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RagnarokAngel posted:It can definitely drag in people with mental illness but i think that might be too narrow. Much like cults can pull people in who are in a bad place, lonely, isolated, etc. Because they offer answers, conspiracy theories offer a solution to why your life is poo poo and how at least being "in the know" offers some solace. They also prey on people lacking meaning or agency by giving them a purpose or a role in something big. Isolated, stuck at home and a scenario where you realistically can't change anything is a situation rife for being exploited. Their usual people aren't there, and they're looking for something that makes them feel like they're doing *something*.
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:There was that Soviet military report that recommended that all American communists be killed if the USSR ever invaded the US, but that the right wing should be spared because they were highly suggestible and open to authoritarian rule. im extremely curious about this, if anyone has it please link
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Kanine posted:im extremely curious about this, if anyone has it please link I can’t find a link any more, but I originally learned about it in one of the USPOL threads a few years ago. Maybe someone else reading the thread knows what I was talking about?
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:I can’t find a link any more, but I originally learned about it in one of the USPOL threads a few years ago. Maybe someone else reading the thread knows what I was talking about? It would make sense to me. Weren't most US commies during the cold war Trotskyites? The soviets didn't exactly view that as compatible with soviet style socialism.
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wilderthanmild posted:It would make sense to me. Weren't most US commies during the cold war Trotskyites? The soviets didn't exactly view that as compatible with soviet style socialism. that's more britain than the usa
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That really sounds like wish fulfillment.
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RagnarokAngel posted:That really sounds like wish fulfillment. Yeah, it has a strong vibe of "No, we leftists are just too pure and correct to ever become totalitarian! Even when there were leftist totalitarian empires they wanted to wipe us out (but they totally would have accepted the right wingers because those right-wingers are soooo stupid!)"
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LanceHunter posted:Yeah, it has a strong vibe of "No, we leftists are just too pure and correct to ever become totalitarian! Even when there were leftist totalitarian empires they wanted to wipe us out (but they totally would have accepted the right wingers because those right-wingers are soooo stupid!)" It could also be the entirely pragmatic view that somebody willing to go against their own countries political mainstream is a potential pain in the bum for a new one imposed from outside. Maybe acknowledgment that the soviets had far more in common with fascists than actual communists.
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Remember when Elvis Presley was a big figure in conspiracy land? He was always still alive and hanging out with/being an extraterrestrial. Q has absorbed every other conspiracy, but I haven’t heard anything about Elvis from them, or anyone else in a long time. So, was Elvis part of the cabal or was he assassinated trying to warn us?
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Dec 22, 2020 22:39
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Elvis died fighting Draculas.
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I read that as "elves" and it didn't surprise me a bit that Q would believe in elves. Drow would fit into their worldview pretty well.
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Relevant Tangent posted:Elvis died fighting Draculas.
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Everyone knows Elvis is alive and well in the Bermuda Triangle, and that's why so many ships go disappearing there. Elvis needs boats.
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Twelve by Pies posted:Everyone knows Elvis is alive and well in the Bermuda Triangle, and that's why so many ships go disappearing there. Elvis Elvis Elvis Elvis needs boats!
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90s Cringe Rock posted:Wasn't it a mummy? Correct
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Spuckuk posted:Elvis Elvis Elvis Elvis needs boats! The sailing Elvis. Captain Elvis. Commodore Elvis it is!
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Hardcore Elvis fans have slowly died out, so I'm not surprised he hasn't been coopted. I expect that the real Paul McCartney (turn me on dead man...) will show up and help bring the storm, though.
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:I can’t find a link any more, but I originally learned about it in one of the USPOL threads a few years ago. Maybe someone else reading the thread knows what I was talking about? There’s a 1984 book called “What to do When the Russians Come” which claims to depict life in Soviet occupied America. It has a section listing how various groups would supposedly fare and includes quote:Communist quote:John Birch Society Member quote:Trotskyite
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Dr Christmas posted:Remember when Elvis Presley was a big figure in conspiracy land? He was always still alive and hanging out with/being an extraterrestrial. Q has absorbed every other conspiracy, but I haven’t heard anything about Elvis from them, or anyone else in a long time. Elvis Presley has been working as a cab driver in Berlin since 1977. He's 85 now, so he's probably retired. On the other hand, Elvis Costello is personally responsible for rigging the Domions voting machines, working for the real NWO leader, HRMQE2 
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That rocks and I love it.
