Otto_English/status/1175697673187483649
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"Sources have confirmed that Johnson, now 55 and prime minister, was a regular visitor to Arcuri’s top-floor flat in Shoreditch, east London." Oh go on, say it or not.
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Eschenique posted:
thank you for sharing
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ronya posted:Fisher's resignation is weird timing, definitely I think Shipman said it was a private conversation leaked to him by one of the people Fisher spoke to. He never intended it to be public, and certainly not in the Times.
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gh0stpinballa posted:what do you expect from an MI5 outlet. Jose posted:its incredible how fast its destroyed its own reputation
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He could have said more, but then the waiter turned up with his order of a 1/2-periperi chicken not too spicy only missing the blue passport imo Failed Imagineer fucked around with this message at 12:06 on Sep 22, 2019 |
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Sep 22, 2019 12:04
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https://twitter.com/moorehn/status/1175716096428691456?s=19 the best twitter genre is comfortable white women accusing socialists of being white. is there a good longread on this pathology?
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Darth Walrus posted:I think Shipman said it was a private conversation leaked to him by one of the people Fisher spoke to. He never intended it to be public, and certainly not in the Times. hmm, you are right as per Shipman's twitter. this is not apparent in the Times front page ... it is an oddly graphic memo, still. It's as if one were salivating over a hostile piece, "class war" really? in other news https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1175350473622208512
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ronya posted:hmm, you are right as per Shipman's twitter. this is not apparent in the Times front page More of the ‘EU-UK customs union, close relationship with the single market (whatever that means) and membership of agencies that are only open to EU Member States stuff’ then 
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:I believe he also said that the UK must issue an apology for the empire, send the crown jewels to brussels so that the public can touch them, and set up a refugee campsite at the Diana memorial park
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https://twitter.com/thesundaytimes/status/1175682248252841984 when did labour get good
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A poll of what some labour members want according to yougov of course reflects what the party are going to do. 
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p07p0qkn A hotel in Tunisia is currently holding British people hostage as Thomas Cook havent paid them for the holiday these people have been on. They are refusing to let people leave the hotel grounds.
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Sep 22, 2019 12:50
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Theres some good deals on the ThomasCook homepage still, might book myself a nice little getaway.
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serious gaylord posted:https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p07p0qkn The company is hosed, it lost £1.5bn in the last 6 months and has insane levels of debt. Capitalism.
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Cheese made with unpasteurized milk can be real good though, like isle of mull cheddar
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All travel companies from the UK are hosed now due to Brexit. Thomas Cook is just the first.
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It amazes me that the most brexity people I know are the ones who go abroad on two holidays a year. The travel companies know they're hosed mostly because the second they raise their proces they're going to be inundated with rabid gammons accusing them of project fear and greed. Reminds me of that headline in the Mail just after the referendum, outraged that customs queues would be longer for Brits and we would have to buy our own health insurance again.
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Pesmerga posted:More of the ‘EU-UK customs union, close relationship with the single market (whatever that means) and membership of agencies that are only open to EU Member States stuff’ then what's the three months thing about. nothing at all could possibly get done in that time, other than may's deal but we promise it's isn't
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