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Supreme Allah
Oct 6, 2004

everybody relax, i'm here
Nap Ghost

triplexpac posted:

Thinking about it more, the PPV last night didn't really make me want to watch Raw tonight at all. There's nothing really coming out of the show that I feel like I need to tune in to follow up on.

I'll watch to see how they write off Bautista. Maybe he storms off in a hissy fit that's 90 percent shoot. "You PROMISED ME, HUNTER wargh"

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Strawberry Panda
Nov 4, 2007

Breakfast Defecting, Slow Dick Touching, Root Beer Barreling SwagVP

projecthalaxy posted:

We cannot forget that the worst part of Extreme Rules, more than Cena not understanding wrestling or the confusion around Swagger's elimination was having a commercial break midmatch on a preshow you were 100% guaranteed to have paid for, when you could not have bought the PPV any more than you were already assured to have done.

I think that's when they set up all the tables and ladders.

Orgophlax
Aug 26, 2002


triplexpac posted:

Thinking about it more, the PPV last night didn't really make me want to watch Raw tonight at all. There's nothing really coming out of the show that I feel like I need to tune in to follow up on.

All the Wyatts walking out of the cage was symbolic for their message getting out. So I'm sure that'll continue.

The Croc
Dec 19, 2004

A-well-a everybody's heard about the bird!

OH YEAH!



Do WWE still put the preview show up on youtube?

Bard Maddox
Feb 15, 2012

I'm just a sick guy, I'm really just a dirty guy.

Orgophlax posted:

The kid they used for the Cena/Wyatt finish looked really, really familiar.

It's John Cena... from the past???

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
<img alt="" border="0" src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-auron.jpg"/><br/>Drunken Robot Rage

So what's next for The Shield? I really hope they keep The Shield together, but let them branch off and do more singles matches as well.

No need to break up every awesome group just because.

Gaspar Lewis
Nov 30, 2007

by Lowtax
Adam Rose is debuting tonight. Watch RAW. Do it for Leo Kruger.

Daniel Bryan
May 23, 2006

GOAT

The Croc posted:

Do WWE still put the preview show up on youtube?

Nope. The "Kickoff" shows are Network exclusive.

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you

Auron posted:

So what's next for The Shield? I really hope they keep The Shield together, but let them branch off and do more singles matches as well.

No need to break up every awesome group just because.

Yeah we've had a ton of good trios matches out of them, I wouldn't mind seeing them branch out a bit again either. Stay buds, but maybe let Ambrose work some US title singles with Seth in his corner talking smack the entire time. Or let Reigns get some more singles match practice.

TheEggsBenedict
Jan 4, 2013

if i go crazy then
will you still
call me superman

Orgophlax posted:

The kid they used for the Cena/Wyatt finish looked really, really familiar.
I wonder if it's the same one from the anger management skit.

Daniel Bryan
May 23, 2006

GOAT
I'm interested in Raw just to see if they're really doing Bryan/Kane II at Payback, and what that means for Batista on his way out.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

Brock! Oh, man, I'm sorry about your...

...tooth?


Daniel Bryan posted:

Dave Meltzer says Batista is unhappy and leaving over money and not getting promised things.

"It says RIGHT THERE in my contract, black and white: Rey is supposed to be my friend!"

Commissar Ken
Dec 9, 2006

Children STILL love me, dammit!


Gonz posted:









This man is correct.

I am now a pretty big fan of this guy.

The_Rob posted:

He did? Reigns has been doin that without batista for the past year. All of batista's recent matches have been lay around until it's time for his spot. I honestly think he is the worst wrestler in wwe.

He had a pretty good match with Sheamus on Smackdown before last. Both put in some work.

oldpainless posted:

Have the Outlaws been on TV since WrestleMania?

No, don't think so but Road Dogg is a Road Agentt and Billy Gunn works at their Florida deal doesn't he?

paint dry
Feb 8, 2005
Didn't Billy Gunn get badly donked on the head at Mania?

Tonfa
Apr 8, 2008

I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.
:boom:
he knows...

