UKMT Autumn 2020 - Thou shalt have a Rishi act a little fishi

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Lungboy: Aug 23, 2002; NEED SQUAT FORM HELP

Until the new wording is presented in the Commons on wednesday it's all guesswork and briefings.

In other news, it's Ireland but this has had me laughing all day https://twitter.com/eirebhoy/status/1302876966375305216

# ? Sep 7, 2020 23:40

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# ? May 23, 2024 23:17

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

happyhippy posted:

1. Self preservation, and to angle it early that it's everything being the EU's fault instead. All along the UK has been trying to 'square the circle', an impossible set of demands that are contradictory.
Northern Ireland is an example. They want it to both be part of the EU, but also outside of the EU and fully UK. The compromise that May and the rest of the EU agreed to was a 'customs border' between NI and the rest of the UK, with a look at it a few years from now, after the place is settled into full brexit. This is because NI gets a shitload of its goods, and trades with, the Republic of Ireland. NI exports 30% of all its goods to Ireland, Ireland exports to NI just 1% (2016 figures). So the less red tape there is, the better it is for NI. But now Boris is threatening the customs border at the Irish border, which again is loving impossible to set up within 3 months. loving over NI more than Ireland and the EU.

2. Right now you can drive a truck full of goods to anywhere from anywhere in Ireland. So you have trade between businesses all over the place. If the customs is at the border, all trucks will have to wait until they are verified and allowed to travel.
With no infrastructure, there is no way to check them all, so a build up will happen. Meaning possible 'Just In Time' food and such shortages. And Boris will frame it as Irelands problem, not the UKs. A lot of businesses and farmers are going to collapse next year. NI is already an economic wasteland, the usual brain drain to the south and elsewhere will speed up and NI will just be shittier. The Republic has sort of prepared for it, a few hundred million has been set aside to see what is going to happen.

3. No one in NI votes Tory, and Tories hate anyone not Tory. If they could get away with it, NI would have been left to defend for itself decades ago. And seeing there is no infrastructure set up after 4 years and counting, its time to go on the offensive and saber rattle before the food shortages start. By the time the poo poo does hit the fan, he will have retired as Best PM Ever! to all the other brain worm flag waving bigots.

What would the situation be if we *did* keep the NI/ROI border open, and not do any checks on stuff crossing the Irish Sea? Would Ireland be forced to "close" the border by the terms of their EU treaty commitments?

# ? Sep 8, 2020 00:05

happyhippy: Feb 21, 2005; Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup; Pillbug

goddamnedtwisto posted:

What would the situation be if we *did* keep the NI/ROI border open, and not do any checks on stuff crossing the Irish Sea? Would Ireland be forced to "close" the border by the terms of their EU treaty commitments?

Haven't a clue, can't find any articles online on that situation.
But there must be some EU ruling that you can't just accept goods from non-EU countries, that's part of the point of the EU.

If it were, Ireland would be the new Mos Eisley.
Smuggling would be the new economy.
Truckers would be telling tales of doing Kale runs in under 12 border checkpoints.

# ? Sep 8, 2020 00:19

Lady Demelza: Dec 29, 2009; Lipstick Apathy

goddamnedtwisto posted:

What would the situation be if we *did* keep the NI/ROI border open, and not do any checks on stuff crossing the Irish Sea? Would Ireland be forced to "close" the border by the terms of their EU treaty commitments?

Yes. Borders have two sides, and just because we choose not to check anything on our side, doesn't mean the Irish wouldn't. The government have already admitted the border controls won't be ready for January, regardless of wherther they're at the ROI/NI border or in the Irish Sea, so they're really forcing Ireland to take responsibility. The Irish would be within their rights to check not just stuff coming *into* Ireland (and thus potentially the rest of the EU) for quality, but also stuff being exported *out* of Ireland and into NI/rest of GB.

This applies to all the other ports too, so Rotterdam and Calais will also be checking paperwork and goods being imported into the UK.

# ? Sep 8, 2020 00:29

RockyB: Mar 8, 2007; Dog Therapy: Shockingly Good

Remember thiscatdoesnotexist.com and the monstrosities it created?

https://vole.wtf/this-mp-does-not-exist/

# ? Sep 8, 2020 00:49

Red Oktober: May 24, 2006; wiggly eyes!

