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Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

Waffle! posted:

Awesome seed with Isaac:

XZD4 F4VM

Got holy mantle, sacrificial dagger, Cricket's head real early. The Mom fight her first stomp crushes a block with the Small Rock underneath it... never seen that before. Had just about every tear status effect possible.

http://imgur.com/PZm9Mo9

I wonder if it's possible to get a crawlspace hatch from a rock in a boss room.

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Hyphen-ated
Apr 24, 2006
Not to be confused with endash or minus.
Today I had a boss fight with a blue rock on top of the spot where the boss item appears. It gave a small rock when it broke. here is a video http://www.twitch.tv/hyphen_ated/v/16246718

IUG
Jul 14, 2007


I remember a while ago someone posted about how close they've spawned to the boss room. Here's a map where I spawned one room to the boss room. It was also a double The Cage, which really sucked as I already had a boss fight with The Cage. I didn't win this run either, died to Isaac.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=521160901

IMJack
Apr 16, 2003

Royalty is a continuous ripping and tearing motion.


Fun Shoe
I really like Infestation 2. I had something happen the other night where I picked it up at the start of the Boss Rush. When I killed one of those first two monsters, pretty sure it was Gurdy Jr, like twenty blue spiders popped out. Don't know if it was a glitch; normally I only see two spiders spawn per monster "segment"; but between the absurd damage I was already running and the army of spiders following me I cleared the rest of the game remarkably fast.

IUG
Jul 14, 2007


IMJack posted:

I really like Infestation 2. I had something happen the other night where I picked it up at the start of the Boss Rush. When I killed one of those first two monsters, pretty sure it was Gurdy Jr, like twenty blue spiders popped out. Don't know if it was a glitch; normally I only see two spiders spawn per monster "segment"; but between the absurd damage I was already running and the army of spiders following me I cleared the rest of the game remarkably fast.

You get that from the multi-part bosses. Like Pin, Chub, Larry Jr, etc. Each part of the boss spawns a spider when they die. Although in the cases like Larry Jr, the spawned spider usually kills itself on another segment almost right away.

IMJack
Apr 16, 2003

Royalty is a continuous ripping and tearing motion.


Fun Shoe

IUG posted:

You get that from the multi-part bosses. Like Pin, Chub, Larry Jr, etc. Each part of the boss spawns a spider when they die. Although in the cases like Larry Jr, the spawned spider usually kills itself on another segment almost right away.

I knew about that. But Gurdy Jr? Or does the Blighted Ovum have a lot of invisible segments?

Skaw
Aug 5, 2004

IMJack posted:

I knew about that. But Gurdy Jr? Or does the Blighted Ovum have a lot of invisible segments?

It's possible that it does. Every segment on Gemini's cord counts as an enemy for spawning stuff like that, so yeah Ovum could very well just have his be invisible.

FairyNuff
Jan 22, 2012

IUG posted:

You get that from the multi-part bosses. Like Pin, Chub, Larry Jr, etc. Each part of the boss spawns a spider when they die. Although in the cases like Larry Jr, the spawned spider usually kills itself on another segment almost right away.

Use the d10 on multi segmented enemies!

kemikalkadet
Sep 16, 2012

:woof:

Skaw posted:

It's possible that it does. Every segment on Gemini's cord counts as an enemy for spawning stuff like that, so yeah Ovum could very well just have his be invisible.

There's a bug that causes a million spiders to spawn. I caught it on video here:


Skip to 1 minute in.

Vegastar
Jan 2, 2005

Tigers will do anything for a tuna sandwich.


Holy gently caress I finally finished all the Lost post it sections. I am so happy.

Literal Nazi Furry
Jan 27, 2008

Swastika - Helvetica - Ikea
Last night I dreamt of Adolf searching for Anne.
I lay on my back
standing alone in the corner watching the girls dance.

I'm on crystal meth.
I piss in my pants.

Vegastar posted:

Holy gently caress I finally finished all the Lost post it sections. I am so happy.

just in time for next month when there's more!

