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Astoundingly Ugly Baby posted:My favorite part about Pearson books/software is that you can get hosed on some online assignments by ridiculous poo poo like whether or not you've put a space after a formula by accident. Don't you loving dare mistype and leave a space after your equal sign, you piece of poo poo. Kibbles n Shits posted:Yea this, also it is purposefully inconsistent and full of gotchya moments, like sometimes it will want answers written in a different format without making it obvious. Like one problem it'll ask for the x intercepts of f(x) as an ordered pair, and the next will ask the same but expect the answer as just the x value by itself without making it obvious that the required answer format is different. So I'll do the problem again, arrive at the same answer, and then mash enter out of frustration to see where I went wrong and it'll be like "Correct answer: 5" "Your answer: (5, 0)" And this was the worst part of it all. MyMathLab (and the chem equivalent) was so anal about answers that both my professors applied blanket bonuses to homework assignments just to account for the horrific level of false flags and the high crime of don't knowing whatever the hell MML wanted the answer format in. Just googling my math lab brings in similar results.  Yeah whatever I guess ill die poor as a social science major. Anything over having to take college math courses again.
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buglord posted:And this was the worst part of it all. MyMathLab (and the chem equivalent) was so anal about answers that both my professors applied blanket bonuses to homework assignments just to account for the horrific level of false flags and the high crime of don't knowing whatever the hell MML wanted the answer format in. Just googling my math lab brings in similar results. I'm on MyMathLabs side of this. You suck at commas and your fingers are fat.
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Mar 20, 2017 02:00
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Dave_Indeed posted:I'm on MyMathLabs side of this. You suck at commas and your fingers are fat. Yea, owned
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Mar 20, 2017 02:01
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Another time it asked for a horizontal asymptote and the correct answer was "y=0". The very next problem the horizontal asymptote was again 0, but "y=0" was incorrect, it just wanted "0".
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Mar 20, 2017 02:04
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Lol at people taking basic math in college where the only part that matters is the number at the end.
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Mar 20, 2017 02:09
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emoji posted:Lol at people taking basic math in college where the only part that matters is the number at the end. lol yea lollin at the people trying to relearn math and acquire skills to better themselves just fukkin lol m8
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Mar 20, 2017 02:10
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Another time MML literally came to my house and poo poo in my mouth
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Mar 20, 2017 02:11
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emoji posted:Lol at people taking basic math in college where the only part that matters is the number at the end. For some reason a lot of sports teachers taught math in grade school and everyone just considered it this "thing" that had to be done just to graduate. also like the only kids that were good at math were weird and smelled funny, and you deffo didnt wanna lose your spot on the middle school social ladder by being one of those people
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Mar 20, 2017 02:14
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Kibbles n Shits posted:lol yea lollin at the people trying to relearn math and acquire skills to better themselves just fukkin lol m8 Those classes don't actually teach math they're just for grifting people with gen ed math requirements.
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Mar 20, 2017 02:15
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I heard that back in the 90's a bunch of would-be computer janitors had their text books for Microsoft's Java VM confiscated and the class was pulled and everybody got maced and now they can't do poo poo without asking Oracle permission
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buglord posted:For some reason a lot of sports teachers taught math in grade school and everyone just considered it this "thing" that had to be done just to graduate. also like the only kids that were good at math were weird and smelled funny, and you deffo didnt wanna lose your spot on the middle school social ladder by being one of those people Oh god, that definitely brings back memories of middle school algebra being taught by our mush mouthed basketball coach.
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Mar 20, 2017 02:19
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Kibbles n Shits posted:Oh god, that definitely brings back memories of middle school algebra being taught by our mush mouthed basketball coach. We had dedicated math teachers in middle and high school
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Mar 20, 2017 02:24
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My 8th grade math teacher was a hippy with a ponytail that rode a bike to school every day. Ponytail hippies are the best math teachers.
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Mar 20, 2017 02:25
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Bareback Werewolf posted:My 8th grade math teacher was a hippy with a ponytail that rode a bike to school every day. Ponytail hippies are the best math teachers. Did he have an oversized ww2 light machinegun and/or a pistol the size of his thumbnail?
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Mar 20, 2017 02:28
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EorayMel posted:Did he have an oversized ww2 light machinegun and/or a pistol the size of his thumbnail? Not that I know of, no.