RockyB posted:

Remember thiscatdoesnotexist.com and the monstrosities it created?

https://vole.wtf/this-mp-does-not-exist/

Good lord most of those look so real.

I think this one.... well. I�m not sure what I think. I don�t like it though.

# ? Sep 8, 2020 00:56

Jaeluni Asjil: Apr 18, 2018; Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Red Oktober posted:

Good lord most of those look so real.

I think this one.... well. I�m not sure what I think. I don�t like it though.

A few of those - male and female - have that weird haircut, long on one side. I wonder where the neural thingy got that from? I didn't know Human League were MPs.
Funny thing is you can guess which party. Smooth straight blonde hair on a female = tory without a doubt.

# ? Sep 8, 2020 00:59

The_Doctor: Mar 29, 2007; "The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

RockyB posted:

Remember thiscatdoesnotexist.com and the monstrosities it created?

https://vole.wtf/this-mp-does-not-exist/

gently caress off, I�ve definitely met some of these people when I worked at parliament.

# ? Sep 8, 2020 01:28

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

Lady Demelza posted:

Yes. Borders have two sides, and just because we choose not to check anything on our side, doesn't mean the Irish wouldn't. The government have already admitted the border controls won't be ready for January, regardless of wherther they're at the ROI/NI border or in the Irish Sea, so they're really forcing Ireland to take responsibility. The Irish would be within their rights to check not just stuff coming *into* Ireland (and thus potentially the rest of the EU) for quality, but also stuff being exported *out* of Ireland and into NI/rest of GB.

This applies to all the other ports too, so Rotterdam and Calais will also be checking paperwork and goods being imported into the UK.

I'm thinking more of the Good Friday Agreement commitment to keep the border open - checks, even if they're cursory "Is this milk or is it white lead paint?" glances at the border, are a breach of the GFA, which was the whole point of all of the finagling and chest-thumping over the last few years. I wonder if the Big Brains are thinking "Hmm, what if we made the Irish the bad guys breaking the treaty and not us?"

# ? Sep 8, 2020 01:34

Gyro Zeppeli: Jul 19, 2012; sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

goddamnedtwisto posted:

I'm thinking more of the Good Friday Agreement commitment to keep the border open - checks, even if they're cursory "Is this milk or is it white lead paint?" glances at the border, are a breach of the GFA, which was the whole point of all of the finagling and chest-thumping over the last few years. I wonder if the Big Brains are thinking "Hmm, what if we made the Irish the bad guys breaking the treaty and not us?"

This is 10000% the Tory plan right now. Just throw the entire pile of poo poo into the air and when it covers everyone, blame RoI for not handing out umbrellas.

# ? Sep 8, 2020 02:33

His Divine Shadow: Aug 7, 2000; I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.

# ? Sep 8, 2020 04:15

a pipe smoking dog: Jan 25, 2010; "haha, dogs can't smoke!"

His Divine Shadow posted:

The Joker: I...worked on this story for a year...and...he just...he tweeted it out.

# ? Sep 8, 2020 06:11

NotJustANumber99: Feb 15, 2012; somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

They're all very wrinkly.

# ? Sep 8, 2020 08:06

justcola: May 22, 2004; La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

These are my MPs for the shadow shadow cabinet

its good technology, there's barely any errors and most of the time the glasses look normal even.

https://thiscatdoesnotexist.com/
https://thispersondoesnotexist.com/
https://thisartworkdoesnotexist.com/
https://thisrentaldoesnotexist.com/

# ? Sep 8, 2020 08:25

Microplastics: Jul 6, 2007; It's what's for dinner.

justcola posted:

https://thiscatdoesnotexist.com/
https://thispersondoesnotexist.com/
https://thisartworkdoesnotexist.com/
https://thisrentaldoesnotexist.com/

Don't forget https://www.thiswaifudoesnotexist.net/

# ? Sep 8, 2020 08:31

Jedit: Dec 10, 2011; Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

A few of those - male and female - have that weird haircut, long on one side. I wonder where the neural thingy got that from? I didn't know Human League were MPs.
Funny thing is you can guess which party. Smooth straight blonde hair on a female = tory without a doubt.