Batista's terrible return led to Bryan as champion and probably killed Titus's push. Thank you Batista.

Blasmeister
Jan 15, 2012




2Time TRP Sack Race Champion

There is a kind of bittersweet irony that the botched Batista return probably was the last straw for punk walking and sparked a massive fan revolt in disgust at what we were being expected to cheer for, but then it accidentally led to a great Bryan/HHH story and subsequent Bryan title reign, and a really over and effective heel Batista. Shame he wants out, as he was by far the most loudly booed of all of Evolution last night.

flashy_mcflash
Feb 7, 2011

paint dry posted:

Didn't Billy Gunn get badly donked on the head at Mania?

I think he had a bit of bleeding (not internal) but he was fine after. IIRC they requested to work with Shield as a kind of blowoff to their in-ring run and are back to their regular jobs with Road Dogg in some kind of creative role and Mr rear end as a trainer.

Mechafunkzilla
Sep 11, 2006

If you want a vision of the future...

Blasmeister posted:

There is a kind of bittersweet irony that the botched Batista return probably was the last straw for punk walking and sparked a massive fan revolt in disgust at top what we were being expected to cheer for, but then it accidentally led to a great Bryan/HHH story and subsequent Bryan title reign, and a really over and effective heel Batista. Shame he wants out, as he was by far the most loudly booed of all of Evolution last night.

I liked the "Boo-tista" chant, it's a funny turn of phrase and the heel should be booed, but I thought the "you can't wrestle" chant was really disrespectful and unnecessary. Being called a bad or hateable guy is one thing (and what a heel is going for), being told you suck as an entertainer is another. I'm not too surprised if he doesn't want to subject himself to any more of that.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012




Daniel Bryan posted:

Dave Meltzer says Batista is unhappy and leaving over money and not getting promised things. Dave Meltzer says he may not be back because they're unhappy he won't work with Bryan at Payback.

Apparently it's over the "unsure of PPV bonus" situation that still nobody knows about months after the Network's launch, which was after they were supposed to have that loving meeting where it'd be explained

I know lol at Batista and all, but that is such a clusterfuck of a situation

Tonfa
Apr 8, 2008

I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.
:boom:
he knows...

Mechafunkzilla posted:

I liked the "Boo-tista" chant, it's a funny turn of phrase and the heel should be booed, but I thought the "you can't wrestle" chant was really disrespectful and unnecessary. Being called a bad or hateable guy is one thing (and what a heel is going for), being told you suck as an entertainer is another. I'm not too surprised if he doesn't want to subject himself to any more of that.

Orton cracking up at someone else being heckled for once made it completely worth it.

TheEggsBenedict
Jan 4, 2013

if i go crazy then
will you still
call me superman
Seeing Orton with Reign's face and Reigns with Orton's face is kind of dissapointing. Was expecting a lot more.

Shima Honnou
Dec 1, 2010

The Once And Future King Of Dicetroit

College Slice

Gavok posted:

"It says RIGHT THERE in my contract, black and white: Rey is supposed to be my friend!"

Well if there's one thing you would want in a contract, it's being friends with Rey. Especially now that they've invented cyberknees and can fix him.

Commissar Ken
Dec 9, 2006

Children STILL love me, dammit!



Batistose is loving terrifying. Like Brian Peppers level. Rorton looks like a pirate.

Daniel Bryan
May 23, 2006

GOAT
Guess who's in the middle of the "Best of the Great American Bash" DVD?

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
I hope that is going to have some stuff from the Bash tours otherwise it has no reason to exist.

Chewy Bitems
Dec 25, 2012

PIIIISSSSSSSS!!!!

Tonfa posted:

Batista's terrible return led to Bryan as champion and probably killed Titus's push. Thank you Batista.
What is this about? was the Titus/D Young split & feud caused by Titus' buddy Batista coming back?

Daniel Bryan
May 23, 2006

GOAT

Chewy Bitems posted:

What is this about? was the Titus/D Young split & feud caused by Titus' buddy Batista coming back?

