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He was an avowed Marxist and even though he wasn't very well-read in theory he believed in the cause and that workers were exploited and saw a lot of problems in society and wanted to make them better. He believed in this so strongly he moved to the Soviet Union. He married a foreign waifu. When the USSR didn't work out and he moved back to America he wanted to move to Cuba. He stood on the street corner and did activism in favor of Cuba against American imperialism. He killed the imperialist President of the USA and he killed a polceman ACAB. But rather than being a hero of socialism he is reviled. Is it because he actually took action instead of complaining on the internet?
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you got 'em OP, good job
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Feb 20, 2024 00:43
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he is actually. thread locked
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you broke my grill posted:He was an avowed Marxist and even though he wasn't very well-read in theory he believed in the cause and that workers were exploited and saw a lot of problems in society and wanted to make them better. He believed in this so strongly he moved to the Soviet Union. He married a foreign waifu. When the USSR didn't work out and he moved back to America he wanted to move to Cuba. He stood on the street corner and did activism in favor of Cuba against American imperialism. He killed the imperialist President of the USA and he killed a polceman ACAB. But rather than being a hero of socialism he is reviled. Is it because he actually took action instead of complaining on the internet? Its honestly the greatest irony in American history lol. A hardcore leftist manages to kill the president to support an embattled socialist state, and forever after is seen as, at best, a stooge for the CIA.
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Feb 20, 2024 00:44
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cutting myself with the edge in this post
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Feb 20, 2024 00:45
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taking a poo poo in the street is also taking action, but seems unlikely to be lauded very similarly to OP, actually
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Feb 20, 2024 00:46
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JFK isn't dead so he did all that for nothing.
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Feb 20, 2024 00:46
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khwarezm posted:Its honestly the greatest irony in American history lol. A hardcore leftist manages to kill the president to support an embattled socialist state, and forever after is seen as, at best, a stooge for the CIA. Most people don't believe the CIA conspiracy theories. I literally only ever run into it on these forums.
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Feb 20, 2024 00:48
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in my experience more people believe in some vague conspiracy even if they don't specifically say CIA but they never have a good theory they just say something like "idk it feels weird". but in all my reading nothing makes more sense than Oswald acting alone
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Feb 20, 2024 00:52
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Blue Footed Booby posted:I literally only ever run into it on these forums. This is not true and you are lying to me. Its bad to lie, listen to your mother.
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Feb 20, 2024 00:53
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It’s fair to say that more people criticize jfk than the person that killed him tbh
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Feb 20, 2024 00:57
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Lol
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Feb 20, 2024 01:01
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Idolatry is a sin op
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Feb 20, 2024 01:02
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Guy was so left-wing even his bullet turned left.
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Feb 20, 2024 01:03
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Conversely it’s far more rare to see people wonder if John Wilkes Boothe did something good, especially now that half the country is pretending that Lincoln was a maga republican
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Feb 20, 2024 01:03
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you broke my grill posted:in my experience more people believe in some vague conspiracy even if they don't specifically say CIA but they never have a good theory they just say something like "idk it feels weird". but in all my reading nothing makes more sense than Oswald acting alone a lot of people like to think "everything happens for a reason" and the thought of someone single-handedly destroying ~~*~camelot~*~~ is just too terrifying to consider, so of course it had to be the result of a nefarious conspiracy imo it's one of the more pernicious beliefs that old people cling to, the notion that everything would have been so much better if jfk hadn't been killed and had served two terms as president
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Worf posted:Conversely it’s far more rare to see people wonder if John Wilkes Boothe did something good, especially now that half the country is pretending that Lincoln was a maga republican if you ask someone how they feel about lincoln and they come back with "he was a monstrous tyrant and the worst president in american history" you probably found yourself a hardcore an-cap lol
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Feb 20, 2024 01:05
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:the notion that everything would have been so much better if jfk hadn't been killed and had served two terms as president Seeing as Nixon and Kissinger followed, they're right
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like nobody ever thinks john hinckley was part of a vast conspiracy, but reagan could easily have been killed and if he had there'd probably be a huge amount of conspiracy theory bullshit about it too
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Vampire Panties posted:Seeing as Nixon and Kissinger followed, they're right why are you assuming nixon couldn't have won following two terms of jfk?