They're all very slightly not quite human, so they're Tories without a doubt.

# ? Sep 8, 2020 08:37

Biggus Dickus: May 18, 2005; Roadies know where to focus the spotlight.

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Excluding fuel costs, how much do you reckon it costs to run a small car for a year?
(No, I can't drive and looking at driving test sites is giving me mild panic attacks - I was just wondering how many taxis I could take for the same cost!)

Very, very late to this but I just sold my old 2012 1.6 diesel Focus. It easily hit 50mpg and I�ve had 72 out of it, was �20 a year in tax and was pretty nippy as well. Total running costs for the last year I had it was approx �800 including insurance.

# ? Sep 8, 2020 08:54

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

A few of those - male and female - have that weird haircut, long on one side. I wonder where the neural thingy got that from? I didn't know Human League were MPs.
Funny thing is you can guess which party. Smooth straight blonde hair on a female = tory without a doubt.

# ? Sep 8, 2020 08:55

Jaeluni Asjil: Apr 18, 2018; Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Guavanaut posted:

The exception that proves the rule!

# ? Sep 8, 2020 09:02

Biggus Dickus: May 18, 2005; Roadies know where to focus the spotlight.

WhatEvil posted:

Help keep centrist piss boiling:

(Dawn, obviously)

Apparently I�m blocked!

# ? Sep 8, 2020 09:03

The Question IRL: Jun 8, 2013; Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

teacup posted:

can someone explain to an idiot Australian what this brexit backflip means, why Johnson is doing it and what it means for Ireland/ Northern Ireland?

What would a no deal mean for Ireland / ni also?

I really don’t get it. Why would he do it?

Another huge problem is when goods checks and boarders are spoken about, there is no boarder between the Republic and Northern Ireland. It's the width of most of the country and runs through many people's farms. Trying to have a boarder is like the wall between Mexico and the US, but with fewer mountains.

Also second, Boris has been constantly saying that enough technology can solve the problem. (Spoken like a man who doesn't in any way understand technology and probably calls scientists "boffins.")
Not realising that if you put up cameras or any sort of gates they will immediately be burnt out by locals.

# ? Sep 8, 2020 09:05

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

'Enough technology' probably means he fakes an attack against the UK by Ireland and then the entire NATO dogshit crew has to join in.

You know he's considered it, because it does solve the border.

# ? Sep 8, 2020 09:19

justcola: May 22, 2004; La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Personally I can't wait for Cummings to think the Internet of Things and blockchain can solve the border problem, without really understanding what that means. �50m to a Tory sponsor to half-arse it, another �10m to improve it before the project is cancelled and the government tries to use the civil service to manually check everything at the border with just an etch-a-sketch to keep track of imports

# ? Sep 8, 2020 09:19

CancerCakes: Jan 10, 2006

justcola posted:

Personally I can't wait for Cummings to think the Internet of Things and blockchain can solve the border problem, without really understanding what that means. £50m to a Tory sponsor to half-arse it, another £10m to improve it before the project is cancelled and the government tries to use the civil service to manually check everything at the border with just an etch-a-sketch to keep track of imports

This is literally already happening

# ? Sep 8, 2020 09:24

Jedit: Dec 10, 2011; Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

justcola posted:

Personally I can't wait for Cummings to think the Internet of Things and blockchain can solve the border problem, without really understanding what that means. £50m to a Tory sponsor to half-arse it, another £10m to improve it before the project is cancelled and the government tries to use the civil service to manually check everything at the border with just an etch-a-sketch to keep track of imports

The Tories have realised that they no longer even have to half-arse it. They're literally just handing out millions to their mates under the guise of procurement with no expectations that anything will be done.

# ? Sep 8, 2020 09:25

The Question IRL: Jun 8, 2013; Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

Guavanaut posted:

'Enough technology' probably means he fakes an attack against the UK by Ireland and then the entire NATO dogshit crew has to join in.

You know he's considered it, because it does solve the border.

I mean, noted diplomat and Banshee, Priti Patel did think that the Irish should be starved into compliance. So maybe "peaceful invasion" is supposed to be a step up.

