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It's weird readong a Tezzor post because you get a glimpse into the brain of someone without any reading comprehension.
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euphronius posted:I'll think you'll find be is surrounded by fan girls and yes women as well, sexist. Yeah, this is a fair point. Looking at the Clone Wars series, most of the Asajj Ventress episodes were written by his adoptive daughter Katie. Man, did that kid win the lottery on making your deviantart character canon or what
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Feb 1, 2016 19:07
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He seems to be upset that a man whose business is entertainment media tried to make entertainment media.
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Feb 1, 2016 19:07
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Corek posted:Post the loving steampunk wedding pictures Tezzor Oh poo poo, can it be...
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Feb 1, 2016 19:08
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Tezzor posted:George Lucas is in fact a severely overrated hack and a soulless toy-hocking businessman surrounded by useless fanboys and yes-men, which is a relevant consideration when considering the likelihood of the apologetic headcanons of pretentious halfwits as to why he's actually a brilliant intellect operating on a higher level than we see. I did not think this was all that complicated You seem really mad about people thinking some movies are good.
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Feb 1, 2016 19:09
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Tezzor posted:Those skits are made by third parties, short, and often funny. This pile of poo poo was made by the content creator, of extended length, and going by the sizzle reel is not even remotely funny. The first factor is actually the more relevant, because if a Mad TV sketch on Jurassic Park sucks, who cares? If Spielberg makes talking-dinosaurs Jurassic Park comedy cartoon, you've got to wonder what the gently caress he is thinking even if it isn't terrible. Disney comprehends this. Why don't you? I thought parts of the trailer were funny, but many parts not. I'm not the intended audience, though. In any case, if you were as enthusiastic about facts as you are about waving around your Lucasrage boner in every post, you'd have maybe seen that George Lucas has nothing to do with that series beyond telling people "go make this thing, and make it funny." He's not the producer, and he's definitely not one of the writers, whose job it is to make it funny. I mean, George Lucas made Howard the Duck. Steven Spielberg made 1941. Not everyone's every effort is successful, let alone the best thing they've done to date.
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Feb 1, 2016 19:10
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Oh poo poo, can it be... There's been rumors around GBS for years that Tezzor is Goatstein.
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Feb 1, 2016 19:11
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Raxivace posted:You seem really mad about people thinking some movies are good. I am actually rather annoyed at how stupid and baseless their arguments are and how they treat their blithering fan theories like the holy koran. Like, if you said: "I think the prequels are good because as someone with severe autism I cannot comprehend human emotions anyway and just like seeing colors and shapes on a screen" I think that would be a fair subjective argument. TimeCube theories about secret moral depth are not.
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Feb 1, 2016 19:12
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homullus posted:I mean, George Lucas made Howard the Duck. Steven Spielberg made 1941. Not everyone's every effort is successful, let alone the best thing they've done to date. Those are fun movies, though. 
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Feb 1, 2016 19:12
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Corek posted:Post the loving steampunk wedding pictures Tezzor 
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Feb 1, 2016 19:13
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Tezzor posted:I am actually rather annoyed at how stupid and baseless their arguments are and how they treat their blithering fan theories like the holy koran. Like, if you said: "I think the prequels are good because as someone with severe autism I cannot comprehend human emotions anyway and just like seeing colors and shapes on a screen" I think that would be a fair subjective argument. TimeCube theories about secret moral depth are not. Secret moral depth such as "slavery is bad"
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Feb 1, 2016 19:14
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Yorkshire Tea posted:I will defend the Vader comic to the death purely because of this: Those are pretty good, but even that second one is kind of ruined in context when you see he calls the Emperor and just says "I know what our relationship is" like he just found out his girlfriend is cheating on him or something.
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Feb 1, 2016 19:14
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homullus posted:I thought parts of the trailer were funny, but many parts not. I'm not the intended audience, though. In any case, if you were as enthusiastic about facts as you are about waving around your Lucasrage boner in every post, you'd have maybe seen that George Lucas has nothing to do with that series beyond telling people "go make this thing, and make it funny." He's not the producer, and he's definitely not one of the writers, whose job it is to make it funny. He created and financed it and gave the green light on it after seeing spec scripts and episodes and planned to release it on the unsuspecting public apparently thinking it was good until somebody objective and sane took a look at it and said "what the gently caress." I recognize he was not a writer of the "jokes."
