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Lamuella posted:Weirdly in his case I think it helps him that he was only ever a big star in wrestling rather than a megastar. I know a lot of people who love Dave Bautista and neither know nor care anything about wrestling, who might have been put off by him if he was just The Wrestling Guy. Yeah, that sounds right. Cena has started having some mainstream acting success but I suspect he was held back a little at first by being so strongly associated with WWE.
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BGrifter posted:Yeah, that sounds right. Cena has started having some mainstream acting success but I suspect he was held back a little at first by being so strongly associated with WWE. And in both cases having James Gunn in their corner to let them successfully be really funny has helped.
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BGrifter posted:Yeah, that sounds right. Cena has started having some mainstream acting success but I suspect he was held back a little at first by being so strongly associated with WWE. Cena did the same thing as The Rock to achieve his Hollywood success: step back from action heroics and do a bunch of weird supporting character parts to show off his range. Dude was the best part about Sisters.
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the fact that The Rock played a gay cowboy singer/actor in an Elmore Leonard film with John Travolta and Uma Thurman is always going to weird me out. He does a cover of "You Ain't Woman Enough To Steal My Man".
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Shankel Magnus posted:So despite all these releases...Lacey Evans is still employed. Lol they're never firing her
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BGrifter posted:It’s kinda crazy that Batista ended up being a bigger star outside of wrestling than Stone Cold Steve Austin. I don't think this is the case. I'd argue the expendables is comparable to guardians, and Stone Cold has plenty of Stubers in his filmography. I don't see Batista with multiple cable TV shows in syndication, on commercials selling me tide pods with Ice-T.
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beggar posted:I'd argue the expendables is comparable to guardians 
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The Guardians films have made billions and people can't wait for the next one. I honestly had forgotten the Expendables existed until that post.
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beggar posted:I don't think this is the case. I'd argue the expendables is comparable to guardians, and Stone Cold has plenty of Stubers in his filmography. I don't see Batista with multiple cable TV shows in syndication, on commercials selling me tide pods with Ice-T. Guardians Of The Galaxy by itself had a comparable box office to the entire Expendables trilogy. And that's the highest profile project Austin has done as an actor. While Stone Cold has plenty of Stubers in his filmography he doesn't have a Dune. (and honestly he doesn't have that many Stubers either. Pretty much every Austin vehicle where he's had a leading role has been straight to video) Lamuella fucked around with this message at 13:13 on Apr 16, 2021 |
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beggar posted:I don't think this is the case. I'd argue the expendables is comparable to guardians, and Stone Cold has plenty of Stubers in his filmography. I don't see Batista with multiple cable TV shows in syndication, on commercials selling me tide pods with Ice-T. I feel like you’re underselling just how huge the Marvel franchise is. Bit of an apples to oranges comparison, but Guardians 2 did 863.8 million at the box office. The Expendables 2 did 315 million. Marvel stuff is on another level right now. Avengers: Endgame did an insane 2.798 billion dollars box office. Austin is certainly busy and has lots of reality TV shows like the Broken Skull Challenge and things. But Vanilla Ice had a dozen of those shows. Not begrudging Austin his success. But I think it’s fair to say Batista is a step above purely on the back of the Marvel juggernaut. (Not that Juggernaut)
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Apr 16, 2021 13:14
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The second GOTG made more money than the entire Expendables franchise combined
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Chris James 2 posted:The second GOTG made more money than the entire Expendables franchise combined
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Lamuella posted:Guardians Of The Galaxy by itself had a comparable box office to the entire Expendables trilogy. And that's the highest profile project Austin has done as an actor. While Stone Cold has plenty of Stubers in his filmography he doesn't have a Dune. Leaving box offoce asside, Batista has some bona fide blockbusters and cult hits under his belt and is quite frequently the best part in them. Like, Man with the Iron Fists is a silly, silly movie and Batista is absolutely great in it and manages to outshine a fat, drunken, horny Russel Crowe whose character is called "Jack Knife".
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It's always seemed to me like Stone Cold is happy mostly just doing ranch stuff at his ranch and occasionally doing projects that he's interested in. I'm sure he could've leveraged his insane mainstream popularity in the Attitude era to still be a relevant star today but it seems that he just kinda... never did. Maybe he just wasn't interested. He probably wouldn't have to work another day in his life if he decided not to.
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Expendables - $274M worldwide (Austin 7th billed) Expendables 2 + 3 - Austin wasn't in them Guardians of the Galaxy - $773M worldwide (Batista 3rd billed) Guardians of the Galaxy 2 - $864M worldwide (Batista 3rd billed) Films featuring Steve Austin: The Longest Yard, The Condemned, Damage, The Expendables, The Stranger, Hunt to Kill, Recoil, Born to Fight, Tactical Force, Maximum Conviction, The Package, Grown Ups 2, Smosh: The Movie, Chain of Command Forthcoming: The Walk Ons. Films featuring Dave Bautista: House of the Rising Son, Scorpion King 3, The Man with the Iron Fists, Riddick, Guardians of the Galaxy, Spectre, Heist, Marauders, Kickboxer: Vengeance, Bushwick, Guardians of the Galaxy 2, Blade Runner 2049, Hotel Artemis, Escape Plan 2, Final Score, Master Z: The Ip Man Legacy, Stuber, Avengers: Infinity War, Avengers: Endgame, Escape Plan: The Extractors, My Spy. Forthcoming: Army of the Dead, Dune, Guardians of the Galaxy 3. Italics = Direct to Video Steve Austin is still a bigger name/cultural figure than Batista in a lot of aspects (i.e. appearing in a commercial with Mister T), but saying he's a bigger movie star than Batista (or even comparable) is like arguing that everyone knows who Mr. T is and he's doing a commercial, therefore his acting career is as good/better than Keith David or Don Johnson, who weren't in that ad and also were stars in the mid 1980s.
