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Dial-a-Dog
May 22, 2001
I think he is, and he's just stuck in a broke brained idiot PUA mindset, but regardless the girl should've blocked him on Facebook and told him to gently caress off after that "you used to be hot" nonsense

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Play
Apr 25, 2006

Strong stroll for a mangy stray

Dial-a-Dog posted:

I think he is, and he's just stuck in a broke brained idiot PUA mindset, but regardless the girl should've blocked him on Facebook and told him to gently caress off after that "you used to be hot" nonsense

Yeah, it seems like she's had the unique privilege to remain unaware of horrible PUA "techniques". She ascribes it to him being "blunt" and "speaking his mind." Which could conceivably not be bad traits assuming the things on your mind aren't pointless self-esteem destroying insults. I'm not sure which is more sad, someone who does that naturally or someone who's trained themselves to degrade others.

Hopefully the comments section pointed out the commonalities between what he does and PUA bullshit. I'm guessing a light bulb will go on and the entirety of their sorry relationship will suddenly be revealed for the sad, sad thing it is.

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


Pick posted:

Negging is really goddamn dumb and when it works, it only works on people with such low self-esteem they'd have slept with you anyway.

Well, yeah. Every aspect of PUA is about tricking socially crippled men into actually going out and meeting women, and arming them with techniques to rapidly find the ones with accessibly low self-esteem.

Play
Apr 25, 2006

Strong stroll for a mangy stray

Doc Hawkins posted:

Well, yeah. Every aspect of PUA is about tricking socially crippled men into actually going out and meeting women, and arming them with techniques to rapidly find the ones with accessibly low self-esteem.

What I've always found funny is that I can see the idea behind the technique, but (beyond being repulsive, obviously) it really stands out as juvenile and desperate to most normal human beings. Aggressively saying insulting things is like the elementary school version of aggressively praising the target of your affection.

The exact effect they are hoping to achieve can be done by simply treating girls as human beings rather than beasts to be tricked, hunted down, and mounted. Being friendly with a person yet not so obviously goddamn thirsty will intrigue them in a way that doesn't involved the dismantling of someone's self-esteem.

I know this is a way low-hanging fruit but I have seen people in bars and clubs attempt to use these techniques and it is not only pathetic but immediately identifiable by most everyone. I personally have never seen a girl (or boy, I suppose) fall for it. Even if it appears to work that probably wasn't the factor that did it, as I don't know anyone who is turned on by emotional degradation (personally that is, no kinkshaming here)

Play fucked around with this message at 07:01 on Dec 31, 2016

Nuebot
Feb 18, 2013

The developer of Brigador is a secret chud, don't give him money

Doc Hawkins posted:

Well, yeah. Every aspect of PUA is about tricking socially crippled men into actually going out and meeting women, and arming them with techniques to rapidly find the ones with accessibly low self-esteem.

The "best" part is that it isn't even actually effective. They'll talk themselves up about how many women they sleep with, but they literally just try every person in the room until they find the one that can be insulted into sex. Of course if you throw enough darts at the board eventually some will hit. That doesn't mean you're good at darts.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

Nuebot posted:

The "best" part is that it isn't even actually effective. They'll talk themselves up about how many women they sleep with, but they literally just try every person in the room until they find the one that can be insulted into sex. Of course if you throw enough darts at the board eventually some will hit. That doesn't mean you're good at darts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAYBET6rmFo

ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
Pick a number, any number
Pillbug
Pua stuff is marketable because it does work on some vulnerable people. Sure that's gross and sure it doesn't result in healthy relationships but it's been around for literally decades and people wouldn't stay interested in it if it never worked. The sad reality is some people are drawn to abusive relationships and pua stuff exploits this.

Scudworth
Jan 1, 2005

When life gives you lemons, you clone those lemons, and make super lemons.

Dinosaur Gum
This is from the anon e/n thread but it belongs here.
Happy New Year.

quote:


Can you help me find ways to deal with favoritism and repair my familiy?