Rumored because Batista and Titus are good friends. Could potentially be one of the things promised he's not getting. No one really knows.

UltimoDragonQuest
Oct 5, 2011



I know it will never happen but the locker room should stop asking about PPV bonuses and ask why they don't get a cut of TV, the company's primary source of income for the last 3-5 years.

Bard Maddox
Feb 15, 2012

I'm just a sick guy, I'm really just a dirty guy.
The best of the Great American Bash is Paul Bearer getting buried in concrete.

ChampRamp
Mar 29, 2010

:siren: SAVE_US.CHR :siren:

UltimoDragonQuest posted:

I know it will never happen but the locker room should stop asking about PPV bonuses and ask why they don't get a cut of TV, the company's primary source of income for the last 3-5 years.

They should also unionize, but it's not going to happen.

I will line up and buy that DVD if it has more backstage footage of Hawk, Animal, Steve Williams, Sting, and Lex Luger doing cocaine. I need more of that in my life.

crackage
Sep 20, 2004

by Ralp

Mechafunkzilla posted:

I liked the "Boo-tista" chant, it's a funny turn of phrase and the heel should be booed, but I thought the "you can't wrestle" chant was really disrespectful and unnecessary. Being called a bad or hateable guy is one thing (and what a heel is going for), being told you suck as an entertainer is another. I'm not too surprised if he doesn't want to subject himself to any more of that.

this is why I respect John Cena: Indifferent Means I'm Better Than You

paint dry
Feb 8, 2005
Hell yes wrestlers should loving unionise. If they all upped and joined a union what could Vince do about it? But they won't, because wrestlers are mostly right-wing morons themselves.

Supreme Allah
Oct 6, 2004

everybody relax, i'm here
Nap Ghost
Real question I haven't thought about -- How would wrestlers unionizing help me, the selfish fan?

El Generico
Feb 3, 2009

Birds revere you and consider you one of their own.

You are welcome in their holy places.

Supreme Allah posted:

Real question I haven't thought about -- How would wrestlers unionizing help me, the selfish fan?

Guys having time off means you'll be able to enjoy the guys you like for longer without getting as sick of them, for one.

flashy_mcflash
Feb 7, 2011

Supreme Allah posted:

Real question I haven't thought about -- How would wrestlers unionizing help me, the selfish fan?

Maybe you'd get to see some of your favourite performers not die as often or as soon.

Angular Landbury
Oct 24, 2011

MAGGLE.

paint dry posted:

Hell yes wrestlers should loving unionise. If they all upped and joined a union what could Vince do about it?

Fire everybody and hire scabs. Also: looking forward to seeing every indie collapse due to not being able to follow Union rules.

Unions are great and I support them but WWE is basically the only company that could conceivably afford to work with one and they aren't going to do it unless someone puts a gun to their heads.

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



Angular Landbury posted:

Fire everybody and hire scabs. Also: looking forward to seeing every indie collapse due to not being able to follow Union rules.

I assume it would be like film unions where you could choose to not be in it and still run things. You can still run a non-union set, and you can even get a union actor or whatever to be in your movie as long as you follow the rules for them. So I doubt that would happen.

Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.

paint dry posted:

Hell yes wrestlers should loving unionise. If they all upped and joined a union what could Vince do about it? But they won't, because wrestlers are mostly right-wing morons themselves.

It's a bit more complicated than that. Wrestling started as a carny business where everyone is trying to get themselves the most money by any means necessary (usually deception). It's very very difficult to believe some of the old hands who have wormed their way into management's ear won't help squash unionization, both to preserve their access and curry favor. Things have gotten less carny recently, but now wrestling's a monopoly, and there's nowhere to go if they're punished or intimidated.

I think Flair tried to start a union at one point, and that's the closest they've ever gotten. If Flair couldn't get it done in his prime... yikes.

Commissar Ken
Dec 9, 2006

Children STILL love me, dammit!


Don't know what the gently caress you guys are talking about. They tried to form a union in the late 90s. It just didn't work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMGSIJjpDgw

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Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat
THE DEMON KANE

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