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DarkMalfunction posted:Seriously though, what's the deal with IP rights of non-canon yet licenced-worked ships? Does CBS ultimately own the rights to ship designs as the licence holders, or does it stay with the creator? iirc the Vesta was only featured in the licensed Destiny and susbsequent series (Full Circle etc.) novels and never onscreen, yet that made it into the game. In any case, these shared rights issues are why you'll almost certainly never see ships and stuff from other games or media in STO (it would require a license from a third part), why you'll never see a T6 connie (STO's license had a limited number of TOS appearances allowed in it and more would require a renegotiated license from Paramount), and why we'll likely not see T6 Vesta (since it would require a new/expanded license from Rademaker.) Aleth posted:Well, it's not a T6 connie but it is going to be a loving disaster: 
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Assuming it's a full carrier, I kind of like Omega. Sigma would be all right for a smaller ship but it'd look like a blimp if it was "big".
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Sep 24, 2015 05:49
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Yeah, the lack of windows and other details to get across the scale of them isn't helping much either. Seriously though what the gently caress is with those nacelles. You can have four of them Cryptic, fine, but at least make them symmetrical. 
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Sep 24, 2015 05:56
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Asimo posted:In general: if it's movie/TV stuff, it's owned jointly by CBS, Paramount, or both. If it's from a licensed production like a novel or a game then it's generally owned by both CBS/Paramount and whoever created the media in question. You'll never see stuff from other Trek games in STO for this reason, since Cryptic would have to negotiate with some other company as well as their ongoing license with CBS. The Vesta itself is a really weird outlier, since they went out of their way to get a license from Rademaker for it too, and gently caress if I know why (maybe Geko had a hard-on for it like the Excelsior?). What's really unfortunate is that they don't have close ties with Abrams. If they did they might have been able to swing some star wars stuff too, for maximum
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Tunicate posted:What's really unfortunate is that they don't have close ties with Abrams. I would love to use a star destroyer to take down federation ships, and just imagine the argument it would cause.
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Sep 24, 2015 06:48
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It's called the Bastion cruiser with Romulan plasma git gud.
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Sep 24, 2015 07:05
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Maybe, but you'd have to do a mod though, for Empire at War voiceovers(At least) for powers. It just wouldn't be the same without "FIRE FOR MAXIMUM EFFECT!" for your Power to Weapons and so on.
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I must be the only person who likes the Gamma fed carrier concept  Doesn't matter what it looks like in the end if the BoFF layout is still poo poo. Let's hope it's not another Atrox or Obelisk carrier.
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Sep 24, 2015 08:01
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It will be... an Atroxity 
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Sep 24, 2015 08:20
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God, imagine if they let us name it. The Xternity class Carrier features a commander engineering station, two lieutenant commander engineering/command stations and an ensign universal station...
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SKY COQ posted:God, imagine if they let us name it. Wow, so wrong. The Xtern1ty class carrier features all science seats because Xtern1ty is the first scientific community. Learn your Xean facts
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Sep 24, 2015 10:06
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Instead of a command chair there is a pillar with a stone carving of Xean facing the viewscreen, signifying Xean being the pillar of the STO community.
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Morglon posted:Wow, so wrong. The Xtern1ty class carrier features all science seats because Xtern1ty is the first scientific community. Learn your Xean facts Um The First International Scientific Community Against Cybobullying you mean.
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Morglon posted:Wow, so wrong. The Xtern1ty class carrier features all science seats because Xtern1ty is the first scientific community. Learn your Xean facts All of them ensign level, however there are more of them.
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Axe-man posted:All of them ensign level, however there are more of them. A shitload of ensign slots and one commander but you can't use that one and have to leave it vacant because it's reserved for Xean alone.
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DancingShade posted:A shitload of ensign slots and one commander but you can't use that one and have to leave it vacant because it's reserved for Xean alone. I will pay cryptic a lot of money to make this happen. They need to integrate the option for people to pay money to name new things like on the SA forums. I miss STO sometimes.