I have a 'favorite' kid. I have two sons, five and two. The five year old is my adoptive son, my wife is his biological mother. I met my wife when he was a little over a year old. I didn't know poo poo about parenting, but I loved this woman and I believed in adoption (I'd rather give a kid who doesn't have a Dad a good Dad than make a whole extra kid). I did my best and believed I was doing pretty good learning-to-parent on the fly . We were married shortly after his second birthday.

But while I believe in adoption, I felt a stronger emotional bond with our 2yr old. And this came about due to a shitstorm of events that occurred when my wife was 7mo pregnant with him. It was an exceptionally hard pregnancy involving a few hospitalizations. During one of these I overheard my wife telling the doctor this was the second time she had given birth, and this confused me because of something I haven't yet explained.

When I learned that my then-girlfriend had a child she was in care of, she explained it that biologically he was her nephew, and her way younger half-brother (who i've never met and isn't in our lives) had knocked up some chick and they weren't able to take care of him so she took him in as her own. I thought this was very sweet and it played a big role in seeing that she was a really good person, someone I'd want to be married to. We married and she got pregnant with our now 2yr old while I was under this presumption. When she told the doctor that this was her second birth I was like "uuh what?" and then she proceeded to explain that he wasn't in fact her biological nephew, but in fact her own, his biological dad was a sadistic manipulative bad person. I won't get into the details of what she said but to put it short, she had to escape this crazy guy shortly after he was born and fabricated this newphew story in the interest of protecting herself and her son, for fear that I might have been sent by him to track her down or something.

Well I didn't handle that the best. I can understand fabricating the story but I feel like she still should have said something before we got married and transitioned from referring to me as "Mr. anon" to "Dad" in front of our son, and even moreso before we started to add another child. And to mix in with this clusterfuck period of my life, another thing I learned from her conversations with her doctor while i was present that it wasn't me that brought genital herpes into our relationship like she had led me to believe, but rather the other way around(she told the doctor how long she had it, longer than we had been together). So basically she was 7mo pregnant and I was really pissed feeling like I had completely been taking for a ride.

Anyway its in the past, I've forgiven her for it, life goes on. She is still an amazing woman that I am obscenely lucky to be with! But for a large part I was way harder on my oldest son than our now 2yr old. I'd get mad when he'd make a mess or misbehave or whatever. Kids are kids and I've worked on changing my strategy for dealing with conflict from "get mad and yell and be distant" to "calm down and clean up the mess, jesus christ we have food and a roof over our heads whats the big deal, he is a child. Let's just go sit down in the other room and talk about this for a minute and get on with our day".

To be clear, I wasn't beating him or anything. But I was using abusive language and witholding parental affection (something my Dad did to me and my brother). The whole situation brought out the absolute worst in my parenting.

My wife has resented me a lot for this behavior - and understandably so. I started out strong as a "yeah I can totally do this parenting thing, our kid is awesome" to "ugh i can't stand dealing with this child on top of this newborn". I'd be pissed too. I get it and I'm very understanding when she's upset about this kind of stuff and I recognize that it's going to take a lot of time to repair this wound. What I'm asking for, e/n, is strategies to undo favoritism and strategies for communicating with my wife what I'm doing to improve the situation.

On top of that, my wife refuses to go through with the official adoption paperwork for him so I can legally be his father. This is a big deal for me and its only going to become a worse problem. He's currently being taught in pre-k to use my last name even though his legal name hasn't yet changed. We absolutely need to move past this ideally before he starts public school next fall.

On top of _that_, we have a 3rd child due in 5 months. Since I'm dumping I'll dump this out too. After 2yr old was born, I was so seething mad that I got a vasectomy. My wife went along with it but she wasn't really happy about it. Turns out she wanted a girl really bad (and hey our third is girl! Yay!). We looked into adoption/foster care but ended up doing IVF and here we are. I think I'm much better hardened for this but I'm still nervous about it because pregnancy/newborns are always a big emotional challenge.

