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qntm: Jun 17, 2009

sound the alarm, you're going to be uncomfortably parallel

# ? Mar 8, 2015 18:08

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# ? May 24, 2024 23:20

Bloody: Mar 3, 2013

tef posted:

EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A VHS INTO THE SLOT. ITS ERLANG: THE MOVIE AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I START DOING THE MOVES ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, JOE. I DO EVERY MOVE AND I DO EVERY MOVE HARD. MAKIN WHOOSHING SOUNDS WHEN I SLAM DOWN SOME TELEPHONE OR EVEN WHEN I MESS UP TECHNIQUE. NOT MANY CAN SAY THEY ESCAPED CONSECUTIVE PROGRAMMING. I CAN. I SAY IT AND I SAY IT OUTLOUD EVERYDAY TO PEOPLE IN MY COLLEGE CLASS AND ALL THEY DO IS PROVE PEOPLE IN COLLEGE CLASS CAN STILL BE IMMATURE JERKS. AND IVE LEARNED ALL THE LINES AND IVE LEARNED HOW TO MAKE MYSELF AND MY APARTMENT LESS LONELY BY SHOUTING EM ALL. 2 HOURS INCLUDING WIND DOWN EVERY MORNING. THEN I LIFT

same

# ? Mar 8, 2015 18:53

MononcQc: May 29, 2007

tef posted:

EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A VHS INTO THE SLOT. ITS ERLANG: THE MOVIE AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I START DOING THE MOVES ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, JOE. I DO EVERY MOVE AND I DO EVERY MOVE HARD. MAKIN WHOOSHING SOUNDS WHEN I SLAM DOWN SOME TELEPHONE OR EVEN WHEN I MESS UP TECHNIQUE. NOT MANY CAN SAY THEY ESCAPED CONSECUTIVE PROGRAMMING. I CAN. I SAY IT AND I SAY IT OUTLOUD EVERYDAY TO PEOPLE IN MY COLLEGE CLASS AND ALL THEY DO IS PROVE PEOPLE IN COLLEGE CLASS CAN STILL BE IMMATURE JERKS. AND IVE LEARNED ALL THE LINES AND IVE LEARNED HOW TO MAKE MYSELF AND MY APARTMENT LESS LONELY BY SHOUTING EM ALL. 2 HOURS INCLUDING WIND DOWN EVERY MORNING. THEN I LIFT

same but I don't lift

# ? Mar 9, 2015 01:02

Soricidus: Oct 21, 2010; freedom-hating statist shill

MononcQc posted:

same but I don't lift

I assumed he was using lift in the category theory sense

# ? Mar 9, 2015 01:45

MononcQc: May 29, 2007

then I lyft

# ? Mar 9, 2015 01:50

eschaton: Mar 7, 2007; Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

bobbilljim posted:

haskell is the high level language designed to be harder to use than assembly

is there a PROLOG in Haskell?

# ? Mar 9, 2015 05:11

eschaton: Mar 7, 2007; Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

monad?

more like bronad

# ? Mar 9, 2015 05:13

fart simpson: Jul 2, 2005; DEATH TO AMERICA

haskell is actually really easy to use

# ? Mar 9, 2015 05:25

Bloody: Mar 3, 2013

Monad more like gonad

# ? Mar 9, 2015 05:28

gonadic io: Feb 16, 2011; >>=

Bloody posted:

Monad more like gonad

# ? Mar 9, 2015 09:14

jesus WEP: Oct 17, 2004

Bloody posted:

Monad more like gonad

idk how these work either

# ? Mar 9, 2015 09:16

Soricidus: Oct 21, 2010; freedom-hating statist shill

Bloody posted:

Monad more like gonad

go doesn't need monads silly

# ? Mar 9, 2015 10:33

Workaday Wizard: Oct 23, 2009; by Pragmatica

c terrible programmer s:
i made some nice swing gui thing with Kotlin and i dont hate it yet

i like having a real ide and i like having multiple classes in one file (super helpful for rapid prototyping imho)

it also helps that the language is aiming to be "nicer java" instead of whatever the gently caress Scala is.