Vegastar
Jan 2, 2005

Tigers will do anything for a tuna sandwich.


Literal Nazi Furry posted:

just in time for next month when there's more!

I know, I needed to finish it before they turn on whiny baby mode for afterbirth.

IMJack
Apr 16, 2003

Royalty is a continuous ripping and tearing motion.


Fun Shoe

kemikalkadet posted:

There's a bug that causes a million spiders to spawn. I caught it on video here:


Skip to 1 minute in.

I actually saw something similar again, except with Mom's Wig. Spider eruption. Not that I'm complaining, mind.

borf
Apr 5, 2006

Vegastar posted:

Holy gently caress I finally finished all the Lost post it sections. I am so happy.

Finally getting around to Lost runs myself. Just beat the cathedral side and its chest. All it took was 9 Lives, becoming guppy, and triple-shot brimstone. No problem!
Is there an easy way to see what I'm missing for Platinum God? Is it just filling in the post-it with all the characters? And would that include boss rush with them all?

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!

borf posted:

Finally getting around to Lost runs myself. Just beat the cathedral side and its chest. All it took was 9 Lives, becoming guppy, and triple-shot brimstone. No problem!
Is there an easy way to see what I'm missing for Platinum God? Is it just filling in the post-it with all the characters? And would that include boss rush with them all?

To get RPG you need to:

Pick up every item at least once
Unlock every (other) secret

So you need to do the Boss Rush with all the characters, yes, as well as all the challenges.

borf
Apr 5, 2006
Shiiit, guess I should've gone for that boss rush as Lost when I had that brimstone...

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!
And you did do it on Hard, right? You need to do all the Lost stuff on hard to the Godhead.

Sanctum
Feb 14, 2005

Property was their religion
A church for one

Carbon dioxide posted:

I wonder if it's possible to get a crawlspace hatch from a rock in a boss room.
I've gotten them in boss and devil rooms, but only when using "we need to deeper."

Pretty sure it's not possible otherwise.

Diesel Fucker
Aug 14, 2003

I spent my rent money on tentacle porn.
Not played this in a while and decided to go and try and unlock The Lost.

Doing my Judas run with seed YR8E YXDV to die to mom, now, the question is, when I play as Azazel I have to die to Satan and if I die to anything else BEFORE Satan do I have to do the WHOLE thing over? Or just Azazel's section.

Diesel Fucker fucked around with this message at 15:08 on Sep 20, 2015

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!
Everything. Also if you close BoI.

Absum
May 28, 2013

You can close it just fine and if you just hold R to reset before you get the game over screen you don't have to redo anything.

Diesel Fucker
Aug 14, 2003

I spent my rent money on tentacle porn.
Did it all first go. Now if I can just stop dying to spider as The Lost!

Vegastar
Jan 2, 2005

Tigers will do anything for a tuna sandwich.


Lasher posted:

Did it all first go. Now if I can just stop dying to spider as The Lost!

Just hold R until you get a high damage, holy mantle or 9 lives start. Save your sanity.

Ariong
Jun 25, 2012

Get bashed, platonist!

If you're doing it at this point I would recommend waiting for Afterbirth to come out.

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!

Ariong posted:

If you're doing it at this point I would recommend waiting for Afterbirth to come out.

Assuming it doesn't make it immeasurably harder :ohdear:

HenryEx
Mar 25, 2009

...your cybernetic implants, the only beauty in that meat you call "a body"...
Grimey Drawer
If you'e gunning for Meat Boy / Bandage Girl, definitely do that before the expansion, because your chances to setup a working generator with Monster Manual will drop like a loving rock with 500+ items in the pool.

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!

MrL_JaKiri posted:

Assuming it doesn't make it immeasurably harder :ohdear:

Edmund begrudgingly (and I mean it, he sounded real salty about it) said he would change The Lost to be more fair in the Afterbirth update. Of course, the rest of the game might get more difficult around The Lost, but at least the character itself won't suck as bad.

Vegastar
Jan 2, 2005

Tigers will do anything for a tuna sandwich.