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Not the punchline I expected, but drat did it hit.
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Eric Cantonese posted:Is the base disguised as a mall and built around a dimensional portal? Just chiming in here to say, I understand your reference and I admire it. Time to get off the soy sauce tho
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Completely unexpected and loving fantastic.
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pseudanonymous posted:
How do these lunatics read this poo poo? Like seriously, all this conspiracy insane poo poo is so hard for the eye to follow anything Wouldn't you want people to join your cause and see the truth?
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I think it's just like an appealing metaphor for their perception of the world. It looks complex and comprehensive but it's still nice and orderly.
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I see a cat face in the thumbnail. Did I crack the code?
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The Tesla coil, derivatives of which power many X-ray machines and linacs for external beam radiotherapy, is a suppressed medical technology.
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Guavanaut posted:The Tesla coil, derivatives of which power many X-ray machines and linacs for external beam radiotherapy, is a suppressed medical technology. Theres a real cult of personality around Tesla due to him often getting overshadowed by Edison. Some of it is warranted but a lot of it basically treats him as a god whos ideas were too powerful to be released to the public.
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Yeah it really goes off the rails somewhere past your average Electrical Engineer/Tesla coil hobbyist "Tesla was a genius and his ideas transformed our understanding of resonance and contributed enormously to modern electronic high voltage high energy power supplies and it's a disgrace how he was treated, went a bit weird towards the end though" and towards the Qbrain "Tesla was a genius and invented free energy and a death ray and spoke to aliens on Mars and that's why the world powers ridiculed him and hid his patents inside child tunnels."
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UGh I can never work out how to get to Picadilly Circus
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Under the current UK Covid guidelines I think you just follow the 'death' one. (Which I notice leads to inheritance tax and organ donation on the 'bad' path, and reincarnation and return to source on the 'good' path lol.)
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David Bowie played Tesla in the Prestige, which is a good movie.
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Tesla was no Einstein. In fact, he didn't even understand special relativity, much less general relativity (and railed against it.) He was the consummate tinkerer, but his understanding of the underlying theory was always lacking. I know it's easy to root for the underdog, but if anything he and Edison deserve about equal credit for what was accomplished. They each would have easily had the other's ideas. Or some contemporary would have quickly figured it out.
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His understanding of polyphase induction motors deserves credit as something that probably wouldn't have immediately come out of the others, as does Edison's understanding of electrical relays for the "Edison didn't invent anything" crowd. Also Joseph Swan and Lewis Latimer existed but don't get the Tesla weirdos.
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I'm not sure if it's the genesis of the Tesla-as-suppressed-genius myth but there was an almost certainly apocryphal story floating around in the seventies, and probably before, that said that Tesla cracked wireless power transmission and when he demonstrated it to George Westinghouse his first question was "And how do we meter this?" which is a pretty reasonable question in a capitalist framework. It's not a small jump from there to "Westinghouse cut Tesla's funding because of this" and then "Tesla had actually invented free energy". That there was a mysterious fire at his lab at the time and from that point on Tesla didn't really actually do anything that worked or was practical only adds fuel to the conspiracies.
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It's a very freeman-on-the-land type worldview, because the obvious answer is "you mandate a meter on the receiver, and fine people for loving about with it while accepting a percentage of losses, same as we do with wired power." Tesla's planned receivers were large enough that it's hardly as if you wouldn't be able to spot one being erected. But yeah to explain that away without a cohesive view of society you eventually end up at Tesla free energy resonant Earth fields conspiracies.
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Ppl also just like tesla bc to many, massive tesla coils are like a cool looking alternate history thing, hth
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