I'm trying my best to balance all this stuff while also holding down my job as the sole breadwinner. I recognize that I'm entirely responsible for the situation, I should have been a better man handling when this baggage arrived. I'm just asking for advice.

whew. thanks. i feel a lot better having typed all that out.

Waterbed Wendy
Jan 29, 2009
It's a pretty huge deal not to tell someone you are about to commit to for the rest of your life that your nephew is actually your child. I wouldn't know if I could trust that person ever again.

Welp good luck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
Pick a number, any number
Pillbug

Waterbed Wendy posted:

It's a pretty huge deal not to tell someone you are about to commit to for the rest of your life that your nephew is actually your child. I wouldn't know if I could trust that person ever again.

Welp good luck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

also it turns out that permanent std I blamed on you was in fact from me all along hahaha

anti-magic
Sep 9, 2012

We've come up in the ram-raiding business, Owl.
It's all high class now.
No more baby seats.

Waterbed Wendy posted:

It's a pretty huge deal not to tell someone you are about to commit to for the rest of your life that your nephew is actually your child. I wouldn't know if I could trust that person ever again.

Welp good luck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good thing they've already got a new baby on the way. Maybe they should open the relationship up as well?

Automatonic Water
Jul 8, 2012

dig thru the ditches
and burn thru the witches
and slam in the back of my.........
.........DRAGULA


Yams Fan
Those kids are gonna turn out so hosed up

Pivotal Lever
Sep 9, 2003

quote:

she proceeded to explain that he wasn't in fact her biological nephew, but in fact her own [child], and his biological dad she was is a sadistic manipulative bad person.

webmeister
Jan 31, 2007

The answer is, mate, because I want to do you slowly. There has to be a bit of sport in this for all of us. In the psychological battle stakes, we are stripped down and ready to go. I want to see those ashen-faced performances; I want more of them. I want to be encouraged. I want to see you squirm.
Two kids is really hard. Let's have a third :downs:

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014



this is pretty accurate. it's how dating apps work.

the dad porn one is kinda funny in a sad way to me cuz someone at work is a old hardcore republican (to the point he was a republican elector) and was pumped trump won but when you go his comp it's all cuck porn (like big black dudes slamming white women).

Griefor
Jun 11, 2009

Groovelord Neato posted:

this is pretty accurate. it's how dating apps work.

the dad porn one is kinda funny in a sad way to me cuz someone at work is a old hardcore republican (to the point he was a republican elector) and was pumped trump won but when you go his comp it's all cuck porn (like big black dudes slamming white women).

Wait, so this guy not only has a porn stash on his work pc, but doesn't even hide it from his coworkers?

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all

Griefor posted:

Wait, so this guy not only has a porn stash on his work pc, but doesn't even hide it from his coworkers?

Computer janitors could blackmail so many people.

Gaunab
Feb 13, 2012
LUFTHANSA YOU FUCKING DICKWEASEL

quote:

My[25m] gf[22F] racist family doing everything to keep us apart.

We have been dating for about 6 months but have been friends for 3+ years. She lives about 8 hours away but is moving up to me because of a job opportunity. This is all fine except, she has a daughter [1yr]. Now I love this kid. Like this kid is so amazing and I honestly want the best for both of them.

The issue is, my gf's "mother" (they do not get along and she was not really apart of my gf's life) is upset because she is moving her only grand-daughter 8 hours away. She is also upset because I am black. She even went as far as messaging me on fb telling me that she disapproves because the grandfather is racist as well and will disown my gf once he finds out she is dating me and moving up here.

I have pretty thick skin so this didn't bother me as long as I knew my gf was OK, which she was. She told me that it's best for her baby to be up here with a stable job and in a stable household.

Fast forward to today and my girl tells me that her "mother" called cps on her stating that she was on drugs and they took her daughter until the investigation was over. A few days ago, Her "mother" and husband saw her in public a few and began yelling at her calling her a n*gger lover.

I am shocked and heart broken. How can someone be so against another person's happiness because of the color of the SO's skin? You are willing to drag your own daughter through the mud for your selfish motives?