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Feb 1, 2016 19:15
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Bongo Bill posted:Secret moral depth such as "slavery is bad" This is not a productive area of discussion because you seem incapable of realizing that what matters as to the quality of the movies is what's in the movies, not what exists many years later in literary shovelware, a cartoon for children, or your headcanon.
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Feb 1, 2016 19:17
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Tezzor posted:I am actually rather annoyed at how stupid and baseless their arguments are and how they treat their blithering fan theories like the holy koran. Like, if you said: "I think the prequels are good because as someone with severe autism I cannot comprehend human emotions anyway and just like seeing colors and shapes on a screen" I think that would be a fair subjective argument. TimeCube theories about secret moral depth are not. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yt3nDgnC7M8 A film by Stahn Brakhage, clearly only liked by people with autism that don't understand humans.
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Feb 1, 2016 19:17
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This reminds me ofSeanbaby posted:GTA V criticizes American culture with all the elegance of a grumpy pastor watching his first reality show. Missions have you acting as a paparazzo to catch a wholesome actress with a dong up her rear end, massacring hallucinations after too much marijuana, and terrorizing immigrants. Most media outlets praise the game for outrageously mocking every aspect of Los Angeles, but it mocks them without any understanding or tact. If you held a gun to the head of the most secluded Eskimo seal farmer and said, "List California stereotypes," you would not be able to distinguish his list from a GTA V Mission FAQ. J--Jar Jar sucks! It's a trap! Darth Vader has asthma! Padme's makeup! Please! This is no way to write a comedy series!
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Feb 1, 2016 19:24
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Corek posted:There's been rumors around GBS for years that Tezzor is Goatstein. It's suddenly very clear as both get run out of everywhere they post for flipping out at regular intervals over nothing.
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Feb 1, 2016 19:27
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Tezzor posted:This is not a productive area of discussion because you seem incapable of realizing that what matters as to the quality of the movies is what's in the movies, not what exists many years later in literary shovelware, a cartoon for children, or your headcanon. The main character of the original Star Wars is introduced at a slave auction. The main character of the prequels is a slave. The series is just crawling with slaves. Low quality would be including this motif incoherently. Evil people treat slaves as disposable objects, torture them, forbid them from entering drinking establishments, and send them to die by the million in absurd pointless wars. Good people respect them as people. This is not a secret. It's actually extremely obvious.
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Feb 1, 2016 19:27
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And he was a good friend...that I left limbless and burning to death instead of helping or putting out of his misery.
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Feb 1, 2016 19:28
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Bongo Bill posted:The main character of the original Star Wars is introduced at a slave auction. The main character of the prequels is a slave. The series is just crawling with slaves. Low quality would be including this motif incoherently. Mmm, no. You're looking too much into this crap. It's not your fault, it's actually very common. Take a step back and look again: It's childish, GI Joe level morality and you're merely attaching a headcanon to it. I'm sorry.
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Feb 1, 2016 19:34
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rear end Catchcum posted:And he was a good friend...that I left limbless and burning to death instead of helping or putting out of his misery. It's a deliberate contrast with how Luke acts after he's defeated (sparing and trying to save him). Obi Wan failed him in every respect, even after he admits as much
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Feb 1, 2016 19:35
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Tezzor posted:Mmm, no. You're looking too much into this crap. It's not your fault, it's actually very common. Take a step back and look again: It's childish, GI Joe level morality and you're merely attaching a headcanon to it. I'm sorry. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MspVCc0_R3g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7iIyAfWg_w
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Feb 1, 2016 19:35
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Raxivace posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MspVCc0_R3g Two points: 1: I am specifically talking about the prequels and the claims that there are Deep Motifs and Morality Therein 2. Lmfao oh my god
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Feb 1, 2016 19:37
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Tezzor posted:Two points: You were not specifically talking about the prequels. The post you were responding to by Bill was arguing that the prequels continue a theme set up in the OT- namely the dichotomy between one protagonist being introduced as helping purchase slaves, and another protagonist being introduced as a slave. It's a pretty basic parallel.
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Feb 1, 2016 19:44
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Tezzor posted:Mmm, no. You're looking too much into this crap. It's not your fault, it's actually very common. Take a step back and look again: It's childish, GI Joe level morality and you're merely attaching a headcanon to it. I'm sorry. GI Joe level morality is also obvious and not a secret. A reading of GI Joe that recognizes moral elements in it is not necessarily "deep," unless by "deep" you mean something unusual.
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Feb 1, 2016 19:46
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The ethics of Star Wars are 'on the surface' for everyone to see. Star Wars fans ignore the surface and search for the 'deep', hidden, personal motivations of fantasized jew-figure George Lucas.