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Blue Train posted:An educated poor is a dangerous poor this unironically
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Mar 20, 2017 02:34
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Had an easily agitated and entirely incompetent algebra teacher in middle school. He had zero skill at teaching; if a student managed to get their raised hand acknowledged whilst he was busy reading from the textbook, he would just repeat himself until the student was frustrated or intimidated enough to pretend to understand. Just about everyone that had him in 8th grade wound up having to start high school with remedial algebra classes. During a high school reunion a bunch of us wound up talking about that fucker, and apparently a former student of his went on to be a bill collector. The bill collector by chance found himself on a phone call with said teacher wrt a late boat payment, (lol?) and offered him a simple payment arrangement in algebraic terms that grew exponentially. Believe it or not, teach agreed and wound up losing his boat.
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Mar 20, 2017 03:00
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Bloody Antlers posted:Had an easily agitated and entirely incompetent algebra teacher in middle school. He had zero skill at teaching; if a student managed to get their raised hand acknowledged whilst he was busy reading from the textbook, he would just repeat himself until the student was frustrated or intimidated enough to pretend to understand. Haha, all the dumb losers that couldn't learn something by just reading the book banded together to get revenge on an older loser they unjustly blame their problems on. He really hosed you out of engineering school pal. Haha what a stupid piece of poo poo op hehe, lol.
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Mar 20, 2017 03:29
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I had a professor that uploaded our book on blackboard in pdfs. Fuckin sweet. Thanks!
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emoji posted:Lol at people taking basic math in college where the only part that matters is the number at the end. There are online homework systems used for upper level math courses too, but obviously they aren't set up for you to key in y^2 e^(x y) sin(x - y) - e^(x y) sin(x - y) + 2 y e^(x y) cos(x - y) So instead they reformulate the questions as d^2/dx^2 at (pi/4, 0). Anyway Webwork is pretty good these days as far as that kind of poo poo goes. It can be set up to provide hints, tell a student stuff like "Expected a vector, you entered what looks like a point", tell them which parts of a multipart entry are incorrect, etc. It's also open source and doesn't cost much. The issue is that Webwork doesn't provide kickbacks to professors or colleges like Pearson does, so you only find it here and there from especially principled professors. I did bang a Community College professor when she was visiting Vegas who has lots of classes full of adult men with flashcards though, but hey, that's what you get singing on for one of those jobs. buglord posted:For some reason a lot of sports teachers taught math in grade school and everyone just considered it this "thing" that had to be done just to graduate. also like the only kids that were good at math were weird and smelled funny, and you deffo didnt wanna lose your spot on the middle school social ladder by being one of those people It's because they were the only men working in the gradeschool ~~~~ raton fucked around with this message at 03:45 on Mar 20, 2017 |
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Mar 20, 2017 03:38
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Bloody Antlers posted:Had an easily agitated and entirely incompetent algebra teacher in middle school. He had zero skill at teaching; if a student managed to get their raised hand acknowledged whilst he was busy reading from the textbook, he would just repeat himself until the student was frustrated or intimidated enough to pretend to understand. There are such things as bad teachers, of course, but every bit of math I learned from maybe 7th grade on was learned by staring at the book and doing problems. Teachers have mostly been helpful in winnowing down the material in the book to what they thought mattered most and occasionally reminding me of connections to stuff from earlier on (or in the future) that I'd have glossed over. Giving someone your shortcuts or ways of thinking about something rarely help because they're hard to internalize.
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CJacobs posted:I've only had one class in my whole 4-year college experience that did that, and it was because it was a math course that had the dumb online software thing attached to it like a parasite. It's probably more common in bigger schools with high attendance or in more urban areas (as opposed to suburban, where I live). I want to a JC in a CA suburb, and many times the book cost more than tuition for the course.
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some colleges get pearson or whatever to make a special version just for their campus/institution, which is usually the same thing with an intentionally obfuscated ISBN number and a bunch of words shifted around from the normal "retail" version. one time I saw that it was just a modified cover. but yeah, the system is totes legit.
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I had math professors who made things clear as can be and easily explained and math professors who I could not understand and really no one could understand and if it wasn't for the TA who was awesome I would not have known what the gently caress was going on. Guy would write small on the board and stand in front of it so you could not see then erase from the town down for each new problem. Favorite math teacher was super chill Buddhist who went to people he knew were having issues and worked with them to get it right.
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Mar 20, 2017 04:08
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Wrath of the Bitch King posted:some colleges get pearson or whatever to make a special version just for their campus/institution, which is usually the same thing with an intentionally obfuscated ISBN number and a bunch of words shifted around from the normal "retail" version. one time I saw that it was just a modified cover. It's usually the full book with a single chapter removed.