My girlfriend took a drug test today and what do you know, it comes back negative..

What can we do to keep her mother from pulling this again? We are both shocked. I asked my gf if she wanted to end our relationship because her mom is insane. My gf said she does not and will not over anything with her family.

Tl;Dr Gf's mom was a poo poo mom to her but is now applying for grandmother of the year by calling cps on her Daughter to keep her from moving 8 hours away and because I am a black man...

Update:

CPS called the baby's father and now he is calling my gf. But the dad is actually on drugs. And up until now has been absent in the kids life.

She is pressing charges on the mom. Not sure how that is going to work but I'm behind her 100%..

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
Does r/sex count because this seems like a future candidate for relationships as well:

quote:

[Bisexual] Wife encouraging me to have Bi experience with good friend after she started pegging me. Not sure. (self.sex)
Friend broke up with his girlfriend about 6 months ago and is over at our place A lot. Wife feels sorry for him. He's too busy to have a relationship.
So last weekend he's over hanging out, we are all drinking watching a movie and theirs a pretty hot lesbian sex scene in it and my wife makes a comment about guys being turned on watching two women and says that lots of women get off watching two men.
My friend kinda surprises me and says nothing wrong with that.
So my wife is Horney and tells me she wants to go to bed and tells my friend he can sleep on the couch because we've all been drinking.
A few minutes later she is pounding me in the rear end with a Strapon. I'm worried my friend can hear us and she whispers too me that she is fantasizing she is watching my friend gently caress me and asks me if I would let him gently caress me while she watches. I tell her I don't think he would be into that and says, but if he was, would you do that for me? You let me gently caress you and he's your best friend. If I'm OK with it, and he wanted too? It turns me on so much thinking about. Please say yes. I mumbled, I guess, because I knew it was what she wanted to hear and because I figured my friend would never have any interest in doing it.
So last night my friend is over and we are talking about the long weekend and how much fun we are going to have grilling and drinking. I am cleaning the grill outside and decided to take a shower when we get back in and leave my wife and friend taking.
Later last night my wife says, I talked with your friend and he said he's down with loving you while I watch. He asked me how I knew you would be into that and I told him I had asked you.
I was shocked but I had kind of told her i would. My wife then said you know it's hard for him. He's over all the time and you know he lays the couch listening to us loving on the other side of the wall and he has no one. I thought you might want to help him out and let him gently caress you and suck him off sometimes. I mean, it's not like you don't suck my strapon and lick your own cum off me.
She asked me if I still wanted to do it. I'm not sure what to say. I just told her we'll see how it goes this weekend.
I'm kinda worried that my friend might loose respect for me.
I can't imagine what's gong through his head.
I still can't believe he's willing to do it.
I can't believe I'm thinking about doing it.
So should I do it?
(emphasis mine, everything else as posted)

So this guy is gonna let his best friend gently caress him in the rear end to satisfy his wife's kink apparently. There's no indication that anyone other than perhaps the friend is bi so I'm sure it'll work out great for everyone!

Ratjaculation
Aug 3, 2007

:parrot::parrot::parrot:




Holy smokes.

Press charges, get restraining order and sever from poo poo family

Ratjaculation
Aug 3, 2007

:parrot::parrot::parrot:



mobby_6kl posted:

Does r/sex count because this seems like a future candidate for relationships as well:

(emphasis mine, everything else as posted)

So this guy is gonna let his best friend gently caress him in the rear end to satisfy his wife's kink apparently. There's no indication that anyone other than perhaps the friend is bi so I'm sure it'll work out great for everyone!

HNY celebrations have really changed

Mocking Bird
Aug 17, 2011
CPS (with some exceptions for terrible mismanagement) doesn't detain children into foster care without reasonable suspicion of abuse or neglect combined with imminent risk of reoccurrence. A judge has to approve it, as well. We don't use foster care during investigations the way it's being framed, though parents who have their kids taken tell their families that all the time.

That dude should consider what about his girlfriend has CPS seriously worried she's a drug addict to the point she is neglecting her child.

