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Ze Pollack posted:that and a lot of centrists are still v. mad at him for demonstrating Obama's commitment to civil rights can be best summed up as "lol" you do realize you could have phrased this in a way that doesn't involve smug sniping at "centrists", right and also maybe in a way that actually shares more information, but eh, let's not get crazy here, i'll take a vague reference to his past work without trying to stir poo poo
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Javes posted:It's hilarious that they're trying to push this narrative that tax reform is a priority for normal everyday Americans. And that Trump isn't pre-occupied with and constantly rubber necking towards poll numbers and crowd sizes and people being critical of him. Also again this whole press conference is just refusing to answer basically any questions whatsoever and belittling the very idea that the press would ask questions. Like just so loving belligerent. Like I'll take some questions now->Tons of pertinent questions that are on people's minds->WHAT A STUPID QUESTION, NOT GETTING INTO THAT, GOD I THOUGHT I WAS CLEAR ON THIS GUYS! TUESDAY!!!!!
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TVs Ian posted:https://twitter.com/DavidNir/status/903694203586318337  aware of dog posted:He looks like Gabe Newell in colonial garb 
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No Butt Stuff posted:^^^^ You know, it wouldn't surprise me if some of the "diplomatic staff" suddenly got a strong urge to serve God as part of the clergy of the local Russian Orthodox Church.
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My understanding of the smoke thing is that the implication is that they're burning documents, yes?
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Lightning Knight posted:My understanding of the smoke thing is that the implication is that they're burning documents, yes? No they elected a new pope.
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I hope the press grills the ever loving loving poo poo out of her about all this stuff on Tuesday. Like just drown her in questions and point out this conference about how adamant she was about the Tuesday thing. Also this Trump visit tomorrow intrigues me as does the idea of him actually meeting with real people and trying to demonstrate sentiments like empathy. I have a hard time believing this would ever actually happen. I've never seen Trump go into any environment that isn't guaranteed to be stocked with his hard line supporters and where things can go off script in a way that he isn't in control of. e: second mentioning of this President loves people crap. Okay cool show it because all I see from him is hatred, bile and beefs about his enemies. Kale fucked around with this message at 20:48 on Sep 1, 2017 |
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Lightning Knight posted:I mean, the problem with Greenwald is that he buys into the tankie framing, i.e. using "America is specifically bad" as a starting baseline assumption and then working backwards to prove it, even if it means embracing shitheel human scum like Putin or the North Korean government that happen to position themselves as anti-American. it's essentially a weird variation on team politics instead of anything based on principles or ideology and it makes him come across as super douchey, because well, he's a douche. Which undermines his stated aims and add to the confusion. Assuming that American Imperialism is the only thing that matters and therefore it's fine to ignore/deflect from Russian Imperialism is terrible. The only serious way to oppose fakenews, etc is with some actual loving honesty.
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Lightning Knight posted:My understanding of the smoke thing is that the implication is that they're burning documents, yes? https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/903691364122152962?s=15 Yup
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TVs Ian posted:https://twitter.com/DavidNir/status/903694203586318337 Comedy is dead. Farce has outrun it.
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lol that guy just gave you a huge opportunity to condemn antifa violence and she didn't take it
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Lightning Knight posted:My understanding of the smoke thing is that the implication is that they're burning documents, yes? Yes, although to be fair literally every foreign consulate on earth would be destroying documents like mad if they were about to be shut down/ compromised. The funny part is that they might be using the chimney like loving amateurs instead of machines specially designed for the purpose of destroying documents past the NSAs ability to recover them.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Libertarian, just the rare kind that takes civil liberties seriously. He's been very critical of the Temer government for it's deep austerity cuts. Why do you say he's a libertarian?
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Pellisworth posted:lol that guy just gave you a huge opportunity to condemn antifa violence and she didn't take it She's too busy being standoffish, belittling and seemingly hating her job to notice.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:you do realize you could have phrased this in a way that doesn't involve smug sniping at "centrists", right no, i'm pretty sure he couldn't
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That last question was extremely reasonable and her "I'm not gonna talk about it" makes me really mad. Also all the questions.
