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Xenothral posted:Wormholes can be pretty excellent as well! But I think besides that null does have the best space rocks. With Citadels getting all the new refining boosting upgrades doing industry in holes is going to be a lot simpler and easier since you will be able to refine and compress a lot easier.
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Foehammer007 posted:hey did you guys already leave SC?? yeah we effectively did, I think we drop alliance today.
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Venom Snake posted:With Citadels getting all the new refining boosting upgrades doing industry in holes is going to be a lot simpler and easier since you will be able to refine and compress a lot easier. blaaky won't kill himself now yay
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Venom Snake posted:With Citadels getting all the new refining boosting upgrades doing industry in holes is going to be a lot simpler and easier since you will be able to refine and compress a lot easier. Oh for sure. I didn't even think about that!
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Foehammer007 posted:blaaky won't kill himself now yay me and him are currently attempt to figure out how to fix everything since dod left to get smokes and has yet to return
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Apr 25, 2016 20:31
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Kimsemus posted:this is different from nullsec how lowsec is better than null but compared to hisec is much riskier and requires a higher level of attention probably the best isk-faucet in game is L5 missions, and I can't see CCP not-nerfing them now that the secret on how to make around 1bil/hour is out
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Apr 25, 2016 20:32
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yo xutech whats up with kugu coming back, any timeframe?
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Apr 25, 2016 20:34
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CainFortea posted:Most cultures have racist euphemisms. A Chinese derogatory term for Koreans translates to "Korean corncob". Similarly the English viewed the Welsh as untrustworthy and inferior, from which we get the term "welching" as in "welch on the deal" while in Scotland you can, in polite company, use the term "annoying Welsh shitehead" without anyone really giving a second thought as to whether it is in some way a racist throwback.
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Landsknecht posted:lowsec is better than null but compared to hisec is much riskier and requires a higher level of attention L5 missions are not an ISK faucet at all. They're an ISK sink.
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So, apparently CCP security dropped two big bombs in their roundtable talks at fanfest: http://nosygamer.blogspot.com/2016/04/bobmon-team-security-and-pandoras-box.html quote:CCP Bugartist cut right to the chase and pointed out that the incident Bobmon really addressed with his question involved the twelve I WANT ISK bankers banned for illicit RMT activity in late December/early January. Addressing the accusation that the banning of the bankers involved an inadequate investigation, CCP Bugartist revealed that two members of his staff looked into the matter before any bans occurred. The head of security also revealed that the activities the twelve engaged in were serious and if he had his way, they would still be banned. Furthermore, if any of the returned bankers stepped out of line in any way, he would receive a permanent ban. So, uh, that's sure a thing. And i mean, I can't keep my bloggers straight but I'm pretty sure nosygamer loathes us so i doubt this is wrong, anyone have a video of that presentation?
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Not sure Nosy hates Goons, TMC got permission to syndicate his blog onto the site for a while. Even if he didn't like Goons, he's got more loathing for hackers/RMTers than anything else so I don't think he's making things up. Also it was a Rountable so it wasn't broadcasted. At best you'll need people to post a soundcloud recording or something.
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evilweasel posted:So, apparently CCP security dropped two big bombs in their roundtable talks at fanfest: the fact that a gambling webapp is the biggest strategic advantage in eve is just sad at this point i get that ccp is all about "emergent gameplay" but really there's not a lot that can justify the current implementation
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LemonDrizzle posted:L5 missions are not an ISK faucet at all. They're an ISK sink. Right, they are a LP faucet. 
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oh yeah also what's up with compulsive eve gamblers? anyone have any stories/names? I know in many jurisdictions there are voluntary self exclusion programs, I wonder if CCP has ever thought they had a responsibility to players cause I bet lots of people dump a lot into plex and ruin their lives
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LemonDrizzle posted:L5 missions are not an ISK faucet at all. They're an ISK sink. you basically make enough isk to cover the inputs, and the lp is insane for gettting money im excited for cheap faction ammo though
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Landsknecht posted:oh yeah also what's up with compulsive eve gamblers? anyone have any stories/names? There was one goon who got banned after he used all his isk on IWI, then borrowed isk, then spent all his income on plex for isk. I don't even think we banned him because of the loan, it was more an oh god get help never come back to this game. I forget his name though, I should dig it up.
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Unbanned over the objections of the investigators? CCP's Finance Department probably stepped in. Again.
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Gambling & bets between players existed long before Somer, EVE-Bet, & the rest though. I think CCP should be heavier handed with these sites and any EULA/TOS violations they make, same with people trying to paywall EVE videos or giveaways on Twitch for subscribers only etc. I don't really know what else CCP can do other than outright ban EVE gambling sites for letting people make money outside of gameplay, but even then that opens the door for other EVE related sites (eg. TMC, EN24, CZ) to that policy.
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evilweasel posted:There was one goon who got banned after he used all his isk on IWI, then borrowed isk, then spent all his income on plex for isk. I don't even think we banned him because of the loan, it was more an oh god get help never come back to this game. I forget his name though, I should dig it up. I thought he tried to get a real money fund started on Goonfleet for his "sick wife" and then just turned into PLEX to gamble on IWI?