Signed, a CPS social worker.

tactlessbastard
Feb 4, 2001

Godspeed, post
Fun Shoe

Ratjaculation posted:

Holy smokes.

Press charges, get restraining order and sever from poo poo family

wife kinky so what

toiletbrush
May 17, 2010

Play posted:

I know this is a way low-hanging fruit but I have seen people in bars and clubs attempt to use these techniques and it is not only pathetic but immediately identifiable by most everyone. I personally have never seen a girl (or boy, I suppose) fall for it.
Maybe these days, but back when I was at uni ~15 years ago I had a friend who was crazy into PUA stuff. He was fairly good looking, but only about 5'6". It was 50/50 depressing/hilarious how you could point to pretty much any girl in a bar and he'd calmly walk up and do his routine - always the same body language, same exagerated brushing his hair, same stories, same jokes, same 'negs', loving identical every time - and nine times out of ten he'd get at least a phone number.

On the upside, it was amazing how quickly girls would lose interest once he thought he'd won them over and started being himself.

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


toiletbrush posted:

Maybe these days, but back when I was at uni ~15 years ago I had a friend who was crazy into PUA stuff. He was fairly good looking, but only about 5'6". It was 50/50 depressing/hilarious how you could point to pretty much any girl in a bar and he'd calmly walk up and do his routine - always the same body language, same exagerated brushing his hair, same stories, same jokes, same 'negs', loving identical every time - and nine times out of ten he'd get at least a phone number.

On the upside, it was amazing how quickly girls would lose interest once he thought he'd won them over and started being himself.

People being interested in a good looking member of the opposite gender isn't exactly surprising

a misanthrope
Jun 21, 2010

:burgerpug::burgerpug::burgerpug::burgerpug::burgerpug:
what is this thread about

why is it 315 pages

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


A misanthrope posted:

what is this thread about

why is it 315 pages



It's about whether Celcius or Fahrenheit is the better temperature unit and Pick's social life.

Ratjaculation
Aug 3, 2007

:parrot::parrot::parrot:



Its a guide on open relationships

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

R/relationships: Respectfully listening to stories

a misanthrope
Jun 21, 2010

:burgerpug::burgerpug::burgerpug::burgerpug::burgerpug:

Professor Shark posted:

R/relationships: Respectfully listening to stories

one time i dated a girl who cheated on me with scott weiland. she told me he had yellow cum.

that's my only good relationship story thnk you for listening.

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all

mobby_6kl posted:

Does r/sex count because this seems like a future candidate for relationships as well:

(emphasis mine, everything else as posted)

So this guy is gonna let his best friend gently caress him in the rear end to satisfy his wife's kink apparently. There's no indication that anyone other than perhaps the friend is bi so I'm sure it'll work out great for everyone!

Today I learned horny is a proper noun and is actually spelled "Horney"

E: also, "nothing wrong with that," does not translate to "pound me hard in the rear end, please." Or even, "Id like to ream your SO's b-hole, lol!"

Pvt.Scott fucked around with this message at 17:39 on Dec 31, 2016

Ratjaculation
Aug 3, 2007

:parrot::parrot::parrot:



[22/F] My bf [23/M] of 4 months wants us to go out for New Years. I wanna stay home.

quote:

My bf was invited to his brothers for drinks and gaming tonight and he wants me to go to. I've only met his brother a few times at the mall and I've never met his brothers roommates or friends. He lives outside oftown and the buses shut down early tonight so we'd have to sleep over.

I told my bf he can go to his brothers tonight and I'm perfectly fine staying home alone and watching Netflix. I don't drink at all so I wouldn't be much fun and I'm uncomfortable hanging around drunk people (childhood trauma ftw), I'm also very uncomfortable around large groups or people I don't know and I'm ESPECIALLY uncomfortable sleeping at other people's apartments.

He keeps insisting I go because he wants me to meet his friends and have a good time, and while I want to meet his friends I really don't wanna meet 6-9 of them at once in a strange house I've never been to.

I reeeeeaaaally don't wanna go but I also don't wanna hurt his feelings.