Tory MP suggests using possible 'no-deal' food shortages to force Ireland to drop the backstop

# ? Sep 8, 2020 09:30

crispix: Mar 28, 2015; Grand-Maman m'a raconté
_{(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)}

Hello, dear

Guavanaut posted:

'Enough technology' probably means he fakes an attack against the UK by Ireland and then the entire NATO dogshit crew has to join in.

You know he's considered it, because it does solve the border.

Always wondered if he was mixing up Ireland and Iceland with that no resistance bit

lol no he just has liquid poo poo for brains

# ? Sep 8, 2020 09:31

Jaeluni Asjil: Apr 18, 2018; Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

The Question IRL posted:

I mean, noted diplomat and Banshee, Priti Patel did think that the Irish should be starved into compliance. So maybe "peaceful invasion" is supposed to be a step up.

Tory MP suggests using possible 'no-deal' food shortages to force Ireland to drop the backstop

God, she is evil.

# ? Sep 8, 2020 09:36

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Just start a war in Europe, peacefully like.

I suppose it might end up getting the UK kicked out of NATO or splitting it if they balls it up badly enough.

# ? Sep 8, 2020 09:37

Overminty: Mar 16, 2010; You may wonder what I am doing while reading your posts..

justcola posted:

https://thisartworkdoesnotexist.com/

# ? Sep 8, 2020 09:38

Z the IVth: Jan 28, 2009; The trouble with your "expendable machines"; Fun Shoe

Guavanaut posted:

Just start a war in Europe, peacefully like.

I suppose it might end up getting the UK kicked out of NATO or splitting it if they balls it up badly enough.

Operation Sealion II: The EU strikes back?

# ? Sep 8, 2020 09:39

Bobstar: Feb 8, 2006; KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

justcola posted:

https://thiscatdoesnotexist.com/
https://thispersondoesnotexist.com/
https://thisartworkdoesnotexist.com/
https://thisrentaldoesnotexist.com/

Hah, I hadn't come across the rental one. It combines my favourite things: laughing at rentals, and neural network recipes (https://aiweirdness.com/post/163878889437/try-these-neural-network-generated-recipes-at-your)

I won't spam loads of screenshots but I've already had a property located inside an airport railway station, and one where the host appears to be a small child :v:

e: "Smeg provided"!

Bobstar fucked around with this message at 09:46 on Sep 8, 2020

# ? Sep 8, 2020 09:39

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

thisrentaldoesnotexist: We put a bunch of rentals into an electronic thing and made a bunch of things that don't really exist.
The London property market: That was our idea

# ? Sep 8, 2020 09:43

Dead Goon: Dec 13, 2002; No Obvious Flaws

Roger Dicks MP
Aberhampton and Barnney

# ? Sep 8, 2020 10:13

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

Taking the skin suit a bit too literally on that one.

# ? Sep 8, 2020 10:16

Jose: Jul 24, 2007; Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

The big brained centrists like no deal brexit now

https://twitter.com/IanDunt/status/1303006536256675842?s=19

# ? Sep 8, 2020 10:20

Jose: Jul 24, 2007; Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

https://twitter.com/jewdas/status/1303264524838068224?s=19

# ? Sep 8, 2020 10:33

Gonzo McFee: Jun 19, 2010

Lol theyre all such blatant hypocrites but it doesn't matter because the only people who will call them out are twitter users called @socialistwoshi

# ? Sep 8, 2020 10:38

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

You can see where vanguardists get the idea from.

# ? Sep 8, 2020 10:39

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# ? May 23, 2024 23:17

justcola: May 22, 2004; La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Jose posted:

The big brained centrists like no deal brexit now

https://twitter.com/IanDunt/status/1303006536256675842?s=19

centrist based accelerationism in order to get a leader in who agrees with everything the government are doing anyway. Don't know if my brain is big enough for that kind of 4D chess.

Chair chat:

As I am working from home a lot more now, where is a good place to get a decent chair? A dining room chair with a cushion on it isn't that great - and I thought with all these businesses not using their offices if there was a good place to pick up second hand furniture that has coagulated years of slime all over (or maybe a new chair come to think of it)

Also - is there a double-size chair or something I can use with two seats? My cat likes to sit next to me and feel this would save on sitting on the keyboard or directly behind me.

e: the cat, not myself sitting on the keyboard

# ? Sep 8, 2020 10:40

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