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Blue Footed Booby
Oct 4, 2006

got those happy feet

you broke my grill posted:

The magic bulltet is not even the head shot. The head shot that people are preoccupied with from the Zapruder film is that JFK's head moves 'back and to the left' implying a shot from the front

but how many people have you seen actually shot in the head irl? how do you know how they react? if you look at frames 313 and 314 you can see blood splatter moving forward and then the resulting blood spray moves his head back from the recoil of the bullet and gore moving out of the forward of his head

and the autopsy shows an entry wound in the back of his head

The magic bullet stops being magic once you account for the limo not being stock. It had a slightly raised rear seat.

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you broke my grill
Jul 11, 2019

Blue Footed Booby posted:

The magic bullet stops being magic once you account for the limo not being stock. It had a slightly raised rear seat.

yeah





also this wasnt the fatal shot

Bad Purchase
Jun 17, 2019




sorry op, but we've moved on to the shinzo abe assassin, he had a wicked cool homemade firearm

databasic
Jan 8, 2024
What version of the left do you believe would idolize schizophrenic ideology coupled with a willingness to resort to extreme violence?

you broke my grill
Jul 11, 2019

if Shinzo Abe's assassin lived in America he could have simply ordered a rifle to his PO Box with a fake name

Quotey
Aug 16, 2006

We went out for lunch and then we stopped for some bubble tea.
was he really a serious leftist? he seems like more of just a goof. defected to the ussr to get made fun of in a factory and came back despite renouncing his citizenship because he was annoying or something. just more of an aesthetic thing

khwarezm
Oct 26, 2010

Deal with it.

Quotey posted:

was he really a serious leftist? he seems like more of just a goof. defected to the ussr to get made fun of in a factory and came back despite renouncing his citizenship because he was annoying or something. just more of an aesthetic thing

He was as serious as 99% of all leftists. In fact he took it very far when you account for him literally defecting to the USSR, that was way beyond what your average college marxist was willing to do.

He wasn't like smart, but even the Soviet experience didn't dissuade him, he kind of just projected his newest Socialist utopia onto Cuba after being disappointed in the USSR and hated JFK because of his anti-Cuban policies.

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010

People also think the Unabomber was "lefty goals" despite, well, a lot of everything about him. So iunno, left just seems to mean "vaguely attacked the government, a government employed persons or place" I guess? That seems to be the main factor.

Edit: people should get offline and touch grass is the point I think.

you broke my grill
Jul 11, 2019

Quotey posted:

was he really a serious leftist? he seems like more of just a goof. defected to the ussr to get made fun of in a factory and came back despite renouncing his citizenship because he was annoying or something. just more of an aesthetic thing


I think he had serious leftist leanings with seeing the problems capitalism in the United States and thinking better things were possible

His possible reading disabilities maybe dyslexia could have prevented him from learning more serious theory, also the general attitude in the USA

idk how serious he was

I think at the end of the day I would describe him as "someone who is dissatisfied with life and thinks no matter where he is the circumstances are the problem"

he was unhappy in the USA so he moved to the USSR, but he was unhappy in the USSR, but then was also unhappy there. in 1963 he wanted to move to Cuba the true paradise but was never able to make it

Lee had a lot of mental problems and maybe his leftist leanings were just a reactionary response to his envnironment and wanting to be rebel.

but I don't think he was wrong in saying workers in the USA were exploited


in short, Lee Harvey Oswald was a man of contrasts

khwarezm
Oct 26, 2010

Deal with it.

syntaxfunction posted:

People also think the Unabomber was "lefty goals" despite, well, a lot of everything about him. So iunno, left just seems to mean "vaguely attacked the government, a government employed persons or place" I guess? That seems to be the main factor.

Edit: people should get offline and touch grass is the point I think.

The Unabomber very specifically mocked and critiqued what he considered the failures of Marxism as an ideology. Oswald was absolutely a leftist and a very committed one, even if he didn't have the most in depth grasp of the actual theory. There's no real point in denying that.

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010

khwarezm posted:

The Unabomber very specifically mocked and critiqued what he considered the failures of Marxism as an ideology. Oswald was absolutely a leftist and a very committed one, even if he didn't have the most in depth grasp of the actual theory. There's no real point in denying that.

I'm more pointing out that most people are loving dumb when talking about this stuff and will take one thing they like and ignore the rest because the internet is a cyclical stupidity chamber.

Oswald may have been left, but there's a shocking amount of people who identify as "left" that think the Unabomber was too, so basically it's a very dumb and useless term now.

Edit: it's like how "gaslight" was a really good and useful term to describe a specific type of manipulation and abuse, and then it got misused to oblivion and gets thrown around as "you disagree with me and I don't like it".

you broke my grill
Jul 11, 2019

Oswald tries to explain his views in this radio interview about Cuba

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_mg5-KCjRU



I think really he was just a sad lonely person and looking for something to belong to

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010

you broke my grill posted:

Oswald tries to explain his views in this radio interview about Cuba

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_mg5-KCjRU



I think really he was just a sad lonely person and looking for something to belong to

If only we could have gotten him a forums account :(

Trilly Joel
Apr 27, 2023


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He's my personal idol FYI op

JediTalentAgent
Jun 5, 2005
Hey, look. Look, if- if you screw me on this, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine, you rat bastard!
I'm going to name my first child Lee-Harvey Oswald.