Am I being a bad girlfriend? Should I suck it up and go? Is there a compromise?

Tldr: bf wants me to go drinking with his brother and his friends, I have horrible social anxiety and I dont drink so I told him to go without me but he keeps insisting I go. What do I do?
Yeah the bf is a dick but I mean really, can these sadsacks do anything without getting an opinion from reddit?


Bonus:

Does this [19F] like me [19M]?

quote:

I was hanging with this girl once and she wanted to take a picture with me. I said I didn't want to because I'm ugly (I guess I have pretty low self esteem). Anyway, she said I was slightly higher than average attractiveness and that my personality made me even more attractive. Another time one of my friends said I have a beautiful smile and she agreed. And I was texting her yesterday and she said I was so cute when I was a kid (she'd been looking at pictures on my Facebook) and I said I must've gotten uglier as I got older and she was like no, you're good looking now. She's also been liking a lot of my posts on Facebook. I can't tell if she's just being nice or if she's actually interested

tl;dr: Does she like me?

lmbo

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


toiletbrush posted:

Maybe these days, but back when I was at uni ~15 years ago I had a friend who was crazy into PUA stuff. He was fairly good looking, but only about 5'6". It was 50/50 depressing/hilarious how you could point to pretty much any girl in a bar and he'd calmly walk up and do his routine - always the same body language, same exagerated brushing his hair, same stories, same jokes, same 'negs', loving identical every time - and nine times out of ten he'd get at least a phone number.

On the upside, it was amazing how quickly girls would lose interest once he thought he'd won them over and started being himself.

like eazy e said, college girls are easy (peeps are dumb as gently caress about who the gently caress until at least their mid 20s and if this thread is anything to go by some never smarten up)


this poor guy.

Giraffe
Dec 12, 2005

Soiled Meat
r/relationships: so my wife is Horney

FUCKFACE MORON
Apr 23, 2010

by sebmojo
I'm dumber than poo poo. help me reddit!

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all

go go go go ROSCOE! posted:

I'm dumber than poo poo. help me reddit!

Have you considered compersion or CBT? Not cognitive behavioral therapy, that's voodoo, I mean the real therapeutic stuff, cock & ball torture.

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

A misanthrope posted:

one time i dated a girl who cheated on me with scott weiland. she told me he had yellow cum.

that's my only good relationship story thnk you for listening.

Yikes, I hope you got tested

54 40 or fuck
Jan 4, 2012

No Yanda's allowed

Mocking Bird posted:

CPS (with some exceptions for terrible mismanagement) doesn't detain children into foster care without reasonable suspicion of abuse or neglect combined with imminent risk of reoccurrence. A judge has to approve it, as well. We don't use foster care during investigations the way it's being framed, though parents who have their kids taken tell their families that all the time.

That dude should consider what about his girlfriend has CPS seriously worried she's a drug addict to the point she is neglecting her child.

Signed, a CPS social worker.

Yep, apprehension is last last last resort and usually it has to be preeeetty bad for CPS to walk in and take the kids over allegations. Double edged sword because on one hand it stops a lot of poo poo happening to people who don't deserve it (since people absolutely do put in complaints out of spite/trying to sabotage) and on the other sometimes it means kids are in horrible situations for longer.

SpiderHyphenMan
Apr 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

mobby_6kl posted:

Does r/sex count because this seems like a future candidate for relationships as well:

(emphasis mine, everything else as posted)

So this guy is gonna let his best friend gently caress him in the rear end to satisfy his wife's kink apparently. There's no indication that anyone other than perhaps the friend is bi so I'm sure it'll work out great for everyone!
Oh come on, this was obviously typed with one hand.

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a misanthrope
Jun 21, 2010

:burgerpug::burgerpug::burgerpug::burgerpug::burgerpug:

Professor Shark posted:

Yikes, I hope you got tested

i didnt gently caress her after he hosed her, thank god. he hosed courtney love! my dick woulda turned green and i would have melted like the nazis in Raiders

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