# ? Mar 9, 2015 12:02

prefect: Sep 11, 2001; No one, Woodhouse.
No one.; Dead Man’s Band

tef posted:

EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A VHS INTO THE SLOT. ITS ERLANG: THE MOVIE AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I START DOING THE MOVES ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, JOE. I DO EVERY MOVE AND I DO EVERY MOVE HARD. MAKIN WHOOSHING SOUNDS WHEN I SLAM DOWN SOME TELEPHONE OR EVEN WHEN I MESS UP TECHNIQUE. NOT MANY CAN SAY THEY ESCAPED CONSECUTIVE PROGRAMMING. I CAN. I SAY IT AND I SAY IT OUTLOUD EVERYDAY TO PEOPLE IN MY COLLEGE CLASS AND ALL THEY DO IS PROVE PEOPLE IN COLLEGE CLASS CAN STILL BE IMMATURE JERKS. AND IVE LEARNED ALL THE LINES AND IVE LEARNED HOW TO MAKE MYSELF AND MY APARTMENT LESS LONELY BY SHOUTING EM ALL. 2 HOURS INCLUDING WIND DOWN EVERY MORNING. THEN I LIFT

chronicles of mononcqc

# ? Mar 9, 2015 12:07

Stringent: Dec 22, 2004; image text goes here

St Evan Echoes posted:

idk how these work either

a gonad is like a taco

# ? Mar 9, 2015 12:29

tef: May 30, 2004; -> some l-system crap ->

eschaton posted:

is there a PROLOG in Haskell?

it's called curry

# ? Mar 9, 2015 14:57

tef: May 30, 2004; -> some l-system crap ->

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curry_%28programming_language%29

# ? Mar 9, 2015 14:57

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

Shinku ABOOKEN posted:

it also helps that the language is aiming to be "nicer java" instead of whatever the gently caress Scala is.

scala is definitely a "nicer java." that's a core project goal

it also has about five other goals. :smith:

# ? Mar 9, 2015 16:01

Bloody: Mar 3, 2013

Shinku ABOOKEN posted:

nice swing gui

lol not bloody likely

# ? Mar 9, 2015 16:58

Bloody: Mar 3, 2013

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

scala is definitely a "nicer java." that's a core project goal

it also has about five other goals.

everything about scala is "it has about five other x"

# ? Mar 9, 2015 16:58

Soricidus: Oct 21, 2010; freedom-hating statist shill

a gonad is a gonoid in the category of pendulofunctors

# ? Mar 9, 2015 19:34

gonadic io: Feb 16, 2011; >>=

Soricidus posted:

a gonad is a gonoid in the category of pendulofunctors

# ? Mar 9, 2015 20:16

bobbilljim: May 29, 2013; this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me

Bloody posted:

lol not bloody likely

nice self callout

# ? Mar 9, 2015 23:14

compuserved: Mar 20, 2006; Nap Ghost

Soricidus posted:

a gonad is a gonoid in the category of pendulofunctors

# ? Mar 9, 2015 23:28

master of the sea: Apr 16, 2003; *skweeeeeee*

thos thread has made me a more knowingly terrible programmer thank you all

# ? Mar 10, 2015 00:10

gonadic io: Feb 16, 2011; >>=

master of the sea posted:

thos thread has made me a more knowingly terrible programmer thank you all

that's its goal! also to occasionally help with a specific homework problem (usually involving xml workflow java bullshit, threads, or monads)

# ? Mar 10, 2015 00:36

Gul Banana: Nov 28, 2003

Jabor posted:

i know this is way late but any reasonable mocking framework will let you create a mock for a (non-final) concrete class. no need to use a single-implementation interface to be able to mock it out in a test.

I've got a colleague who went through everyone's machines and changed the visual studio templates to create sealed (c# for final) classes by default
lots of IInterface in that code.

# ? Mar 10, 2015 07:14

MeruFM: Jul 27, 2010

Gul Banana posted:

I've got a colleague who went through everyone's machines and changed the visual studio templates to create sealed (c# for final) classes by default
lots of IInterface in that code.

this is not a bad policy sometimes

i wish some of my predecessors had restraint wrt python. not everyone is an adult, __ didn't save everyone.

also from xx import * is the devil

# ? Mar 10, 2015 09:31

fart simpson: Jul 2, 2005; DEATH TO AMERICA

MeruFM posted:

also from xx import * is the devil

the worst part about haskell is that the default when you write "import Farts" is basically the equivalent of "from Farts import *"

# ? Mar 10, 2015 09:55

Maluco Marinero: Jan 18, 2001; Damn that's a
fine elephant.

Except with type checking you're more likely to discover the error/collision at compile time, making it not nearly as risky a wildcard python import.

