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VikingSkull posted:Reminder that when she talked about clean jobs she led with "we're going to put coal miners out of business" lol I've heard Trump quote that line once and I thought he was making it up
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A Handed Missus posted:lol she even cracks a smile when she says it she is an uncaring robot completely out of touch with everything
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Naked Bear posted:I don't have an answer for that specific demographic, sorry. I just meant that as a broad statement which applies equally to both major parties. Aside from gerrymandering and Republican efforts at voter suppression the electoral system itself is a problem. During the primaries there was plenty of "gently caress you independents if you wanted to vote in the parties closed primaries why didn't you register for it, on time etc". This system lead to two of the most disliked candidates in history and made independents feel disenfranchised further suppressing interest in voting. The primary system with different states voting at different dates means that the early voters carry more weight so a late voting state carries meaningless votes. These are just a few things but I feel that anything that disenfranchises people or suppresses the vote or engagement is not a good thing and needs to be addressed.
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dubzee posted:In Trumplandia, China is actually on the "we should do something before it's too late" side of things. I just have no faith in the chinese actually doing something. They love to say they will and then just not do it. It makes them feel important. The Paris Accords is pretty much make a promise to reduce where you set your own goals, achieve your own goals, and if you don't, who cares. No penalties. Also you get to report your own progress. China is known for not having accurate reports come out of it to the point where the chinese reported GDP is so fake that people are measuring their GDP in other metrics like seaport cargo volume or area of floor space currently under construction. Hell you can just look at the imports to and from hong kong and see that yep, they just make poo poo up.  In the end the Paris Accords just don't do anything by itself and there is no reason to be a part of it. We can reduce our own emissions by our selves, which is what the Paris Accords says to do, and we can't enforce reduced emissions on other countries, again, what the Paris Accords goes by.
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I dunno I kind of like the idea of ignoring the UN's environmental fine program and instead dumping it all into conversation and EPA stuff. But I'm pretty loving out there in terms of what I actually want. I am the .3%
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We were never going to make it off this planet anyways. Atleast we can go all Fury Road if the nukes don't take us.
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Nov 10, 2016 01:41
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VikingSkull posted:she even cracks a smile when she says it Yeah it's amazingly tone deaf.
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Third World Reggin posted:
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VikingSkull posted:I'd rather go out Lucifer's Hammer style The communist forces of the Sierra Foothills mercilessly gunning down the
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Hindsight is 20/20 but I really wish it had been Bernie.
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I'm wondering how much dumb Christian poo poo we're going to have to put up with. Trump doesn't give a poo poo but Pence sure does, will we get more braindeads kept alive by the state on the yugest most luxurious gilded feeding tubes and coathanger abortions in America's freshly Muslim-Free alleys?
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Larry Parrish posted:The communist forces of the Sierra Foothills mercilessly gunning down the idc I'm the dude surfing the tsunami
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Nov 10, 2016 02:18
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Thankfully the vice president doesn't have much power unless trump dies so Pence's views should be a non issue.
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Third World Reggin posted:Thankfully the vice president doesn't have much power unless trump dies so Pence's views should be a non issue. Yeah look at Cheney.
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Third World Reggin posted:Thankfully the vice president doesn't have much power unless trump dies so Pence's views should be a non issue. trump promised kasich basically unlimited power while trump was off making america great again kasich was horrified by this and declined pence however took the deal
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Third World Reggin posted:Thankfully the vice president doesn't have much power unless trump dies so Pence's views should be a non issue. The Vice President has exactly as much power as the President allows him to have. On paper, the VP is useless except for succession. In practice, the VP can have a lot of sway. If the President wants to jet-set around the world being a cool guy and lets the Vice President pick everybody and organize policy that the President rubberstamps, then you get Dick Cheney. If the President wants to do everything and make the Vice President sit in Congress and patiently wait for a tie, you get LBJ as Kennedy's VP.
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:Yeah look at Cheney. Look if the guy is imbibed with the power of Khorne, Tzeentch, Nurgle, and Slaanesh...it's going to be a bit different.
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Potential BFF posted:I'm wondering how much dumb Christian poo poo we're going to have to put up with. Trump doesn't give a poo poo but Pence sure does, will we get more braindeads kept alive by the state on the yugest most luxurious gilded feeding tubes and coathanger abortions in America's freshly Muslim-Free alleys? Well Mike Pence is a VP so somewhere between none and very little because he is yugely unimportant Vasudus posted:trump promised kasich basically unlimited power while trump was off making america great again Source this please. "You have unlimited power to break ties in the Senate"
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http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/07/politics/john-kasich-donald-trump-election-2016/ Kasich told CNN's Jake Tapper that he didn't receive a call himself. But he said one of his aides confirmed to him a New York Times report last month saying Donald Trump Jr. tried to entice Kasich with a position as the most powerful vice president in history -- putting him in charge of all domestic and foreign policy -- was accurate. "That's what one of them has told me, yes," Kasich told Tapper in an interview aired Sunday on "State of the Union."