CJacobs posted:

Edmund begrudgingly (and I mean it, he sounded real salty about it) said he would change The Lost to be more fair in the Afterbirth update. Of course, the rest of the game might get more difficult around The Lost, but at least the character itself won't suck as bad.

It's not a wonderful upgrade either, he starts with spectral tears and the D4. Useful for garbage starts, but why would you bother playing a trash Lost start when you can scrap the poo poo out of it and reroll for something good.

At least spectral tears makes a Death's Touch start a bit more potent.

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



I find giving The Lost the D4 really funny because you've got a good chance of ruining any run every time you use it

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!

Manatee Cannon posted:

I find giving The Lost the D4 really funny because you've got a good chance of ruining any run every time you use it

That goes for pretty much any character, but for The Lost at least it's useful for converting useless health-up items possibly into other things.

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



It's much worse for The Lost than any other character. Anyone else starting with it would be cool, but for The Lost you're just asking to get Soy Milk or a bunch of useless health upgrades. There are a lot of things that are actively detrimental to The Lost in ways that aren't to other characters as well. For example: Ipecac. The Lost has a much higher risk factor with rerolling and no additional benefits.

you can make a lot of lovely rerolls work for other characters as well, but with The Lost it's a matter of dying in one hit and thus even small downgrades can be very bad

Vegastar
Jan 2, 2005

Tigers will do anything for a tuna sandwich.


Manatee Cannon posted:

It's much worse for The Lost than any other character. Anyone else starting with it would be cool, but for The Lost you're just asking to get Soy Milk or a bunch of useless health upgrades. There are a lot of things that are actively detrimental to The Lost in ways that aren't to other characters as well. For example: Ipecac. The Lost has a much higher risk factor with rerolling and no additional benefits.

Especially when you consider you can roll in to soy milk, dr. fetus, and a couple others I can't think of, but you can't roll back out of them. One bad D4 and your damage is hosed permanently, and it's time to reboot the run all over.

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
The additional benefit is the chance to get rid of items that are of literally no use to you. Like health-ups.

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



There are always items that are potentially of no use

you can still get Breakfast or whatever even with full red hearts

LionYeti
Oct 12, 2008


I understand why they don't give the lost the d6 as it would just be then flying unfun shittily designed isaac. What they should have done is give the lost an item like I dunno Lost Soul which removes all plain HP ups (breakfast luch a snack etc) from the item pools.

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!

Manatee Cannon posted:

There are always items that are potentially of no use

you can still get Breakfast or whatever even with full red hearts
Yes, that's true, and a perfectly acceptable risk.

Vegastar
Jan 2, 2005

Tigers will do anything for a tuna sandwich.


LionYeti posted:

I understand why they don't give the lost the d6 as it would just be then flying unfun shittily designed isaac. What they should have done is give the lost an item like I dunno Lost Soul which removes all plain HP ups (breakfast luch a snack etc) from the item pools.

I always liked the idea of giving him the D20, frankly. Rolling useless red hearts in to chests and consumables seems so much more useful than D4ing a run without basically handing you a high damage brimstone every run. Just give him Holy Mantle and the D20 to start if you're going to make him easier without actually getting rid of the spirit of the challenge.

flyboi
Oct 13, 2005

agg stop posting
College Slice

Vegastar posted:

Especially when you consider you can roll in to soy milk, dr. fetus, and a couple others I can't think of, but you can't roll back out of them. One bad D4 and your damage is hosed permanently, and it's time to reboot the run all over.

Or roll items into familiars which cannot be rolled back into items

the popular kids
Dec 27, 2010

Time for some thrilling heroics.
I feel like such an idiot. (ps4) I beat mega satan on my first try on hard (pure luck with Azazeal) but unlocking The Lost? Hah. I have no idea what I'm screwing up.

So I should just wait 'til Afterbirth or will unlocking him be the same process?

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froward
Jun 2, 2014

by Azathoth
hi i like rebirth a lot and am looking for ward to afterbirth!!!!1 also i have 100% if that earns me any points k have fun gotta go

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