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Feb 20, 2024 01:08
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Because he murdered a head of state, OP. Very uncool.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:
TBF, apparently JFK was much more of a hardass about Israel than his successor, especially regarding their nuclear weapons programme which he put them under a lot of pressure about. Of course for conspiracists that adds Mossad to the list of people who killed him. Farmer Crack-rear end posted:like nobody ever thinks john hinckley was part of a vast conspiracy, but reagan could easily have been killed and if he had there'd probably be a huge amount of conspiracy theory bullshit about it too I dislike how I see lots of half assed internet leftists try to act like Hinckley was cool when 1. He failed 2. He was doing it because he was a weird pervert about Jodi Foster (and implied pedo considering that he was obsessed with her in Taxi Driver specifically)
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:if you ask someone how they feel about lincoln and they come back with "he was a monstrous tyrant and the worst president in american history" you probably found yourself a hardcore an-cap lol yeah the terminally online and perpetually unemployed have outlying ideas posted from their moms iPhone
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Feb 20, 2024 01:09
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:why are you assuming nixon couldn't have won following two terms of jfk? why are you assuming he could have? It probably would've been Goldwater
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Feb 20, 2024 01:11
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Because he was a misogynistic misanthrope that routinely treated everyone in his life like poo poo and had chronic main character syndrome
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Feb 20, 2024 01:12
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I heard trump loves Goldwater
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Worf posted:yeah the terminally online and perpetually unemployed have outlying ideas posted from their moms iPhone the guy i heard that one from was a co-worker at a rinky-dink halfass call center. ironically, when he wasn't talking politics he was great to work with. but unfortunately every so often he'd just go on a bizarre tear out of nowhere. "it shouldn't be illegal to drive drunk!" etc Vampire Panties posted:why are you assuming he could have? It probably would've been Goldwater it's been a while since i read rick perlstein's books but i don't recall nixon's rise being specific to conditions created by johnson and if you're going to cite the vietnam war i don't think it is certain that jfk would necessarily have pulled out
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Froghammer posted:Because he was a misogynistic misanthrope that routinely treated everyone in his life like poo poo and had chronic main character syndrome this is what's fascinating about the story, and I've never heard anyone use the exact phrase "head had main character syndrome" but it fits so very well and what makes it such an incredible coincidence and amazing random occurence of fate. imagine you had main character syndrome and one day you read in the newspaper that the president is driving right by your window at work and you already own the rifle and you want to be famous, how could you not act given such great circumstances? I mean it just seems like the only reason he did it is "because he could" but people don't want to accept that as an answer. But it still seems like the most likely theory to me.
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Feb 20, 2024 01:16
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Remember the time that Marilyn Monroe gal sang all sexy to JfK?
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Why would I idolize some rube the CIA framed?
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sure okay posted:Why would I idolize some rube the CIA framed? because you don't like the CIA and feel bad that he was killed because of their machinations
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op is a moron
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Feb 20, 2024 01:22
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Well, this is a thread.
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im a millennial left winger with "the american government always fucks up" in my bundle of theories/on my bingo card. so the theory that one of the Secret Service guys accidentally domed JFK with an M16 really speaks to me
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:the guy i heard that one from was a co-worker at a rinky-dink halfass call center. ironically, when he wasn't talking politics he was great to work with. but unfortunately every so often he'd just go on a bizarre tear out of nowhere. Nixon was a ratfucker who happened to be in the right places at the right times. Its really hard to say if the stars would've aligned for him, especially after losing in 1960. also w/r/t withdrawing from Vietnam - it seems doubtful that JFK would've supported the ARVN after they assassinated Diem and his brother, regardless if JFK had already considered a coup to replace him.  Especially after they were shot in Roman Catholic priest robes
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I dunno, he's no  guyMaybe you should try idolizing the North Hollywood shootout guys more like how Australia loves Ned Kelly (Bank robber, bulletproof armour, shot cops, etc) you broke my grill posted:this is what's fascinating about the story, and I've never heard anyone use the exact phrase "head had main character syndrome" but it fits so very well
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I feel like ballistics and physical evidence 100% points to the only shots coming from the 6th floor window from the book depository fired from the rifle owned by Oswald and I will not listen to any theories beyond that. I also feel like all the evidence I've heard points to it being Oswald being the lone shooter acting alone not part of a conspiracy but I am slightly more open to listening to conspiracies about that because I can never say 100% that that's right but I have never heard a theory that has convinced me more than the Warren Commission story
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i like to idolize people who haven't killed anyone
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Dumb Sex-Parrot posted:i like to idolize people who haven't killed anyone well how is that going to make the revolution happen
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