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evilweasel posted:There was one goon who got banned after he used all his isk on IWI, then borrowed isk, then spent all his income on plex for isk. I don't even think we banned him because of the loan, it was more an oh god get help never come back to this game. I forget his name though, I should dig it up. ccp should seriously get a PR black eye because while there are many things you can get away with, taking advantage of problem gamblers shouldnt be one of them
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evilweasel posted:There was one goon who got banned after he used all his isk on IWI, then borrowed isk, then spent all his income on plex for isk. I don't even think we banned him because of the loan, it was more an oh god get help never come back to this game. I forget his name though, I should dig it up. Carusio. Our token fury.
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Unfunny Poster posted:I thought he tried to get a real money fund started on Goonfleet for his "sick wife" and then just turned into PLEX to gamble on IWI? he did both
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Landsknecht posted:
"Emergent gameplay" as long as your alliances don't get too big, and as long as you like caps.
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Unfunny Poster posted:Gambling & bets between players existed long before Somer, EVE-Bet, & the rest though. News site are generally a solid plus for the game. gambling only serves to generate more income for a single person than entire alliances.
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Apr 25, 2016 21:00
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CainFortea posted:Carusio. Our token fury. Token fury? Where are the other two? Or is Carusio just pretending to be a fury?
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Reverand maynard posted:News site are generally a solid plus for the game. gambling only serves to generate more income for a single person than entire alliances. gambling also preys upon highly addictive behavior and the hurt isn't spread across the entire population evenly but rather a small number of addicted people
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Unfunny Poster posted:I thought he tried to get a real money fund started on Goonfleet for his "sick wife" and then just turned into PLEX to gamble on IWI? apparently his wife actually was sick, but he probably gambled away the money from that gofundme as well - in all fairness though, it seems it was eve-bet rather than IWI. Still a hosed-up story.
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evilweasel posted:apparently his wife actually was sick, but he probably gambled away the money from that gofundme as well - in all fairness though, it seems it was eve-bet rather than IWI. Still a hosed-up story. Depression does some hosed up things to the brain.
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Reverand maynard posted:News site are generally a solid plus for the game. gambling only serves to generate more income for a single person than entire alliances. Sure, but my point was that if you say "this site isn't allowed because it generates money for people without actually playing the game" you open a can of worms that I'm pretty sure CCP don't feel like contending with. I was telling Chickenwing, some of the gambling sites give a very greasy vibe to them (I wouldn't call them RMTers without, you know actual proof) but I've never had issues with the EVE-Bet guys nor have I heard of any drama related to them doing something other than the AT match fixing payment thing but they made a notice ahead of time regarding that. It'll be interesting if CCP actually come out and say in-game ISK gambling sites are banned. I'd imagine they'll just take a heavier handed approach to them before that though. evilweasel posted:apparently his wife actually was sick, but he probably gambled away the money from that gofundme as well - in all fairness though, it seems it was eve-bet rather than IWI. Still a hosed-up story. That is beyond hosed. The dude should probably get himself help and I wouldn't be shocked if his wife left him over that.
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Eonwe posted:your posts make me happy
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Landsknecht posted:lowsec is better than null but compared to hisec is much riskier and requires a higher level of attention You're being really hyperbolic, or you've never actually done a proper L5 setup. To get anywhere near that isk/hour conversion you need to have: A carrier in every spawn system (with fits), one or more dedicated mission pullers (with standings), and have to know when/how to sink the LP so you don't waste your isk/LP on a market flood and have to time it when someone else isn't flooding that item. You'd be surprised how few people actually take the time to do this and then not give up after they lose 2-3 carriers in a week. Not to mention that most of the better L5 hubs are basically owned by entities that will push your poo poo in for fun. The idea that CCP would nerf L5s in the face of all this, whilst leaving hisec incursions untouched (the REAL isk faucet) is kind of laughable tbh. Though it is  so who knows.
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Venom Snake posted:me and him are currently attempt to figure out how to fix everything since dod left to get smokes and has yet to return You keep this stuff up and I'm going to fall in love with you.
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Dr. Pangloss posted:You keep this stuff up and I'm going to fall in love with you. stop drinking the k00laid
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I just found some Azure Plagioclase!!
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Unfunny Poster posted:
I'd swear the story was she was pretty much fading to gone and he was knee deep in some pretty bad depression. I guess having lost my fiance 11 years ago (holy poo poo I'm getting old) I can kinda understand how one can get super self destructive during periods like that. I've got nothing but sympathy for the guy. I hope he got help, I hope his wife got better, and I hope that the worst consequence of his depression and her sickness was getting removed from his space guild. I'm pretty sure that's not the case, but I still hope.
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Unfunny Poster posted:That is beyond hosed. The dude should probably get himself help and I wouldn't be shocked if his wife left him over that. I don't think she was the kind of sick that allows that.
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Yeah I think she was "Soon to be in hospice" and "Discuss end of life options" sick. I may also be pulling this out of my rear end.
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