# ? Mar 10, 2015 10:36

fart simpson: Jul 2, 2005; DEATH TO AMERICA

Maluco Marinero posted:

Except with type checking you're more likely to discover the error/collision at compile time, making it not nearly as risky a wildcard python import.

yes the compiler can figure it out, but i think it makes the code much harder to read. you don't know by looking at a function where it's coming from

# ? Mar 10, 2015 12:02

leftist heap: Feb 28, 2013; Fun Shoe

i almost never do unqualified or unquantified imports in haskell and i generally stick to qualified unless the code is going to look idiotic otherwise (like for operators, Bits..&. just looks wrong).

# ? Mar 10, 2015 16:30

gonadic io: Feb 16, 2011; >>=

lmao can you imagine lens as a qualified import

# ? Mar 10, 2015 17:25

Arcsech: Aug 5, 2008

fart simpson posted:

the worst part about haskell is that the default when you write "import Farts" is basically the equivalent of "from Farts import *"

this is far from the worst part about haskell

operator abuse is far worse

# ? Mar 10, 2015 17:39

leftist heap: Feb 28, 2013; Fun Shoe

gonadic io posted:

lmao can you imagine lens as a qualified import

never even heard of lens and just from skimming the github it looks like something I would never in a million years use.

code:

 (%~)  is an infix alias for 'over', and the precedence lets you avoid swimming in parentheses:

ghci> _1.mapped._2.mapped %~ succ $ ([(42, "hello")],"world")
([(42, "ifmmp")],"world")

wow where has lens been all my life??

# ? Mar 10, 2015 18:06

gonadic io: Feb 16, 2011; >>=

mild lens use is by far the least bad way to deal with multiple nested data tyles

# ? Mar 10, 2015 18:14

gonadic io: Feb 16, 2011; >>=

i really can't be bothered to retype it all but i give an overview, justification, and apology for lens here: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3481275&userid=172603&perpage=40&pagenumber=3#post425466206

# ? Mar 10, 2015 18:17

Dessert Rose: May 17, 2004; awoken in control of a lucid deep dream...

gonadic io posted:

mild lens use is by far the least bad way to deal with multiple nested data tyles

clojure seems to manage just fine with assoc-in and update-in

but I guess if you must have infix operators, sure

# ? Mar 10, 2015 18:18

gonadic io: Feb 16, 2011; >>=

this code would be roughly 4 times as long, verbose, and annoying to understand without it:

code:

updateGameState :: Float -> GameState -> GameState
updateGameState dt gameState = appEndo (F.foldMap runAct (actions dt)) gameState
    where
    runAct (k,f) = if member k (_keysDown gameState) then Endo f else mempty

actions :: Float -> [(Key, GameState -> GameState)]
actions dt =
    [ (Char 'w', viewPort.vpTranslate._2 -~   5*dt)
    , (Char 's', viewPort.vpTranslate._2 +~   5*dt)
    , (Char 'a', viewPort.vpTranslate._1 +~   5*dt)
    , (Char 'd', viewPort.vpTranslate._1 -~   5*dt)
    , (Char '-', viewPort.vpScale        *~ 1-1*dt)
    , (Char '=', viewPort.vpScale        *~ 1+1*dt)
    , (Char 'r', const initialGameState)
    , (Char '.', nextTurn)


    , (SpecialKey KeyLeft     , selectedPlayer.direction %~ rotLeft )
    , (SpecialKey KeyRight    , selectedPlayer.direction %~ rotRight)

    , (MouseButton LeftButton , setSelection       )
    , (MouseButton RightButton, moveSelectedPlayer )
    ]

gonadic io fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Mar 10, 2015

# ? Mar 10, 2015 18:18

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# ? May 24, 2024 23:20

Necc0: Jun 30, 2005; by exmarx; Broken Cake

i've just spent the past two days chasing my own tail trying to get what seemed like a super easy fix into this system only to find that whatever dipshit wrote this code decided he was going to re-calculate this one value multiple times at random places all throughout the stack. so far it's been calculated in five un-related javascript functions with different entry/exit points, in two places on the backend that I know of, and i wouldn't be loving surprised if there's a trigger in the DB calculating it as well. instead of hunting all this garbage down and fixing it i'm just throwing my own, correct, code at the very end and washing my hands of it. it's me. i'm the terrible programmer

# ? Mar 10, 2015 18:53

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