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Casimir Radon posted:Trouble is a lot of the working class whites won't listen. They can't have their coal mining job back because it's not economically or environmentally feasible. They think targeted stimulus, education, and other social programs are communism. And repealing gay marriage and the like are non-negotiable. They've had their brains scrambled and there's not much you can do for them. Try. Because I'm surrounded by these people and many of them are not as obstinate as half the people in this thread. Casimir Radon posted:The problem is that apparently the only way to reach them is to lie and tell them things are going back to the way they were before. We could help fix these areas by stimulating the economy and providing free job training but they've been conditioned into thinking it's communism. Nope. People around here have no faith because they have poo poo for education opportunities, less chance for government assistance because it's rural and white, and local jobs are sinking. The loving BAR closed in this town because people didn't have disposable income enough to keep it alive. Meanwhile Tesla is shipping in hundreds of workers for the gigafactory and wrecking the local cost of living because surprise surprise, bankrupt desert melon farmers don't make good high tech employees with rural high school education. But one side tells them "Sorry, you're hosed," while the other side says "We'll find a way to make it better." Whether you believe him or not, it's worth a loving shot because the alternative is voting for the people who openly poo poo on you. Edit: Ok, this branch of discussion was pretty much settled already. Godholio fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Nov 10, 2016 |
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MazelTovCocktail posted:Look if the guy is imbibed with the power of Khorne, Tzeentch, Nurgle, and Slaanesh...it's going to be a bit different. we're talking about the God-Emperor of Mankind now, though 
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Third World Reggin posted:Do people think trump, an egotistical man, would give up much power? Historically in his businesses he's been a delegation guy, not a micromanage guy
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I dunno about you guys but I've always enjoyed orchestra type music, from the classical to whatever they play on NPR these days. I found this one that's Super Mario RPG's Legend of the 7 Stars orchestra. This poo poo made me happy so if any of you are 30+ year old nerds and remember this game here you go and hopefully it cheers you up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQtZOIznCPc if not then SMDFTB fgt *no offense N4I*
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Vasudus posted:http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/07/politics/john-kasich-donald-trump-election-2016/ So ignoring the fact that this is essentially something Kasich heard from someone else, how is it proof positive that Trump was going to actually follow through on it? They didn't hammer out any deal. Mike Pence is a non-factor. The concerning thing is that All-Universe Retard Sarah Palin is being considered for a cabinet position 
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milk milk lemonade posted:So ignoring the fact that this is essentially something Kasich heard from someone else, how is it proof positive that Trump was going to actually follow through on it? They didn't hammer out any deal. You're more than welcome to not believe it, and hopefully it's not true! However that's about as strong of a confirmation that you would get from Kasich at that point in the race. Either way, I guess we'll find out in 70-odd days or so.
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I really do hope Trump's ego gets the best of him just so he can respond to the gentle whispers of "biblical marriage" and "repeal Roe vs. Wade" with "gently caress off." As for Palin, I guess it was foolish to hope we were finally rid of that stupid oval office.
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My only hope is that Trump is actually the centrist/democrat he appeared to be prior to deciding on running for office. That he looked at the political field after Obama, realized that his best shot is in 2016, and that he could either run and face a unified democratic party under Hillary or a clusterfuck of empty suits with red ties. Then he said whatever crazy poo poo he thought would get the votes. This is of course, likely 99% bullshit, but I can dream.
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Handsome Ralph posted:Proclick. When Trump got the nomination, I said that the only way he'll win is if liberals spend the next few months huffing each other's farts on social media and then not voting because they think Clinton can't lose. I'm glad that I was right all along. oh wait no i'm not
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Vasudus posted:My only hope is that Trump is actually the centrist/democrat he appeared to be prior to deciding on running for office. That he looked at the political field after Obama, realized that his best shot is in 2016, and that he could either run and face a unified democratic party under Hillary or a clusterfuck of empty suits with red ties. Then he said whatever crazy poo poo he thought would get the votes. I tell myself that the people elected to office have voters to answer to and I'm positive the GOP would like to hold their office. That being said, they have to see how chaotic poo poo got and they can't make too many drastic moves to placate an ever fickle voting base that could easily swing the other way. But this is me applying logic and rationale into a Trump-led United States of America so gently caress me right
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Fister Roboto posted:When Trump got the nomination, I said that the only way he'll win is if liberals spend the next few months huffing each other's farts on social media and then not voting because they think Clinton can't lose. I'm glad that I was right all along. Yeah, when Clinton announced she was running, I posted on twitter that video of Mr. Wolf from Pulp Fiction telling everyone to not start sucking each others dicks yet, they still had work to do.   holocaust bloopers posted:I tell myself that the people elected to office have voters to answer to and I'm positive the GOP would like to hold their office. That being said, they have to see how chaotic poo poo got and they can't make too many drastic moves to placate an ever fickle voting base that could easily swing the other way. This is what I'm telling myself in that even if/when the ACA is repealed, they will find a way to keep the preexisting condition clause around since removing it would dick over a big portion of their constituency. There is no loving way they get rid of that and easily hand wave it away. Also my girlfriends dad keeps saying he wants to get rid of the ACA and replace it with UHC. He also believes Trump is going to do this. 
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So apparently WV elected a democratic governor. As did NC.
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Handsome Ralph posted:This is what I'm telling myself in that even if/when the ACA is repealed, they will find a way to keep the preexisting condition clause around since removing it would dick over a big portion of their constituency. There is no loving way they get rid of that and easily hand wave it away. These people have happily voted for policies actively harmful to themselves for decades. What in the world makes you think theyre going to stop now.
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psydude posted:So apparently WV elected a democratic governor. As did NC. OH GOOD
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