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OBAMA BIN LinkedIn posted:html webpages that defines xml namespaces are funny also I forgot to quote this
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Jan 18, 2013 19:11
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OBAMA BIN LinkedIn posted:could be worse, could be 8 pages of sulk. oh wai... nice
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Jan 18, 2013 19:11
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Shaggar posted:if ur consuming a 3rd party api that doesn't do xml right its probably because they're a fad/p-langer and they cant generate proper xml anyways. nope. usually java or c#, often a soap wrapper around a terminal interface
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Jan 18, 2013 19:12
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gucci void main posted:literally two pages about xml two pages TWO PAGES cant f***ing believe this
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Jan 18, 2013 19:12
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tef posted:nope. yeah but its the underlying shitfest from the terminal that the problem, not the soap in the java or c#. using shells for poo poo is worse than p-langs.
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Jan 18, 2013 19:13
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OBAMA BIN LinkedIn posted:html webpages that defines xml namespaces are funny i've never heard of xhtml either
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Jan 18, 2013 19:17
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i've heard of it but it's not html
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Jan 18, 2013 19:18
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kinda like how i've heard of you but not because you're a good poster
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Jan 18, 2013 19:18
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tell me more about my posting
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Jan 18, 2013 19:20
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OBAMA BIN LinkedIn posted:could be worse, could be 8 pages of sulk. oh wai... this thread is ~10% me posting
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Jan 18, 2013 19:21
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hm im sure html supports xml namespaces????? cos you know, xhtml?? they are the same things right??
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Jan 18, 2013 19:21
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post post post
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Jan 18, 2013 19:22
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the web would be 1000x better if only xhtml existed.
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Jan 18, 2013 19:23
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tef posted:this thread is ~10% me posting this thread is only alive because of you, tbc and shaggar.
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Jan 18, 2013 19:24
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Shaggar posted:the web would be 1000x better if only xhtml existed. What a shame too, when is xhtml 5 comming out?
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Jan 18, 2013 19:27
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Shaggar posted:the web would be 1000x better if only xhtml existed. sperglords would complains about stupid poo poo and say that xhtml is contradictory, for example code:
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Jan 18, 2013 19:28
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Shaggar posted:the web would be 1000x better if only xhtml existed. occasionally i believe this it's usually after dealing with some bullshit scraping or some bullshit forum software that is broken beyond comprehension for unexplained reasons
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Jan 18, 2013 19:28
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tef posted:post post post 
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Jan 18, 2013 19:30
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WHOIS John Galt posted:occasionally i believe this it seems not making GBS threads yourself at the first bump in the document is an advantage for html
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Jan 18, 2013 19:34
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the software I work on uses json to send data to an ios app and xml for interacting with old systems we don't have control over and they both work okay I guess ???  We have never had any problems with json itself and I have only had problems with xml because I didn't know what I was doing at first
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Jan 18, 2013 19:35
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OBAMA BIN LinkedIn posted:idk what zombywuf is talking about
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Jan 18, 2013 19:46
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tef posted:it seems not making GBS threads yourself at the first bump in the document is an advantage for html ya why have parsable documents when u can just limp thru. humans are the only ones reading it so it doesn't matter if its off.
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Jan 18, 2013 19:55
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THE BING CODING CHALLENGE
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Jan 18, 2013 19:58
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Shaggar posted:ya why have parsable documents when u can just limp thru. humans are the only ones reading it so it doesn't matter if its off. this unironically
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Jan 18, 2013 20:19
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Shaggar posted:ya why have parsable documents when u can just limp thru. humans are the only ones reading it so it doesn't matter if its off. the victory of "good enough" over the asperger brigade continues
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Jan 18, 2013 20:24
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That's tempting to do for the $75 a day meal allowance. I'd have to meet Microsoft employees though.
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Jan 18, 2013 20:29
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Jan 18, 2013 21:02
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impeachable programming
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Jan 18, 2013 21:10
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Shaggar posted:soap is not http dependent so building http stuff into the protocol would be bad soap is mapped to http as if it were a socket. it's dumb. soap puts all the headers inside the message instead of outside. about as helpful as zipping an mp3 quote:you can hookup a test client to debug a soap service as long as the wsdl is published. this also needs to be fixed
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Jan 18, 2013 21:13
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tef posted:it seems not making GBS threads yourself at the first bump in the document is an advantage for html this sort of correctness versus worse-is-better is always gonna happen when humans need to store information in a digital system i just like the idea of webpage as API, and instead of just CSS and poo poo for client-side customization you could use xslt too
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Jan 18, 2013 21:28
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WHOIS John Galt posted:i just like the idea of webpage as API, and instead of just CSS and poo poo for client-side customization you could use xslt too http://research.microsoft.com/pubs/173709/submitted-nsdi13.pdf 
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Jan 18, 2013 21:48
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instead of cdns you should be uploading pages whenever you view them. torrent the web
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Jan 18, 2013 21:50
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wouldn't the web be great if we replaced html with applets, and css with xslt.
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Jan 18, 2013 21:52
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wouldn't it be great if my words were twisted around to mean something different every time some scottish rear end needed to be an incorrigible snark
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Jan 18, 2013 21:54
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i can confirm it is pretty great
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Jan 18, 2013 22:03
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that's cool. lets create a project to develop a hack to deal with the fact that javascript is a terrible language.
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Jan 18, 2013 22:04
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tef posted:soap is mapped to http as if it were a socket. it's dumb. soap puts all the headers inside the message instead of outside. that's because soap is not http only so it cannot rely on http features. wsdl publishing should deffo be a spec requirement, tho
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Jan 18, 2013 22:06
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ever done soap over something other than http? good fun
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Jan 18, 2013 22:07
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lol no of course not, but with something like wcf it would be ez cause it makes switching your transport bindings super duper simple.
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Jan 18, 2013 22:09
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tbh I would love to see an evolution of soap that fixes a lot of stuff, but its still the best we've got for now.
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