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Asimo posted:The Vesta itself is a really weird outlier, since they went out of their way to get a license from Rademaker for it too, and gently caress if I know why (maybe Geko had a hard-on for it like the Excelsior?). The Vesta design is not owned by CBS, that is why it took so long to get it in. I'm trying to find out how Radmaker's ship became the face of the Vesta. I I'm pretty sure the Vesta appeared first in the books before they even had a design. I think CBS licensed the design because they liked it. Also the Vesta for STO had been requested by fans for a while. The Luna design is owned by CBS, it was one of the conditions of winning the design contest. I think CBS technically owns the design of the Odyssey as well. First round of Voting is up http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/9564953 Alpha is winning on the forums by 15%. I'm not going to bother counting the tweets/Facebook comments Tuskin38 fucked around with this message at 21:47 on Sep 24, 2015 |
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Sep 24, 2015 21:34
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Apparently Xean was very rude to one of the mods of Channel XTERN1TY and the mod had enough of xean's abusiveness. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_DioKmzJNk Rip Channel XTERN1TY ETA: a video of xean telling the guy he was abusing that "silence = consent" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXXIuxZ0ZW4 ETA2: annnnd the pastebin http://pastebin.com/8EzTzvpQ hakimashou fucked around with this message at 04:03 on Sep 25, 2015 |
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More Xean news, apparently he has gone on the offensive, posting a thread both on Reddit and the STO forums. STO link: http://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline/#/discussion/1204410/psa-alert-cyberbullying-and-abuse-of-sto Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/sto/comments/3mat9o/cyberbullying_and_abuse_of_sto/ He is going full-on batshit right now.
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What dictates how many skills a Boff can have active? All my dudes are equal rank (centurion) but 1 guy can have active skills from Ensign, Lt and Lt Comm. Another 2 can pull from Ensign and Lt and the last lovely one (which I want to dump) can only pull from Ensign. Not really sure what's going on.
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Tai posted:What dictates how many skills a Boff can have active? All my dudes are equal rank (centurion) but 1 guy can have active skills from Ensign, Lt and Lt Comm. Another 2 can pull from Ensign and Lt and the last lovely one (which I want to dump) can only pull from Ensign. Not really sure what's going on. In space, the ship you've slotted them into has set ability levels per boff slot. On the ground, everyone should have four.
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MikeJF posted:In space, the ship you've slotted them into has set ability levels per boff slot. On the ground, everyone should have four. Anyway to increase this or just need to buy a better ship later on.
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hakimashou posted:Apparently Xean was very rude to one of the mods of Channel XTERN1TY and the mod had enough of xean's abusiveness. It is quite disturbing watching a future serial rapist get to work on his manifesto.
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Sep 25, 2015 07:08
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That was a lot of words.
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loving Xean is on full meltdown mode and trying to convince the world that we did it. Spoiler to pubbies reading this, we didn't do this or we'd be bragging about it in here. I do think we should send that admin a lockbox ship though.
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Tai posted:Anyway to increase this or just need to buy a better ship later on. The bolded. Bridge layout basically defines a ship. 'Better' is relative, of course.
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I'm pretty sure that the BoB director noted in Xean's reddit link defected to Goonswarm because folks at the pointy end of BoB were acting like utter dicks. So... Xean is aware of the history but is doing everything in his power to re-enact it?
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Tacticalrook is a good dude, i don't think he's a goon but he's been a buddy on sto for a long time. He sidled up to xean pretty early on and has tried to be a mentor to him i guess. Side benefit is he passed along lots of stories about xean's antics.
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So either xean or a sane person who is a reddit mod removed xean's insane rant. Here it is: This to inform our members and STO Administrators that tonight, Thursday, September 24, at 9:37 PM eastern, an attack was carried out upon our channel XTERN1TY by members of Something Awful and the Nerds of Prey/Starfleet Dental group. This attack kicked all non-administrative members of our channel, over 750 members. This happened after I revealed to the perpetrator, a trusted member of our group; I knew he was playing double sides. As there would be no proof of this unless they made their move; I let the spy do what they wanted all along to prove beyond any doubt their true intent. Though the saboteur was a longtime member of our channel, treated as a trusted friend and granted limited administrator privileges, he was never truly on our side and was only waiting for an opportunity to stab us in the back. I have our channel members on my friends list and will be sending out invites to those kicked tomorrow with the assistance of our allied fleet leaders and loyal administrators. No fleet members have been kicked in our fleets or any of our allies, this only affected our channel. This is not a simple XTERN1TY vs Dental issue and has not been for a while as we are not the only targets of their attacks. This is a Something Awful vs STO issue and must be addressed. Even if you do not want any part of this, you will be affected by the far reaching consequences of this group's background activities on STO, if you are not already. Please read the following overview for further insight. Pertinent background info on the conflict by bully-troll groups led by SA groups SW/NoP/SFD/T'D: In our prior encounter with NoP/Dental, as some recall from Druk's forum thread, we last foiled an attempt at sabotage like they had used successfully on Eve: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/02/05/internet-spaceships-super-drama/ By luring their spies into the open through the use of scripted fleet mails, we prevented that part of their plan, but what they've been after all along is to break apart our entire group, including channel; as they have now proven. http://i.imgur.com/TbE8W7w.png For the past 2 years we have been under almost constant attack by these groups of bully-trolls because of our firm stand against their harmful acts (which has nothing to do with disco balls or any of the petty excuses they give to mask the real issue) - despite repeated requests to be left alone and appeals to administrators of STO, which have been largely ignored. Aside from in-game and forum smear and shaming campaigns, my friends have been witness and subjected to cyberbullying and especially psycho-bullying off-game by SA members especially psycho-bullying. Psycho-bullying is what I call the mind-games they play on people, e.g, group bullying a target while pretending to others to be doing something benign, even beneficial. SA members regularly use the game and internet as a platform to perform acts of intentional malice. This kicking comes the day after we uncovered solid evidence of something I had already realized - that members of NoP-Dental were abusing game dynamics to cause harm to others, examples of which include: Deliberately abusing the auto-silence feature by spam group reporting a target of intimidation until they receive a mute in-game, accessing server side areas of STO to find ip addresses of targets, using STO to compile personal information of players in their Shutup Wesley wiki and they approach targeted female (possibly underage) players, asking for explicit photographs and encounters. Those who speak out are routinely threatened and harassed into silence, to such an extent they are forced to leave STO. One example of this regular game abuse is their secret joining of a private channels without being invited to spy on conversations using backdoor tricks. These are tricks they claim to know because of close relationship with Developers. Ultimately, though SA's groups must be held accountable for their actions; it is impossible to negate Company involvement. Posts like SFD Visits Cryptic Studios are used by SFD to intimidate players and keep them quiet. Though we have not recorded any incidents of Devs actually participating in malicious activity of SA groups, workers of Cryptic have supported SA/NoP/SFD and participated in their threads, lending credence to NoP-Dental's stance that they are supported by devs. This poses a conflict of interest both logically and legally. Public Petition: I ask all concerned and responsible players to join us in an open call for a full investigation of the SA/NoP/SFD groups, their activities and the connections they have with workers of Cryptic. Your support is crucial to override the overwhelming brainwashing this group is doing to people in game to mask their own ill activities. Regardless what you think of me or our group, nothing gives NoP/Dental the authority to use STO as a platform to abuse to the extent they take it, even if they have been allowed the ability to do so. While they attempt to silence us by saying it's just a game so they can continue without facing punishment, what they are involved in doing is no game to those they attack, but brings about consequences and potential for real world harm. I have seen suicide threats posted by people who have been harassed by this group and have intervened on multiple occasions on behalf of other players. I will not keep silent on SA's abuse of this game and I encourage those who understand what I'm talking about to speak out with me. If you wish to discuss this issue, feel free to contact me here
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"This poses a conflict of interest both logically and legally." lol. i don't understand, this is a bideo james.
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This was a long time coming but we are so close to a news story about Xean being found in his apartment with a bathtub full of fecal lasagna.
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DonDoodles posted:More Xean news, apparently he has gone on the offensive, posting a thread both on Reddit and the STO forums. Xean already deleted his Reddit account because even Reddit wouldn't accept him. Also thanks for capturing his deleted OP.
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Sep 25, 2015 10:24
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Oh Xean, just when things were getting dull you go and do this.
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Sep 25, 2015 11:04
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New character name "PsychoBully"
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Warning, this link has Xean's personal information as that's all this wiki is for, he said so himself.
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Defiance Industries posted:This was a long time coming but we are so close to a news story about Xean being found in his apartment with a bathtub full of fecal lasagna. We should probably lay off before this turns into another Elliot Rodger.
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Unguided posted:We should probably lay off before this turns into another Elliot Rodger. Most of the poo poo he's all crazy about only exists in his head as it is, I doubt our actions or inaction matter all that much.
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In Xean's defence, he did just discover that his wife is a goon and only only married him as a SFD PSYOPS instrument. That sort of thing would make anyone jumpy. Release of OPERATION TANGERINE OPSEC authorization 27b/4
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Not content with spamming the xean thread, our drunk-high friend made another thread too with more of his hardon for nabreeki. http://forum.arcgames.com/startrekonline/discussion/1204420/people-pretending-to-be-someone-else-offline#latest I looked at his post history and he made 2 threads in March to passive-aggressive bitch about the Leonard Nimoy memorial.
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Thread just got nuked, Xean is banned.  Trendy posted:Alright. I'm instabanning people now. I'm going to comb through the thread when I get in. This is not alright. You do NOT post inflammatory naming and shaming like this, nor should anyone feed the flames in an already heated trolling thread. Because aotc is lazy:  Goodnight, sweet prince. Aleth fucked around with this message at 15:00 on Sep 25, 2015 |
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