Hopefully when they do something infamous like this every google search will result Lee Harvey Oswald, instead.

you broke my grill
Jul 11, 2019

Lee was named after Robert E. Lee, like his father

maybe his family was racist

Brain Curry
Feb 15, 2007

People think that I'm lazy
People think that I'm this fool because
I give a fuck about the government
I didn't graduate from high school



This is canon. https://youtu.be/KmkmKrbMgvI

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

The truth is out there

Nae
Sep 3, 2020

what.


so is this https://youtu.be/tI5_YuCWTMA?si=2jrvxOJEizrV45ND

Haptical Sales Slut
Mar 15, 2010

Age 18 to 49
Oswald was a known cia asset, he was groomed since he was investigated by a doctor at 17 the second time he tried to join the army.

He was stationed in Japan around high tech bomber stealth tech, then was told to try and join the ussr. They eventually let him stay and he married and then the cia paid to relocate him to Dallas, allowing him and his wife reentry to the US, despite having renounced his citizenship. He then moved right next to the cia and fbi offices.

The cia routinely used the mob for their connections and plausible deniability. They both wanted cuba gone for their owns reasons so they decided taking out the pussy president that was going to let communism destroy America/refused to take out Castro.

He wasn’t a leftist hero he was just autistic.

you broke my grill
Jul 11, 2019

when Oswald was in the marine he worked the radar at the base where the U2 plane was stationed and when he defected to the USSR he told them how to shoot it down

Bloodfart McCoy
Jul 20, 2007

That's a high quality avatar right there.

AKA The Dealey Plaza Carwash

MrQwerty
Apr 15, 2003

LOVE IS BEAUTIFUL
(づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ♥(‘∀’●)



you broke my grill posted:

when Oswald was in the marine he worked the radar at the base where the U2 plane was stationed and when he defected to the USSR he told them how to shoot it down

So he ruined JFK AND Gary Powers' lives!?

XeeD
Jul 10, 2001
I see invisible dumptrucks.
How the hell has it taken me like twenty years to notice the Dead Kennedys logo on the back wall in that picture? That's the real mystery.

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

I'm a girl, and you're
gnomes, and it's like
what? Yikes.

databasic posted:

What version of the left do you believe would idolize schizophrenic ideology coupled with a willingness to resort to extreme violence?

loving lol

Mr Teatime
Apr 7, 2009

Talk to me when he finishes the job and destroys every other American op.

flubber nuts
Oct 5, 2005


Lee Harvey Oswald should have assassinated the statue of liberty instead of JFK. Things could have been a lot different.

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

jfk and rfk are legit good dudes and america would be less crappy if they didn’t die

Worf
Sep 12, 2017

If only Seth would love me like I love him!

Vegetable posted:

jfk and rfk are legit good dudes and america would be less crappy if they didn’t die

I'm cancelling you

Nigmaetcetera
Nov 17, 2004

borkborkborkmorkmorkmork-gabbalooins

Vegetable posted:

jfk and rfk are legit good dudes and america would be less crappy if they didn’t die

Weren't they both amphetamine-gobbling sex addicts that killed Marilyn Monroe?

JediTalentAgent
Jun 5, 2005
Hey, look. Look, if- if you screw me on this, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine, you rat bastard!
In a gender flipped reality, would they be Bea Arlene Oswald or Dee Arlene Oswald? (Edit: drat, I forgot Leigh Arlene Oswald could also work.)

And would they have been shot by Ruby Jack, instead?

Worf
Sep 12, 2017

If only Seth would love me like I love him!

In that reality jfk dies from weaponized syphilis


Or is also a woman and utterly unelectable

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead
John Schrank did nothing wrong except miss

JediTalentAgent
Jun 5, 2005
Hey, look. Look, if- if you screw me on this, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine, you rat bastard!

Worf posted:

In that reality jfk dies from weaponized syphilis


Or is also a woman and utterly unelectable

Everything gender flipped. Matriarchial society, kind of like an episode of Sliders.

JFK is now Joanna F. Kennedy.

There's a Henrietta Kissinger. Ricki Nixon. Lydia B. Joansdaughter.

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

I'm a girl, and you're
gnomes, and it's like
what? Yikes.
The one constant in both realities is that LBJ still whips out their massive dick as a form of intimidation during negotiations.

Worf
Sep 12, 2017

If only Seth would love me like I love him!

counterfeitsaint posted:

The one constant in both realities is that LBJ still whips out their massive dick as a form of intimidation during negotiations.

He is uncircumcised in the alternate reality though 😻

Buce
Dec 23, 2005

Waffle House posted:

I think it's one of the best photoshops in SomethingAwful history.

you broke my grill
Jul 11, 2019

Vegetable posted:

jfk and rfk are legit good dudes and america would be less crappy if they didn’t die

at least when RFK Jr is president he will save us from vaccines

SilvergunSuperman
Aug 7, 2010

Jelly posted:

cutting myself with the edge in this post

Gottem, grandma

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steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

khwarezm posted:

Its honestly the greatest irony in American history lol. A hardcore leftist manages to kill the president to support an embattled socialist state, and forever after is seen as, at best, a stooge for the CIA.

He wasn't a leftist, the soviets kicked him out because he was too much of a useless, annoying dipshit. And so did every other organization he tried to join.

steinrokkan fucked around with this message at 11:19 on Feb 20, 2024

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