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Feb 1, 2016 19:50
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Bongo Bill posted:GI Joe level morality is also obvious and not a secret. A reading of GI Joe that recognizes moral elements in it is not necessarily "deep," unless by "deep" you mean something unusual. Moral elements like "well a lot of those Cobra guys had families and I bet some of them suffered permanent debilitating brain damage after being punched and knocked out;" that is to say, things that might make sense according to real-world logic, but not in evidence in the story itself.
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Feb 1, 2016 19:52
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Tezzor posted:Moral elements like "well a lot of those Cobra guys had families and I bet some of them suffered permanent debilitating brain damage after being punched and knocked out;" that is to say, things that might make sense according to real-world logic, but not in evidence in the story itself. Slavery is also a bad thing "in-universe."
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Feb 1, 2016 19:57
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Tezzor posted:Here's the last Star Wars thing Lucas created: I mean I wouldn't seek it out, but there were enough decent jokes in that reel that I'd probably watch it.
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Feb 1, 2016 20:02
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Bongo Bill posted:Slavery is also a bad thing "in-universe." I'm going to need to hear what the Disney Story Group has to say on the issue before I can accept that slavery is bad.
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Feb 1, 2016 20:08
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A New Hope makes it clear in the first 20 minutes that droid slavery is accepted by royalty, the military, and the peasantry. Slavery is only OK when it's not People Like Me
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Feb 1, 2016 20:10
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I hate to be the guy who brings up Hidden Fortress, because its common knowledge at this point, but this is something Lucas has been very up-front about for a long time. It was important to Lucas that Star Wars be told from the perspective of the lowest characters, was that just a mini-stroke or something that he was having at that moment, or was there actual thought behind that decision?
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Feb 1, 2016 20:16
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Baronash posted:I mean I wouldn't seek it out, but there were enough decent jokes in that reel that I'd probably watch it. Yeah, it feels like a toned-down-for-kids version of Robot Chicken: Star Wars. Which is exactly what it seems like it was supposed to be. Parts of it made me laugh. Especially the part where Dex is going on about all of Padme's poor life decisions. What am I supposed to be up-in-arms about again? Jack Gladney posted:Also, how else do you make machines? Pretty sure that Lucas is a fan of automated production since his billions depend on it. Threepio is reacting to the idea of a future where human beings have been completely cut out of the process of existence and replaced by self-replicating machines. Automated production has long been considered symbolic of that future, even if by itself there's nothing apocalyptically bad about it. rear end Catchcum posted:And he was a good friend...that I left limbless and burning to death instead of helping or putting out of his misery. Vader/Anakin clearly still wanted to live, even if just to enact his revenge on Obi-Wan. He didn't want to be put out of his misery. But at the same time, Obi-Wan knew he couldn't be saved. So he left it up to fate. Cnut the Great fucked around with this message at 20:35 on Feb 1, 2016 |
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Feb 1, 2016 20:21
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We have entered a realm where words and images have no peaning and only eandom hyperbole holds sway. The Tezzor zone.
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Feb 1, 2016 20:39
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Tezzor posted:Moral elements like "well a lot of those Cobra guys had families and I bet some of them suffered permanent debilitating brain damage after being punched and knocked out;" that is to say, things that might make sense according to real-world logic, but not in evidence in the story itself. You have strange views on morality.
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Feb 1, 2016 20:43
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Cnut the Great posted:Yeah, it feels like a toned-down-for-kids version of Robot Chicken: Star Wars. Which is exactly what it seems like it was supposed to be. Parts of it made me laugh. Especially the part where Dex is going on about all of Padme's poor life decisions. Cool but you don't do that to someone and still call them a good friend.
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Feb 1, 2016 20:57
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rear end Catchcum posted:Cool but you don't do that to someone and still call them a good friend. He said "was" a good friend. They were no longer good friends by the time he left him on Mustafar.
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Feb 1, 2016 20:59
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Obi-Wan is pretty clearly lying to Luke throughout all of ANH.
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Feb 1, 2016 21:00
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rear end Catchcum posted:Cool but you don't do that to someone and still call them a good friend. Obi-wan was never able to reconcile Anakin Skywalker and Darth Vader. By his rationalization, the man who was his friend and the man who he hacked to pieces are two different people.
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Serf posted:Obi-Wan is pretty clearly lying to Luke throughout all of ANH. In the cantina, where does Kenobi drift off to that Luke is able to be accosted by two criminals on the run?
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