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I'd like to know what the "worth watching" voyager eps are in that guide because these here trek threads can never come up with more than 12-15, less than 20.
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Scudworth posted:I'd like to know what the "worth watching" voyager eps are in that guide because these here trek threads can never come up with more than 12-15, less than 20. The Thaw probably has the distinction of appearing in many best of and worst of lists. It is one of the very few Voyager episodes I like.
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Feb 15, 2017 11:38
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Living Witness is also excellent.
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Feb 15, 2017 11:40
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Future's End is a good romp. Darkling is some good, good Doctor. Macrocosm is not great, as I have discussed of spookTrek, but it is fun. Scientific Method is Good. The Thaw is weird and creepy. You might have noticed a patern here. You could, I guess, round it off properly with The Haunting Of Deck 12, but that's a Nelix episode, which is basically Crusher and Troi episodes condensed into one. E: Oh and Memorial is poo poo. There that's all of them. Orv fucked around with this message at 12:22 on Feb 15, 2017 |
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Feb 15, 2017 12:17
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Just watch the last five minutes of "The Thaw." It's about an evil clown, and the only good part is when Janeway wrecks him in the end. Voyager sucks, so if you're going to watch it, just condense it down into one big season worth of good sci fi: "Jetrel" (1.15) "Meld" (2.16) "Deadlock" (2.21) "Darkling" (3.18) "Real Life" (3.22) "Scorpion" (3.26/4.1) "Year of Hell" (4.8/4.9) "Mortal Coil" (4.12) "Prey" (4.16) "The Killing Game" (4.18/4.19) "Living Witness" (4.23) "One" (4.25) "Latent Image" (5.11) "Bride of Chaotica!" (5.12) "Course: Oblivion" (5.18) (I guess you should also watch "Demon," ep. 4.24 for this one to make the most sense, but "Demon" sucks in comparison) "Equinox" (5.26/6.1) "Tinker, Tenor, Doctor, Spy" (6.4) "Human Error" (7.18) "Author, Author" (7.20) "Endgame" (7.25/7.26) ( I may have missed a couple good ones, but that's what I got from looking at the wiki list for a couple minutes.)
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Feb 15, 2017 13:50
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Don't forget to watch the one with The Rock.
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Feb 15, 2017 13:57
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Scudworth posted:I'd like to know what the "worth watching" voyager eps are in that guide because these here trek threads can never come up with more than 12-15, less than 20. Whatever you do, don't watch the pilot episodes. My last attempt to rewatch Voyager ended 20 minutes into the series premier because I knew how much of the show's premise is wasted. But it's all laid out right there for you: crew conflicts, stranded away from the niceties of 24th century life, inexperienced crew stepping up, etc. All of it, for the most part, is just thrown aside within the first season and a half.
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Feb 15, 2017 14:33
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I watched Year of Hell last night and didn't really like it at all. On the other hand, i liked Revulsion, so idk.
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Feb 15, 2017 15:11
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Cojawfee posted:It would be Klingon as gently caress to block universal translators during their plays. Or maybe the viewers turned it off themselves to hear it as it is meant to be heard. Opera IRL tends to be in German or Italian. It could be translated, but for serious performances you'll usually get it in the original language no matter where you or the performers are from.
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Feb 15, 2017 15:20
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Railing Kill posted:Just watch the last five minutes of "The Thaw." It's about an evil clown, and the only good part is when Janeway wrecks him in the end. I noticed that you were missing Blink Of an Eye, so I pulled the imdb ratings 8.0 or higher. Also added the bottom 5 ratings. 8.0+'s are not necessarily all good scifi, but watchable.  Edit: vvvvv too many Voyager episodes for my liking vvvvv CharlieWhiskey fucked around with this message at 15:59 on Feb 15, 2017 |
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Feb 15, 2017 15:53
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This is the episode guide im using. http://pastebin.com/CuAZmKV1 I am just getting started with season 5. To make the list, an episode must meet at least one of the following criteria: 1) Important to show continuity, i.e. affects multiple later episodes or resolves continuing plotlines. 2) Important to character development, i.e. Tom/B'Elanna romance or Seven's social skills. 3) Unusually good episode even if not important, i.e. The Thaw.
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Feb 15, 2017 15:56
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Deathwish is very good, and belongs on any worth-watching list. One of the few Q episodes that actually has a story beyond "Q does wacky things!".
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Angry Salami posted:Deathwish is very good, and belongs on any worth-watching list. One of the few Q episodes that actually has a story beyond "Q does wacky things!". Too bad they then turned the continuum into the American Civil War... But yes, Deathwish is a good Voyager episode.
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Feb 15, 2017 16:01
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willie_dee posted:This is the episode guide im using. gently caress me that is at least 4x too much voyager. If you watched this much and still think it's better than DS9, the DS9 list you're using is broken. Or you're mental. The 37s is on that list, no one should have to watch that. Scudworth fucked around with this message at 16:30 on Feb 15, 2017 |
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Feb 15, 2017 16:10
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Yeah, what's the DS9 guide you used? If I was making a "good DS9" list, it would probably be like, 3/4 of the show.
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Feb 15, 2017 16:17
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Here's my DS9 Viewing guide: Watch all the episodes, ESPECIALLY Move Along Home.
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Feb 15, 2017 16:30
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Alamarain, if you can see Alamarain, you'll watch with me
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Feb 15, 2017 16:34
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Like, poo poo, the worst episode of DS9 and the only one I could truly recommend be skipped is the Brigadoon planet one, and that's because it commits the heinous crime of being incredibly boring. All the other "bad" DS9s, in my opinion, are either totally insane and funny or roughly equivalent to a mediocre episode of TNG and just "bad" by DS9's higher standards.
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Feb 15, 2017 16:52
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Profit and Lace is worth skipping.