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I'd also like to leave box office aside and say Batista's films are simply better films than Austin's GOTG over Expendables, Blade Runner 2049 over The Condemned, Stuber over The Longest Yard
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Chris James 2 posted:Blade Runner 2049 over The Condemned mods!???!?
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beggar posted:I'd argue the expendables is comparable to guardians Everyone has already justifiably roasted you for this but holy poo poo lmao 
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If we want to get really crazy for a moment, does The Rock have any hits on the level of peak Marvel stuff like Guardians 2 or Avengers Endgame? I mean, it’s a total apples to oranges comparison. The Rock is a much bigger movie star and tends to be the lead in a way Batista is not in the Marvel stuff. But it’s insane how big Marvel has become. I’m kinda sick of it by now, but those movies do huge business. I’m not sure the later Fast and the Furious films compare.
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BGrifter posted:If we want to get really crazy for a moment, does The Rock have any hits on the level of peak Marvel stuff like Guardians 2 or Avengers Endgame? The fast and furious films absolutely compare
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Quantum of Phallus posted:The fast and furious films absolutely compare A quick google search tells me Fast 7 did 1.516 billion USD in box office. So bigger than Guardians but way short of Avengers Endgame.
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^^^ Everything is a lot of short of Avengers Endgame The Fast franchise only became a commercial hit when the Rock joined and the last two films both made over a billion and are in the top 20 highest grossing movies of all time
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Bautista is a relatively tiny part of the MCU compared to The Rock’s role in FF
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BGrifter posted:A quick google search tells me Fast 7 did 1.516 billion USD in box office. So bigger than Guardians but way short of Avengers Endgame. Yeah but like endgame is what, the #1 box office ever??
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Also the Rock is the highest paid actor in Hollywood and there's a reason for that
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jesus WEP posted:Bautista is a relatively tiny part of the MCU compared to The Rock’s role in FF Absolutely fair and in no way am I trying to imply Batista is a bigger movie star than The Rock. That would be utterly barking mad. But Avengers Endgame is one of the biggest box office successes of all time.
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Quantum of Phallus posted:Yeah but like endgame is what, the #1 box office ever?? It was but then Avatar did a limited rerelease in cinemas to push it back up to #1
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BGrifter posted:If we want to get really crazy for a moment, does The Rock have any hits on the level of peak Marvel stuff like Guardians 2 or Avengers Endgame? Moana might be in the ballpark (against Guardians, not Endgame). I think it took in close to 700M and that's before you factor in the Disney merch machine.
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flashy_mcflash posted:Moana might be in the ballpark (against Guardians, not Endgame). I think it took in close to 700M and that's before you factor in the Disney merch machine. Kids movies often tend to be sneaky huge. The Jumanji movies are probably right up there too.
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Rarity posted:It was but then Avatar did a limited rerelease in cinemas to push it back up to #1
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Rarity posted:It was but then Avatar did a limited rerelease in cinemas to push it back up to #1 Jim always has to get his win back smdh
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I was curious and holy poo poo Jumanji did 962.2 million box office. That’s wild. That alone is bigger than Guardians 2 and Fast 7 almost doubles it. Avengers Endgame is just such a crazy outlier it’s tough for anything to stack up. Maybe they could edit The Rock into Avatar or something. 
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Movies with Over a Billion Dollars in Box Office Worldwide Starring Pro Wrestlers #2: Avengers Endgame ($2.8B, Batista) #5: Avengers Infinity War ($2.1B, Batista) #9: Furious 7 ($1.5B, The Rock) #19: Fate of the Furious ($1.2B, The Rock) #48: The Dark Knight ($1B, Zeus/Z-Gangsta)
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Apr 16, 2021 13:41
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Edge & Christian posted:#48: The Dark Knight ($1B, Zeus/Z-Gangsta) 
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Apr 16, 2021 13:42
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SD commentary team going forward is Michael Cole and Pat McAfee
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Apr 16, 2021 13:42
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I wonder how long he’ll tolerate Vince screaming in his ear
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southland tales is better than anything big dave has done
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I feel like that will lead to an Aaron Rodgers appearance on Smackdown which will make me watch WWE. 
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yea ok posted:southland tales is better than anything big dave has done Using Southland Tales as a measuring stick for film quality is the same thing as using Endgame as a measuring stick for box office success. It’s just never going to be a fair comparison
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