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Dave_Indeed. I have no idea why, but you are one of my favorite posters. Also, gently caress the textbook industry. Did I mention that already? Because gently caress them. One of my programming instructors wasn't having any of that textbook poo poo so he had us just buy a book on Perl which was like 1,000 pages and $30. The school wanted the textbooks and he didn't care. He also asked me to drop the class and come work for him. Like an idiot, I did not. I guess the whole punishment of this was that we had to learn Perl.
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Fallorn posted:I had math professors who made things clear as can be and easily explained and math professors who I could not understand and really no one could understand and if it wasn't for the TA who was awesome I would not have known what the gently caress was going on. Guy would write small on the board and stand in front of it so you could not see then erase from the town down for each new problem. Favorite math teacher was super chill Buddhist who went to people he knew were having issues and worked with them to get it right. I signed up for college algebra, didn't pay attention and got a Rush course thing that ends on the mid-term for normal classes. The professor was chinese and could not speak fluent english He used pearson but he didn't just lean on the book, he taught his own thing. So it was an actual nightmare until I found outside help.
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Mar 20, 2017 05:10
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did you guys know that there's WebWork for fuckin' Galois Theory like, why.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvpsYnRssqI
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I had an algebra professor who was basically Doc Brown. He was the most eccentric genius. His class involved going over a certain formula or some sort of topic for about 15 minutes. He broke everything down so simply that you would have to be actively trying to not learn to not get it. Then he would go around the room and personally sit next to every single person while they were working and helped guide them through it. He'd pick just a handful of homework questions that he felt were the best, like.... 10 of them... and away we went. At the end of the semester, he talked to everyone about their grade personally. He sat next to me and said "So, what do you think your grade should be?" I was taken aback but he was dead serious. I actually had to think about it. I figured that I came to every class, I did all of the work, and did very well. So I said that I possibly maybe might perhaps deserve a 4.0. He was like "Yeah, that's what I thought too." I got a 4.0. I googled him later and found out that he was a pioneer of virtual reality in the 80s and had an insanely prestigious record of doing all sorts of poo poo. This was at a technical school. He was teaching algebra just because he liked it. Best.... loving.... teacher.... ever in my entire life. I wish I remembered his name. That right there was an awesome human being. Pennywise the Frown fucked around with this message at 05:57 on Mar 20, 2017 |
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serious post: lmao if your professor does not begin with a lecture on how to NOT pirate the textbook for this class, for example, NOT going to a certain URL
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Mar 20, 2017 05:55
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Art and film textbooks own. The Animator's Survival Kit is great as a read on its own (it's mostly pictures). Arrhythmia posted:serious post: lmao if your professor does not begin with a lecture on how to NOT pirate the textbook for this class, for example, NOT going to a certain URL my foreign film teacher had The Pirate Bay in his bookmarks bar
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Arrhythmia posted:did you guys know that there's WebWork for fuckin' Galois Theory Pretty sure that just means an enterprising professor did some WW questions at some point and then enabled them to be shared. In any case WebWork is actually good so it's good to have WW on Galois Theory.
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Putty posted:Art and film textbooks own. The Animator's Survival Kit is great as a read on its own (it's mostly pictures). If you want to show any soviet era stuff from mosfilm with English subtitling you basically have to find pirated copies and unofficial translations
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I haven't been in school for 11 years but I wouldn't mind getting a couple new biostat books. Springer pretty much owns that market, among many others. Does anyone know how SpringerLink works for university students/staff/etc.? Can you actually get the whole book free? Or are there some limitations?
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actionjackson posted:Does anyone know how SpringerLink works for university students/staff/etc.? Can you actually get the whole book free? Or are there some limitations? It's just a regular rear end .pdf of the book. e: I mean, maybe don't be handing it out to every Tom Dick and Harry who asks you but I doubt Springer's roving copy-right death-cops will break down your door because you kept a copy of Riemannian Geometry on your hard drive after graduation. Arrhythmia fucked around with this message at 06:35 on Mar 20, 2017 |
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Mar 20, 2017 06:33
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spud posted:I am at a local community college studying history and philosophy lol
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Mar 20, 2017 06:38
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Yes extremely liberal colleges that are full of pretentious staff are still treating their students like customers. Making millions from tuition and millions from sports all while pretending to be leftists who have a moral superiority to the non college educated.
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the worst ones are the classes that require a textbook and base their homework off the questions in the book, so you have no choice but to buy the current edition and everything. all they do between editions of the book is scramble the questions. loving hate that
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Bodyholes posted:the worst ones are the classes that require a textbook and base their homework off the questions in the book, so you have no choice but to buy the current edition and everything. all they do between editions of the book is scramble the questions. that's like the whole stem field
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