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Old Kentucky Shark posted:Yes, although to be fair literally every foreign consulate on earth would be destroying documents like mad if they were about to be shut down/ compromised. So... is this happening because of Mueller? I assume Trump didn't authorize this poo poo.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:you do realize you could have phrased this in a way that doesn't involve smug sniping at "centrists", right I could have, sure, but I have fond memories of the usual suspects explaining why blanket surveillance of Americans was Good Actually. for some reason they defend this belief less aggressively now that Jeff Sessions is trying to use it to ID who's protesting against Trump 
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Lightning Knight posted:My understanding of the smoke thing is that the implication is that they're burning documents, yes? or hard drives
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haveblue posted:When they closed the consulate they turn off the heat, everyone's huddled around the fireplace for warmth. 
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Lightning Knight posted:So... is this happening because of Mueller? I assume Trump didn't authorize this poo poo. Tillerson, I think. I'm pretty sure he authorized the blowback on Russia for closing our stuff.
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Lightning Knight posted:So... is this happening because of Mueller? I assume Trump didn't authorize this poo poo. this is because they're being kicked out of those consulates, standard practice is to burn and destroy all documents i have my suspicious tillerson didn't fully brief trump on the plan to kick the russians out of those consulates but it definitely wasn't mueller
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evilweasel posted:or hard drives Everyone knows you wash hard drives with
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Jealous Cow posted:https://twitter.com/RWPUSA/status/903705260828577792 holy gently caress the party of small government, indeed
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theflyingorc posted:That last question was extremely reasonable and her "I'm not gonna talk about it" makes me really mad. All the questions were frankly totally fine so either she can't understand the difference between asking for preliminary details versus finalized ones on the DACA thing or priority one is just finding angles to try to belittle the pretense of being asked questions. Like seriously you announce something like that and then turn around and be pissy with the press asking you about your next big policy drive that you start off by blowing a lot of smoke about but turns out you actually possibly haven't even started discussing in detail within policy making circles. Either way it makes the Trump administration look bad again because either their just stonewalling the press on details or they haven't even begun to draft any actual policy yet and they just look incompetent again. Kale fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Sep 1, 2017 |
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CascadeBeta posted:Glad they got 24 hours notice. It is a diplomatic consulate. You can't just search it. The guest country will burn everything they can, the host country will try to find something they missed.
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theflyingorc posted:Tillerson, I think. I'm pretty sure he authorized the blowback on Russia for closing our stuff. I thought Tillerson was supposed to be in Putin's camp? Wasn't that the big worry when he was appointed?
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Xae posted:It is a diplomatic consulate. yeah you don't gently caress around with diplomatic privileges because they'll gently caress you right back
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Lightning Knight posted:My understanding of the smoke thing is that the implication is that they're burning documents, yes? Yes, but I believe that is standard procedure when any consulate is vacated.
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TheOneAndOnlyT posted:Normally I'd make a joke here about how cold SF is compared to everything around it but it's apparently 98 degrees there right now And it's gonna be 111 today 40 minutes East of there Global warming is fake
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Lightning Knight posted:I thought Tillerson was supposed to be in Putin's camp? Wasn't that the big worry when he was appointed? I think the current consensus is that Tillerson is kinda-sorta trying to do his job, perhaps maybe I don't want to commit too hard on that because I'll summon a "Tillerson does something crazy evil" story out of the ether in the next 6 hours just by acting like he's not a complete mustache twirling villain for 5 seconds
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logger posted:Yes, but I believe that is standard procedure when any consulate is vacated. Oh yeah, this doesn't surprise me at all. What surprises me is that we're kicking them out at all.
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Lightning Knight posted:I thought Tillerson was supposed to be in Putin's camp? Wasn't that the big worry when he was appointed? Under normal circumstances I'd consider him pretty terrible, but in this administration he's done a pretty good job of being the adult in the room.
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