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Feb 15, 2017 16:53
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Cojawfee posted:If you've never even seen a movie, you can't really go around saying "wow, you guys actually like that lovely movie?" Beyond is great, though.
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Feb 15, 2017 16:54
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Dude, Beyond had an extended obnoxious dirtbike scene. It somehow usurps the Nemesis dune buggy scene as the goofiest superfluous vehicle poo poo in Star Trek.
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Feb 15, 2017 16:58
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The dirtbike made more sense to exist in the story and actually mattered to the plot, so I have to disagree that it was worse than the dunebuggy in a world of hover tech and suchlike.willie_dee posted:with all the dross cut, Voyager is way better than DS9. I guess this might be true in an odd way if what you mean is no trek is better than any trek , but I'd still disagree. skooma512 posted:Alamarain, if you can see This syncs up amazingly with your avatar
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Feb 15, 2017 17:15
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As much as I enjoy DS9, there is a lot of forgettable filler (especially if you don't generally care for the Ferengi episodes) because the writers had a habit of writing several almost indistinguishable episodes for certain characters. I defy you to say that any of the Dax symbiont related episodes are really worth watching.
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Feb 15, 2017 17:34
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King Hong Kong posted:As much as I enjoy DS9, there is a lot of forgettable filler (especially if you don't generally care for the Ferengi episodes) because the writers had a habit of writing several almost indistinguishable episodes for certain characters. I defy you to say that any of the Dax symbiont related episodes are really worth watching. Blood Oath is totally worth watching. The one where she meets her previous host's wife's symbiote is kind of cool since they create the same artificial wormholes that Barclay uses to communicate with Voyager.... but that's about it.
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Feb 15, 2017 17:43
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Yeah I'll bet they created some wormholes alright.
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MrJacobs posted:Blood Oath is totally worth watching. The one where she meets her previous host's wife's symbiote is kind of cool since they create the same artificial wormholes that Barclay uses to communicate with Voyager.... but that's about it. Just the episode "Dax" is alright just because Trek courtroom episodes are always good, even it is basically a ripoff of Measure of Man.
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Feb 15, 2017 18:10
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King Hong Kong posted:I defy you to say that any of the Dax symbiont related episodes are really worth watching. That one with her former host's wife is a huge landmark in queer TV history.
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Feb 15, 2017 18:50
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showbiz_liz posted:That one with her former host's wife is a huge landmark in queer TV history. You are right and it does give Farrell a chance to emote a little more than usual. There's kind of a sad tension throughout that one you don't usually get in a Star Trek.
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Feb 15, 2017 19:00
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The other sent away shapeshifter odo meets in season 7 is a real poo poo. that guys a real jerk
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Feb 15, 2017 19:01
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showbiz_liz posted:That one with her former host's wife is a huge landmark in queer TV history. That's a fair point. I'm still not sure that I genuinely enjoy that episode but it probably comes closest to working because the drama feels more real than contrived legal drama or "guy wants to steal the symbiont" plot or "we really wish we had Curzon on this show instead."
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Feb 15, 2017 19:10
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dangerdoom volvo posted:The other sent away shapeshifter odo meets in season 7 is a real poo poo. that guys a real jerk Odo gave him that shifting disease and he probably died alone, so happy ending I guess.
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Feb 15, 2017 19:13
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showbiz_liz posted:That one with her former host's wife is a huge landmark in queer TV history. Buffy did it first . 
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Feb 15, 2017 19:18
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Odo's like the only shape shifter that didn't become a massive racist rear end in a top hat. I wonder how much of the whole "we're oppressed and hated by solids everywhere we go!" basis of their culture and militarism is their own drat fault. "These racist solids chased me out of their village! They are so fearful and close minded. All I did was sneak into their village, become a cloud of toxic gas that killed their livestock, then turned into a physical representation of their most feared demon and might have killed a couple of their young because they threw rocks at me but they only died because their idiotic bodies were so fragile and limited. It was all a prank, guys, so close minded and hateful. Guess I'll just have to genocide/enslave these people so their kids never throw rocks at us again"
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Feb 15, 2017 19:19
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That's sorta on purpose. The thing about the shapeshifters is that their persecution is in the ancient past and they believe preemptively genociding and/or enslaving everyone else is the only way to keep it from happening again.
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Feb 15, 2017 19:21
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The founders are "it's just a prank bro" as a whole species.
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Feb 15, 2017 19:23
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willie_dee posted:I'm currently watching Voyager with an episode guide saying which episodes are worth watching and which aren't, I did the same with TNG and DS9, and with all the dross cut, Voyager is way better than DS9. Well, if you cut out all of the bad episodes of Voyager there's like a solid British TV season's worth of good episodes. If you only watched the best episodes of DS9 I'd be hard pressed to keep it under 30 episodes.
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Feb 15, 2017 19:25
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Yeah I might be remembering wrong but at some point I think someone was telling odo an ancient story of changelings being oppressed and chased out of a village by evil solids. And odo's reaction was obviously "Well maybe they did something to the villagers?" and the changeling was all "OF COURSE NOT IT'S JUST BECAUSE ALL SOLIDS HATE US FOR NO REASON!!" and I think that was a pretty strong hint that the changelings probably had it coming, or at least are so uncritical of their own past and their racism they are unable to even consider they were anything other than totally innocent victims.
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Feb 15, 2017 19:26
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WampaLord posted:Buffy did it first . Buffy did it in 2001, DS9 did it in 1995
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Feb 15, 2017 19:27
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showbiz_liz posted:Buffy did it in 2001, DS9 did it in 1995 I stand corrected!
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I watched voyager when I was a kid so I did not have the capacity to tell what episodes were good or not, I enjoyed them all pretty equally. But I still knew that ds9 was the best
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